q6600 bottleneck a 5850 or 5870?

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#1 ticktocktick201
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just wondering if i were to upgrade my graphics card, would a my Q6600 @ 2.7 ghz bottleneck either the 5850 or 5870?

thanks

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#2 rock_solid
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a q6600 isn't even close to bottlenecking anything
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#3 ticktocktick201
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excellent

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Even if you were to experience framerate slows in areas where there is loads of AI calculations needed for example, a further OC of the CPU would be a problem solver. But otherwise, go for it.
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#5 Daytona_178
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If you get a half-decent cooler for that Q6600 you should be able to get a good 3.2Ghz out of it easily!

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#6 Timbury
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Im getting the Radeon 5870 as well got my Q6600 @ 3.0GHz never had any issues with it being a bottlenecking problem.
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#7 Duckman5
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If you get a half-decent cooler for that Q6600 you should be able to get a good 3.2Ghz out of it easily!

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So I guess you don't have a halfway decent cooler then judging by your sig. :P
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#8 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

If you get a half-decent cooler for that Q6600 you should be able to get a good 3.2Ghz out of it easily!

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So I guess you don't have a halfway decent cooler then judging by your sig. :P

Well i have the Thermalright Ultra 120...yeah, its pretty good!
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#9 NamelessPlayer
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Heh, and I've heard some people say that a Q6600 would bottleneck such cards unless overclocked to 3.6 GHz, which isn't really feasible without really good cooling (or chilly ambient temps). I guess that means I won't really have to worry when Fermi/GT300 hits. (OTOH, having a P35 board means that I don't have as much bandwidth for the graphics cards, being PCIe 1.0 and all...will THAT pose a problem?)
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[QUOTE="NamelessPlayer"]Heh, and I've heard some people say that a Q6600 would bottleneck such cards unless overclocked to 3.6 GHz, which isn't really feasible without really good cooling (or chilly ambient temps). I guess that means I won't really have to worry when Fermi/GT300 hits. (OTOH, having a P35 board means that I don't have as much bandwidth for the graphics cards, being PCIe 1.0 and all...will THAT pose a problem?)

Actually i had a question read out on the PC Perspective podcast this week about this exact question....and they are SMART people. They reckon a Q6600 @ 3Ghz will be perfect for an ATI 5870.
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#11 UltimateGamer95
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just wondering if i were to upgrade my graphics card, would a my Q6600 @ 2.7 ghz bottleneck either the 5850 or 5870?

thanks

ticktocktick201
Yeah you'll be fine sir :)
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#12 Lach0121
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actually i doubt you will really be bottlenecking any single gpu in the near future, like many have said just overclock to get a little more performance.

so no i dont think it will bottleneck.

and the phenom II quads sure wont bottleneck.

so no worry on that. unless your trying to Xfire 58## cards..

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#13 ssaadd123
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just wondering if i were to upgrade my graphics card, would a my Q6600 @ 2.7 ghz bottleneck either the 5850 or 5870?

thanks

ticktocktick201

Yes anything running at 2.7 Ghz will bottleneck a 5870

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#14 faysal_ha
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[QUOTE="ssaadd123"]

[QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

just wondering if i were to upgrade my graphics card, would a my Q6600 @ 2.7 ghz bottleneck either the 5850 or 5870?

thanks

Yes anything running at 2.7 Ghz will bottleneck a 5870

what about C2D E7400 2.8 GHz running at 3.3GHz
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#15 sihunt
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[QUOTE="ssaadd123"]

[QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

just wondering if i were to upgrade my graphics card, would a my Q6600 @ 2.7 ghz bottleneck either the 5850 or 5870?

thanks

faysal_ha

Yes anything running at 2.7 Ghz will bottleneck a 5870

what about C2D E7400 2.8 GHz running at 3.3GHz

Hi You will be fine.

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#16 faysal_ha
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[QUOTE="sihunt"]

[QUOTE="faysal_ha"][QUOTE="ssaadd123"]Yes anything running at 2.7 Ghz will bottleneck a 5870

what about C2D E7400 2.8 GHz running at 3.3GHz

Hi You will be fine.

thanks im running it now with 4850 , just asking for the future
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#17 The_Dark_Night
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Can someone give an estimate of how many FPS I would achieve in games if I OC from 2.4Ghz to 3.0Ghz?

(I have an Intel Q6600 and am planning on buying the HD 5850.)

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#18 kunggustaf
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Can someone give an estimate of how many FPS I would achieve in games if I OC from 2.4Ghz to 3.0Ghz?

(I have an Intel Q6600 and am planning on buying the HD 5850.)

The_Dark_Night

With my old 8800 GTS 512 I got an increase of around 7 ~ 8 FPS when I OC my Q6600 from stock to 3.0 Ghz. Not sure if its gonna be more or less with a HD5850 though.

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#19 djdarkforces
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q6600 will not bottleneck that and is still good for a while yet with a nice o.c

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#20 GTR12
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[QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

just wondering if i were to upgrade my graphics card, would a my Q6600 @ 2.7 ghz bottleneck either the 5850 or 5870?

thanks

ssaadd123

Yes anything running at 2.7 Ghz will bottleneck a 5870

What??? Thats completly wrong, an I7 920 runs at 2.66, and judging by your logic that bottlenecks a 5870, yeh sure maybe *sarcasm*

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#21 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="ssaadd123"]

[QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

just wondering if i were to upgrade my graphics card, would a my Q6600 @ 2.7 ghz bottleneck either the 5850 or 5870?

thanks

Amith12

Yes anything running at 2.7 Ghz will bottleneck a 5870

What??? Thats completly wrong, an I7 920 runs at 2.66, and judging by your logic that bottlenecks a 5870, yeh sure maybe *sarcasm*

yeah i think the q6600 may start to bottleneck if your plan to xfire the 5870s, but not a single card.. no.

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#22 superclocked
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It will indeed bottleneck either card. As some others have mentioned, just get a decent cooler and overclock ;)
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#23 superclocked
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[QUOTE="faysal_ha"][QUOTE="ssaadd123"]

[QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

just wondering if i were to upgrade my graphics card, would a my Q6600 @ 2.7 ghz bottleneck either the 5850 or 5870?

thanks

Yes anything running at 2.7 Ghz will bottleneck a 5870

what about C2D E7400 2.8 GHz running at 3.3GHz

Yep. I saw a huge jump in my shader output when I overclocked my e8400 to 4.7GHz (SLI 512MB 8800GTS's)
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#24 scoots9
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It shouldn't. And inform your sig that I am not running FireFox.

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#25 rock_solid
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q6600 won't bottleneck it
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#27 CellAnimation
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Bottlenecking! It's like the most BS thing in PC gaming. We all have hard drives, there every system is bottlenecked let us all go back to DOS. I ran a GTX 295 on a Q6600, was it slower than running it on an i7? Of course! Did it run? It sure did, and it ran really well. People need to get over this bottlenecking BS, and just accept hey you want a 5970 with your Core 2 Duo? GO FOR IT!
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#28 CellAnimation
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Can someone give an estimate of how many FPS I would achieve in games if I OC from 2.4Ghz to 3.0Ghz?

(I have an Intel Q6600 and am planning on buying the HD 5850.)

The_Dark_Night
Anyone who gives you an answer is making it up. Like I said above I had a Q6600 with a GTX 295, when I overclocked my Q6600 some games had 0% frame rate increases, some went up by 10+. It all depends on if the game is CPU or GPU bound. What I can tell you is that overclocking a Q6600 to 3.0GHz is something you should do (at the very least) as the Q6600 loves to run faster than stock. :)
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seriously doubt it

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#30 ticktocktick201
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lol this thread was from a long time ago, i ended up getting my 5850, and pushed the overclock on my Q6600 from 2.7ghz to 3.0ghz.

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[QUOTE="CellAnimation"]Bottlenecking! It's like the most BS thing in PC gaming. We all have hard drives, there every system is bottlenecked let us all go back to DOS. I ran a GTX 295 on a Q6600, was it slower than running it on an i7? Of course! Did it run? It sure did, and it ran really well. People need to get over this bottlenecking BS, and just accept hey you want a 5970 with your Core 2 Duo? GO FOR IT!

Bottlenecking does happen with just about every system depending on the task (an app hogs CPU cycles but doesn't touch the GPU, a game needs GPU power but will get by on a relatively slow CPU, a different app does a lot of disk I/O and is held back by the hard drive), but like you, I DO think it's blown out of proportion most of the time. It's not like he's pairing that HD 5850 with a Pentium 4, or he somehow magically managed to pair Tri-SLI GTX 480s with an Intel 4004.

lol this thread was from a long time ago, i ended up getting my 5850, and pushed the overclock on my Q6600 from 2.7ghz to 3.0ghz.

ticktocktick201
How was the performance jump? I'm going to upgrade from the 8800 GT at some point, but I'm just not sure if anything currently out is worth it.
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#32 SinfulPotato
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You can under clock your Q6600 and not bottle neck it. I don't even think people know what bottle necking is.

The only bottleneck I have EVER seen so far with modern CPU's and GPU's is Multi-GPU systems where the CPU can not process data from both cards.

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#33 rock_solid
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bottlenecking is a real thing

most often it happens when you have a really good graphics card but your cpu sucks bad. or u have a great cpu, but ur graphics card sux bad. it's harder to tell what's bottlenecking ur system when ur cpu and gpu are close to a good pair for eachother.

a q6600 is still a very good cpu, especially when overclocked to 3ghz. if u get any slowdown with a 3ghz q6600, your graphics card is probably the bottleneck.

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#34 ticktocktick201
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[QUOTE="NamelessPlayer"][QUOTE="CellAnimation"]Bottlenecking! It's like the most BS thing in PC gaming. We all have hard drives, there every system is bottlenecked let us all go back to DOS. I ran a GTX 295 on a Q6600, was it slower than running it on an i7? Of course! Did it run? It sure did, and it ran really well. People need to get over this bottlenecking BS, and just accept hey you want a 5970 with your Core 2 Duo? GO FOR IT!

Bottlenecking does happen with just about every system depending on the task (an app hogs CPU cycles but doesn't touch the GPU, a game needs GPU power but will get by on a relatively slow CPU, a different app does a lot of disk I/O and is held back by the hard drive), but like you, I DO think it's blown out of proportion most of the time. It's not like he's pairing that HD 5850 with a Pentium 4, or he somehow magically managed to pair Tri-SLI GTX 480s with an Intel 4004.

lol this thread was from a long time ago, i ended up getting my 5850, and pushed the overclock on my Q6600 from 2.7ghz to 3.0ghz.

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How was the performance jump? I'm going to upgrade from the 8800 GT at some point, but I'm just not sure if anything currently out is worth it.

going from my 8800gt, it wasn't massive, but it was very noticeable. Im very happy with the 5850 now, i can pretty much max everything.
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#35 superclocked
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Yes, it WILL bottleneck. Let's end the debate once and for all. No matter how far I push my CPU, the shader output keeps getting higher.... Wolfdale @ 3GHz w/ SLI 800/1955/2140 512MB 8800GTS's.... 14,143 3DMark06 points Wolfdale @ 4.7GHz w/ SLI 806/2000/2200 512MB 8800GTS's.... 21,394 3DMark06 points Everyday tasks are noticeably sluggish as well...
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Q6600 Should not oBottleneck if you got the Last Stepping the G0 And Get it to 3.6Ghz Oc Stable with a Excellent Cooler Such as Scyth mugen II + Two 90cfm fan woudl be the closest to ur $$ but you can still get the thermalright 120 True Rev C : but According test Mugen II Is as Cold And Cost Less but is more ugly :P
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#37 risc-vs-cisc
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This thread is full of absolute nonsense and BS.Wow now I remember why I stopped coming here.

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#38 superclocked
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This thread is full of absolute nonsense and BS.Wow now I remember why I stopped coming here.

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Shader output w/ 3GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 13,904 3DMark Shader Points Shader output w/ 4.7GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 20,672 3DMark Shader Points
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#39 risc-vs-cisc
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[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]

This thread is full of absolute nonsense and BS.Wow now I remember why I stopped coming here.

superclocked

Shader output w/ 3GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 11,381 3DMark Shader Points Shader output w/ 4.7GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 20,672 3DMark Shader Points

You're first score is with one 8800.

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:D I was wondering if someone would find it without me trying to pick a fight with this guy nice find Risc-vs-cisc XD
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:D I was wondering if someone would find it without me trying to pick a fight with this guy nice find Risc-vs-cisc XDmarcthpro

I didn't even look at his score's at first,I could care less about 3Dmark.

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#42 superclocked
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:| BOTH tests were ran using BOTH cards
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#43 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]

This thread is full of absolute nonsense and BS.Wow now I remember why I stopped coming here.

risc-vs-cisc

Shader output w/ 3GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 13,904 3DMark Shader Points Shader output w/ 4.7GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 20,672 3DMark Shader Points

You're first score is with one 8800.

No, no it isn't.. A CPU speed increase of just over 50% almost doubled my shader output...
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[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"] Shader output w/ 3GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 13,904 3DMark Shader Points Shader output w/ 4.7GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 20,672 3DMark Shader Pointssuperclocked

You're first score is with one 8800.

No, no it isn't.. A CPU speed increase of just over 50% almost doubled my shader output...

You are wrong. I just overclocked my Q6600 from stock to 3.2Ghz and it did almost nothing in terms of increase the shader output.

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#45 risc-vs-cisc
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:| BOTH tests were ran using BOTH cardssuperclocked

Liar why did you change the scores and its still with one 8800 vs SLI or you just dramatically underclocked them on the first test considering one 8800GTS OC can go past 8000 sm.

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[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"] Shader output w/ 3GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 13,904 3DMark Shader Points Shader output w/ 4.7GHz Wolfdale, SLI OC G92 512MB 8800's... 20,672 3DMark Shader Pointssuperclocked

You're first score is with one 8800.

No, no it isn't.. A CPU speed increase of just over 50% almost doubled my shader output...

Riddicules nonsense,I wonder if you have ever benchmarked a game in your life.CPU pci-e sync does overclock your vid cards as you increase the fsb Async will "unlink" your fsb from the pci-e freq and you should have done this.