Questions about graphics in racing games

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#1 sebarez
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I'm not an avid gamer. Right now I'm only playing two titles, GRID and Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2010 with my Radeon 4850 1 GB card. They are smooth enough for it, but I'm somehow disappointed that NFS, even though it has beautiful landscapes, doesn't look any more realistic now than it did 3 or 4 years ago. However, something occurred to me... could it be that because of my Radeon 4850 the game is not showing its true graphic potential? I mean, many years ago, if you got a game that was too heavy for your graphics card, it would drop frames, especially when you had too much going on on the screen. Is that the same way nowadays, or does the game adjust automatically the graphics quality so that it keeps showing a smooth motion? My point is that although NFS looks pretty good, for a 2010 game I don't see that much of an improvement in how real the virtual world in it looks, even if you can tell that the designers put a lot of detail into it, but it still has jagged edges and stuff that looks too much like a game. But maybe the game makes it look that way automatically because it detects that the card isn't that great to begin with. In conclusion, would I get a more realistic experience in NFS Hot Pursuit if I got a GeForce GTX 560 Ti for example? Or would it look just the same? Note that in the 3D settings for the Radeon 4850 I have everything in the best possible settings, and in the game itself also it's at the best possible, 1920x1080 and all the sliders to the right as well as ON for the settings with just on or off.
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#2 sexygirl6t9
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Your graphics card is fine. Racing games graphics haven't improved that much in the years. I mean Gran Turismo 4 looks great and it's 6 years old. That was the last racing game I ever played. Looking at some, the game Dirt 2 probably has the best graphics. The landscapes and lightning looks nice. The vehicle models for all racing games have pretty much been the same for the last few years. I prefer racing in GTA where I can smash the hell out of cars. That's what real racing games need. They can work on the graphics of damage cars and car parts flying off :)
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#3 visceron
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NFS: Hot Pursuit (2010) doesn't have in game anti-aliasing (AA). That is why it looks all jaggy. You have to force AA in your catalyst control center. Also make sure you are using the native resolution of your monitor. Dirt 2 does look really good on the PC and Dirt 3 is a slight improvement.
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#4 nesproc
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think nfs is unrealistic dont play blur =p

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#5 Masculus
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Hi there, i had the same card as you do. After updating to a stronger one (HD6850), the only improvment is in frame-rate. In general, though performance may vary, if you put itat the same settings with a more powerful card, you should get the same image quality. Most racing games out there are made with consoles in mind, so it's no wonder there are no large differences in the graphical quality.

NFS Hot Pursuit in special is a lousy port; if the game is dated, blame the software. For example, this game uses a lighting technology that enables the fancy sirens and a lot of tiny other light sources but that's incompatible with traditional anti-aliasing methods under DX9.It therefore uses a blur method that does not work to hide the jagged edges.

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#6 sebarez
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[QUOTE="visceron"]NFS: Hot Pursuit (2010) doesn't have in game anti-aliasing (AA). That is why it looks all jaggy. You have to force AA in your catalyst control center. Also make sure you are using the native resolution of your monitor.

Actually I did. I unchecked "Use application settings" and moved the slider all the way to 8x. However, there's a drop down list with the choices Box, Narrow-Tent, Wide-Tent and Edge-Detect, which I have no idea what they are, so I left them in Box. Under Anisotropic Filtering I moved it all the way to 16x, Catalyst A.I. I tried both on and off and didn't seem to make a difference, and the rest of the settings I moved the slider to "Quality", and OpenGL Triple Buffering on. As foe the monitor rez, the native is 1920x1080, which is what I left it at in the game since it was that way.
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#7 sebarez
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NFS Hot Pursuit in special is a lousy port; if the game is dated, blame the software. For example, this game uses a lighting technology that enables the fancy sirens and a lot of tiny other light sources but that's incompatible with traditional anti-aliasing methods under DX9.It therefore uses a blur method that does not work to hide the jagged edges.Masculus
So other than GRID, what PC racing games have the most realistic graphics? I mean, still arcade type like NFS and GRID, but with graphics that look updated to the capabilities of the latest $200 cards.
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#8 flipin_jackass
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DiRT 2 looks really good and runs pretty smooth. I have a 4770 which was said to perform similar to your 4850 and it ran very well with everything on high. I could imagine that it will run even better with newer cards. DiRT 3 came out today and seeing some videos of it, it's looking better than DiRT 2.
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#9 sebarez
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Oh, actually I forgot to mention, I would like to know what racing games are realistic but not off-road like Dirt, and also not F1 or racing track. I like the virtual worlds of NFS and the city tracks in GRID, but I don't care much about the ones with dirt roads or F1 racing tracks. And just to test, in any kind of game, which is the game that has the most realistic graphics? I mean, I saw a video of the GeForce GTX560 running Duke Nukem Forever and it seemed OK, but it didn't strike me as having great realism, although having played Duke Nukem 3D I'm sure it must be a lot of fun. I would like to download a demo of the most realistic game for PC regardless of the category just to see what's regarded as the best these days.
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#10 gameofthering
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Arma 2?

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#11 DanielDust
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There are no realistic games also for NFS it looks way better than it did 3-4 years ago, The Run will look even better (tho I doubt it'll be anything good unlike Shift 2). If you want to test your graphics card, get Metro 2033, Arma 2, Crysis 1, FSX, Witcher 2 and Shogun 2.
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#13 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]There are no realistic games also for NFS it looks way better than it did 3-4 years ago, The Run will look even better (tho I doubt it'll be anything good unlike Shift 2). If you want to test your graphics card, get Metro 2033, Arma 2, Crysis 1, FSX, Witcher 2 and Shogun 2.Starshine_M2A2
'Realistic' is a broad term. Realistic in terms or physics, visuals, setting, story or history? Define your terms and then you may post.

Might be hard to understand this thread but @_@ I cracked the code, he was talking about graphics, I'd say get a clue but it might be too hard for some to understand from the TCs posts.
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#15 sebarez
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Peace dudes :) What I tried to convey and didn't do a great job at, is quality of graphics, followed by physics. GRID seems to me to have the greatest quality graphics and physics I've seen, but it's a game from 2008, so I was wondering if there was something much better in the 3 years since it came out. I bet Dirt 3 must have great graphics coming from the same company, but for what I see Dirt is mostly off-road racing, right? I remember trying one of them, I can't remember if it was 1 or 2, and I loved the graphics but hated the handling.