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#1 orrytur
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Hi, I just got an Asus audio card and in the drivers software it says''Audio channels'' ad theres 2 to 8 channels to choose. Which one shoud I chose if I'm using headphones? Also there's also other features like ''virtual 7.1 speaker shifter'' and ''Dolby Headphones'' Which one shoud I check or uncheck to get the best sound quality possible? Thank you.

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2 channel for headphones.

Best sound quality possible? Leave any type of "surround" off. That destroys audio quality.

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#3 orrytur
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2 channel for headphones.

Best sound quality possible? Leave any type of "surround" off. That destroys audio quality.

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Some say 8 channels is best for 3D games + dolby surround
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#4 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

2 channel for headphones.

Best sound quality possible? Leave any type of "surround" off. That destroys audio quality.

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Some say 8 channels is best for 3D games + dolby surround

Maybe for hearing footsteps and such, but it destroys sound quality.

Me personally, I hate the stuff. Not only because it destroys SQ while trying to give a more spatial/surround feel "Which it sucks at doing anyway. Regular stereo does a good job alone," for some reason I get massive headaches listening to that stuff. CMSS-3D on Creative cards, Dolby Headphone on my home theater receiver, any of them. Headphones do a fantastic job of emulating surround without any sort of additional tech, as long as you got yourself a decent pair.

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You have 2 ears. If the speakers are of good quality and you are in the sweet spot-I'd consider headphones putting you in the sweet spot, then 2 channel should be all you need.
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You have 2 ears. If the speakers are of good quality and you are in the sweet spot-I'd consider headphones putting you in the sweet spot, then 2 channel should be all you need.rastan
I have 2 speakers + 1 subwoofer and I also have high quality headphones, with Asus Xonar DG, when I listen to music and change it to 2 channels, the sound quality its too muddy(close to mono) but when I select more than 2 channels, I can hear every single instrument and the sound is really clear. In other words, more than 2 channels is better for me for some reason.
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What headphones do you have? I have a Xonar DG + Sennheiser HD555 and Dolby Headphone creates an unnatural soundstage and distorts the sound when listening to a stereo music recording. DH doesn't really improve the "surround" in games for me so I stick with stereo. But that may be because the drivers in my headphones are angled so they don't benefit as much from DH.

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What headphones do you have? I have a Xonar DG + Sennheiser HD555 and Dolby Headphone creates an unnatural soundstage and distorts the sound when listening to a stereo music recording. DH doesn't really improve the "surround" in games for me so I stick with stereo. But that may be because the drivers in my headphones are angled so they don't benefit as much from DH.

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I have Sony's XB500's.

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Then with your setup, Dolby Headphone with 8 channels is probably best like you said. With an open headphone and angled drivers, stereo would be the better option since the improvement in "surround" would not outweigh the loss of sound quality.

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Then with your setup, Dolby Headphone with 8 channels is probably best like you said. With an open headphone and angled drivers, stereo would be the better option since the improvement in "surround" would not outweigh the loss of sound quality.

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But i still don;t understand why I get better sound with more than 2 channels when using headphones, I thought headphones were stereo max? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Could be the headphones. An esoteric pair of high end stereo speakers can sound better than 5 cheapo bookshelf speakers. Could also be some type of additional processing, etc.
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Could be the headphones. An esoteric pair of high end stereo speakers can sound better than 5 cheapo bookshelf speakers. Could also be some type of additional processing, etc.rastan
Yeah I think my headphores are surround headphones, I also remember seeing ''surround'' before buying these headphones.
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[QUOTE="rastan"]Could be the headphones. An esoteric pair of high end stereo speakers can sound better than 5 cheapo bookshelf speakers. Could also be some type of additional processing, etc.orrytur
Yeah I think my headphores are surround headphones, I also remember seeing ''surround'' before buying these headphones.

They aren't. They're normal stereo. They're Sony's line of "bass heavy" headphones which suck absolute donkey nuts unless all you care about is bass.

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[QUOTE="simplyderp"]

Then with your setup, Dolby Headphone with 8 channels is probably best like you said. With an open headphone and angled drivers, stereo would be the better option since the improvement in "surround" would not outweigh the loss of sound quality.

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But i still don;t understand why I get better sound with more than 2 channels when using headphones, I thought headphones were stereo max? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Is it when you have 8 channels with Dolby Headphone OFF? If DH is on, then it's DH that's making the audio sound better. Listening to a few stereo songs my heapdhones, I don't notice a difference between setting the output channel from 2 to 8. However, when I enable Dolby Headphone there is a difference. It certainly brings the sound in front of me, but makes it sound like I'm living in a tin can (a lot of reverb effects to simulate surround).

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[QUOTE="orrytur"][QUOTE="rastan"]Could be the headphones. An esoteric pair of high end stereo speakers can sound better than 5 cheapo bookshelf speakers. Could also be some type of additional processing, etc.ChubbyGuy40

Yeah I think my headphores are surround headphones, I also remember seeing ''surround'' before buying these headphones.

They aren't. They're normal stereo. They're Sony's line of "bass heavy" headphones which suck absolute donkey nuts unless all you care about is bass.

No, they're not all about bass, they're fantastic for everything that I tried, it just needs some EQ and a good sound card, have you even tried these headphones? I bet not.
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[QUOTE="orrytur"][QUOTE="simplyderp"]

Then with your setup, Dolby Headphone with 8 channels is probably best like you said. With an open headphone and angled drivers, stereo would be the better option since the improvement in "surround" would not outweigh the loss of sound quality.

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But i still don;t understand why I get better sound with more than 2 channels when using headphones, I thought headphones were stereo max? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Is it when you have 8 channels with Dolby Headphone OFF? If DH is on, then it's DH that's making the audio sound better. Listening to a few stereo songs my heapdhones, I don't notice a difference between setting the output channel from 2 to 8. However, when I enable Dolby Headphone there is a difference. It certainly brings the sound in front of me, but makes it sound like I'm living in a tin can (a lot of reverb effects to simulate surround).

Yes, everything including Dolby headphones are off when listening to music, it's hard to explain how it sounds when I switch to more than 2 channels, it's like going from 320p to 720p on youtube(music), the sound gets clear and better.
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="orrytur"]Yeah I think my headphores are surround headphones, I also remember seeing ''surround'' before buying these headphones.orrytur

They aren't. They're normal stereo. They're Sony's line of "bass heavy" headphones which suck absolute donkey nuts unless all you care about is bass.

No, they're not all about bass, they're fantastic for everything that I tried, it just needs some EQ and a good sound card, have you even tried these headphones? I bet not.

Nope. I have better. And these are your headphones. "Extra Bass headphones." I've listened to a pair before, but I didn't like them one bit and I usually love Sony products.

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#18 orrytur
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[QUOTE="orrytur"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

They aren't. They're normal stereo. They're Sony's line of "bass heavy" headphones which suck absolute donkey nuts unless all you care about is bass.

ChubbyGuy40

No, they're not all about bass, they're fantastic for everything that I tried, it just needs some EQ and a good sound card, have you even tried these headphones? I bet not.

Nope. I have better. And these are your headphones. "Extra Bass headphones." I've listened to a pair before, but I didn't like them one bit and I usually love Sony products.

Just because it's ''extra bass headphones'' labeled, it doesn't mean it's only good at bass, I listen to rock, soft rock and classic too and I just need to tune it up with an equalizer to fit the song genre. It also does an excellent job on all kind of music but like I said you just need to EQ a little bit, The ''pair'' that you mentioned were they XB500's? Because the XB700/1000's are overbassed like you said, The one that I have(XB500's) it's in the ''perfect'' spot.