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#1 TMorss
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I recently upgraded my gfx card to a bfg 260gtx oc. I have an older core 2 duo and was thinking about buying the quad q6600. Just wondering if i would be better off to buy a faster core2 instead.
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#2 Snake_raider
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q6600 .. future proof and oc it a little if you know too.. way better choice
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#3 Captain__Tripps
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Q6600 if you are going to overclock.
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#4 TMorss
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Will I see a big performance boost with the slower 4 cores than with 2 faster cores?
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#5 TMorss
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The price on those q6600's is steal! I dont overclock due to the limitation of a factory INTEL cooler on my cpu. I need to get a new one. I am just too lazy to take everything out my case to mount the bracket on good cooler. I am terrible and getting my wires looking right again.
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#6 Captain__Tripps
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You can still overclock with a stock cooler... But if you are only going to run stock speeds id go with the e8500 personally...
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#7 LastIsFirst
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The E8500 overclocks much better than a Q6600.

I've seen the E8500 at a stable 4,6 clock. I've haven't seen the Q6600 at more than 3,2 stable.

When games in some distant future will take advantage of quadcores, the Q6600 will sadly be ancient.

So I would get the E8500 and wait with the quadcore.

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#8 StrikerFX
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With a stock cooler,E8500 can be overclocked to 3.6GHz stable,but Q6600...forget it.
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#9 Daytona_178
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Q6600 if you are going to overclock.Captain__Tripps
Agreed!
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#10 imprezawrx500
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Will I see a big performance boost with the slower 4 cores than with 2 faster cores?TMorss
in most game the faster clocked dual will be much faster but the quad will be fast in games that support quad such as gta4 but there are very few games that currently do so a dual is still the better choice.
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#12 Peltz999
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Depends on the price really. Go for which ever is cheaper since your GPU will run out of juice long before the CPU. Yes you can get more points out of the Q6 in some tests but in gaming it hardly makes any difference. And those who talked about futureproof, bad advice. Its gonna be awhile before games utilize 4 cores and by then, the available 4cores will make that Q6 look like sh*t. Futureproof cpu, maybe that 90 core experimental CPU is futureproof, the others aint.
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#13 teddyrob
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So I would get the E8500 and wait with the quadcore.

LastIsFirst

Wait for what. Quad core Q6600 makes a difference right now. The newer i7 Quad core would require him to upgrade his motherboard and RAM too. There is no point waiting.

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#14 nintendog66
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E8500 if you don't plan to overclock right now, or the Q6600 if you plan to overclock right away for blazing results.
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#15 kemar7856
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q6600
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#16 teddyrob
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Most games will require minimum dual core. Recommended quad core in 2009.

Take ARMA 2 for example.

http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA_2

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#17 EXLINK
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E8500 or the Yorkfield Quadcores (the Q9x00 ones), they're bound to come down in price now that the Core i7's and Phenom II X4's are out. The Q6600 is old news when it comes to Quadcores. Currently in most games, the E8500 destroys the Q6600 except for a couple games. Look up some benchmarks, there are a ton of them out.
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#18 risc-vs-cisc
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E8500 or the Yorkfield Quadcores (the Q9x00 ones), they're bound to come down in price now that the Core i7's and Phenom II X4's are out. The Q6600 is old news when it comes to Quadcores. Currently in most games, the E8500 destroys the Q6600 except for a couple games. Look up some benchmarks, there are a ton of them out.EXLINK

These benchmarks are misleading they will perform the same at the same FSB and the Q6600 will destroy it with anything that uses 4 threads and at the same FSB, no question Q6600 is the best option and for the same price.

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#19 Velocitas8
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I've seen the E8500 at a stable 4,6 clock. I've haven't seen the Q6600 at more than 3,2 stable.LastIsFirst

Uh..no, the average stable overclock for a G0-rev Q6600 is actually in the ~3.4GHz range (which is what mine's sitting at; air cooling.) That's certainly not a top-end overclock, either..I've seen even higher than that.

The thing is, you just don't need those sorts of clock speeds for many applications; especially not gaming. The one gaming exception I can think of (where you see significant performance increases from overclocking) is PCSX2, which is *extremely* CPU-reliant (and it's the primary reason I've clocked my processor that high, along with the bit of [multithreaded] video/audio encoding/transcoding I do.)

For the average user though: once you hit the ~3.0GHz clock-speed mark, a Core 2 Duo/Quad or i7 will not bottleneck any GPU setup in gaming apps, save for systems with mutli-GPU solutions. Even in those cases of Multi-GPU setups, your framerates are generally so high with that hardware that the CPU bottleneck is simply irrelevant.