PROOF: video gaming is not an addiction

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#1 savvon
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Thought I would post this since video game addiction seems to be a hot topic right now.

(Copied from the Associated Press from my local newspaper)

CHICAGO (AP) - The American Medical Association on Wednesday backed off calling excessive video-game playing a formal psychiatric addiction, saying instead that more research is needed.

A report prepared for the AMA's annual policy meeting had sought to strongly encourage that video-game addiction be included in a widely used diagnostic manual of psychiatric illnesses.

AMA delegates instead adopted a watered-down measure declaring that while overuse of video games and online games can be a problem for children and adults, calling it a formal addiction would be premature.

"There's no science to support it," said Dr. Stuart Gitlow, an addiction medicine specialist.

Despite a lack of scientific proof, Jacob Schulist, 14, of Hales Corners, Wis., says he's certain he was addicted to video games - and that the AMA's vote was misguided.

Until about two months ago, when he discovered a support group called On-Line Gamers Anonymous, Jacob said he played online fantasy video games for 10 hours straight some days.

He said his habit got so severe that he quit spending time with family and friends.

"My grades were horrible, I failed the entire first semester" this past school year because of excessive video-game playing, he said, adding, "It's like they're your life."

But delegates voted to have the AMA encourage more research on the issue, including seeking studies on what amount of video-game playing and other "screen time" is appropriate for children.

Under the new policy, the AMA also will send the revised video-game measure to the American Psychiatric Association, asking it to consider the full report in its diagnostic manual; the next edition is to be completed in 2012.

Dr. Louis Kraus, a psychiatric association spokesman, said the report will be a helpful resource.

The AMA's report says up to 90 percent of American youngsters play video games and that up to 15 percent of them - more than 5 million kids - might be addicted.

The report, prepared by the AMA's Council on Science and Public Health, also says "dependence-like behaviors are more likely in children who start playing video games at younger ages."

Internet role-playing games involving multiple players, which can suck kids into an online fantasy world, are the most problematic, the report says. That's the kind of game Jacob Schulist says hooked him.

Kraus, chief of child and adolescent psychiatry at Chicago's Rush Medical Center, said behavior that looks like addiction in video-game players may be a symptom of social anxiety, depression or another psychiatric problem.

He praised the AMA report for recommending more research.

"They're trying very hard not to make a premature diagnosis," Kraus said.
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#2 savvon
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Nobody wants to hear the facts anymore?

/sigh

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#3 Rattlesnake_8
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We're all to busy playing the games we are addicted too ;)
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#4 isDoooomed
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Nobody wants to hear the facts anymore?

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savvon

You do realize that the article is about the absence of said facts and therefore totally fails to deliver any "PROOF: video gaming is not an addiction" as promised in the topic title?

It talks about how they can't say for sure what it is due to not enough research done regarding this matter.

So, uh, regarding the article: Well, better do some research guys!

Discussed enough?

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#5 sircyrus
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Well they're not saying gaming isn't an addiction, just that there's no science to support them classifying it as one at this time.

Considering there's literally tens of thousands (probably hundreds of thousands) of individuals who would be close to that Wisconsin man's situation prior to him finding the support group I think that, assuming some studies are done on the subject, when the AMA comes back to the issue in a few years they'll classify it differently than they have now. Gaming certainly is addictive for many people.

People can become addicted to a wide variety of sources of entertainment, there's no reason to think gaming is somehow magically exempt. Considering that there have been numerous individuals who have ruined a marriage because they were unable to turn off the game, I think that's some strong evidence towards them having an addiction. There's gamers out there who's gaming habits have resulted in losing their spouse, family, job, they skip meals, skip showers, avoid social activities outside the house, and in a couple cases even died because they wouldn't get off the game.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6130643.html

A 28-year-old South Korean man who began a marathon online gaming session August 3 died just after 50 hours of nearly nonstop gaming, according to a Reuters report. Identified by authorities only by his surname of Lee, the man only left his online battle simulation games to go to the bathroom and to take short naps on a makeshift bed. Lee had apparently quit his job recently to play more games. The cause of death was presumed to be heart failure stemming from exhaustion. The event is sadly reminiscent of previous gaming marathon deaths in South Korea and Taiwan.

That's a pretty clear example of someone suffering from a gaming addiction.

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#6 Wannabe
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Gaming in itself is not an addiction, it's a way for people to relax and marvel in their home entertainment systems and the different worlds games envelop one in. However, it can be very deadly if you do become addicted to it, just like alcohol.

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#7 GeryGo  Moderator
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why would video gaming be addictive anyway? if i want to stop playing games i will - and i done that before - for 2 months :) well that's because i was bored of video gaming
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#8 blackdreamhunk
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We're all to busy playing the games we are addicted too ;) Rattlesnake_8
not really they going do more reserh it could bring up something else to. they want to be cernon that what they are doing is the rigth things. I beleave wow will get hit hard when they are done.

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#9 dnuggs40
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It's not an addiction. Many psychologist have already stated it is just a form of entertainment (like many others) that have the ability to suck people in with social, mental, and otherdisorders in. The actual problem and "addiction" (more like a obsession in my eyes), is in the individual, not the game itself.

There was a very strong movement by some parents to have video games looked at (and in a sense demonized) and a large psychiatric investigation has taken place. The problem, however, is that because the result was already predetermined (by some parents/politicians/lawyers/psychologist) the science behind it has been flaky.

"A report prepared for the AMA's annual policy meeting had sought to strongly encourage that video-game addiction be included in a widely used diagnostic manual of psychiatric illnesses."

As you can see, they had already determined video games were in fact addicting, yet they had very little scientific evidence. So now, after a few years of pushing this agenda with no results or proof, they have to back down.

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#10 whgresiak
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If you're addicted to video games you need to kill yourself
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#11 123monkey
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I don't think video gaming is an addiction, it's more like a hobbie :)
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#12 Cerza
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People can become addicted to anything. It just differs between each individual based on their characteristics and personal makeup.
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#13 Avenger1324
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It depends how you define an addiction:

If you do something almost every day of your life, 8+ hours straight, that takes you away from friends and family, often leaves you tired and demotivated after doing it with little sense of achievement - I would call that an addiction.

Fortunately medicalscience hasgiven a name to this condition- it's called WORK

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#14 Sleepy_Warrior
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Video gaming can be an addiction the same as anything else in the world..

This is not to say that everyone is going to become or is a addicted to video games.

But I assure you that you can become aaddicted I my self stopped going to school, lost contact with my friends and strained my family relationships because of video games.

Though over that stage in my life now be under no illusion that video games can not be a dangerous if you become too involved though the same can be said of almost everything.

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#15 sircyrus
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It's not an addiction. Many psychologist have already stated it is just a form of entertainment (like many others) that have the ability to suck people in with social, mental, and otherdisorders in. The actual problem and "addiction" (more like a obsession in my eyes), is in the individual, not the game itself.dnuggs40
That is addiction. Gambling itself isn't an addiction but we recognize that there is such a thing as a gambling addiction. It can become a mental disorder, the person didn't have it when they started. According to the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" published by the AMA, problemgamblers would be someone who meets at least 5 of these:

  1. Preoccupation. The subject has frequent thoughts about gambling experiences, whether past, future, or fantasy.
  2. Tolerance. As with drug tolerance, the subject requires larger or more frequent wagers to experience the same "rush".
  3. Withdrawal. Restlessness or irritability associated with attempts to cease or reduce gambling.
  4. Escape. The subject gambles to improve mood or escape problems.
  5. Chasing. The subject tries to win back gambling losses with more gambling.
  6. Lying. The subject tries to hide the extent of his or her gambling by lying to family, friends, or therapists.
  7. Loss of control. The person has unsuccessfully attempted to reduce gambling.
  8. Illegal acts. The person has broken the law in order to obtain gambling money or recover gambling losses. This may include acts of theft, embezzlement, fraud, forgery, or bad checks.
  9. Risked significant relationship. The person gambles despite risking or losing a relationship, job, or other significant opportunity.
  10. Bailout. The person turns to family, friends, or another third party for financial assistance as a result of gambling.
  11. Biological Bases. The person has a lack of norepinephrine.
    Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders

Preoccupation, withdrawal, escape, loss of control, risked significant relationships... that's 5 off the list right there that many gamers would suffer from. Just like gambling, I think someone could develop a mental disorder from excessive gaming (addiction).

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#16 BLaZe462
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Nobody wants to hear the facts anymore?

/sigh

savvon

There's no facts in here just a bunch of maybes

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#17 Solid-CELL
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I beg to differ....

Ever heard of Oblivion? Zelda? COUNTER STRIKE!?!?!?