Rate my PC build

I am planning for a new PC build please rate and comment.

Case: Thermaltake Core P3 White

Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Taichi

CPU: i7 7700k

GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z.

RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3200MHz

PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower DPS G RGB 650W Gold

Storage: SAMSUNG 950 EVO 250GB M.2 NVME / Seagate Hybrid Drive ST1000DX001 1TB

Custom Loop: Thermaltake Pacific RL360 D5 RGB hard tube kit

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@stathis90: Moved to Hardware forum

Lol RGB everywhere with Thermaltake these days, I would go with EVGA G2/P2

It's a good build, have fun. Intel still wins.

I'm not choose Thermaltake Toughpower DPS G RGB 650W Gold.

It's too Lol.

@metroid5: if vega was available I could consider an AMD build. Thanks for your reply!

@PredatorRules: I might change PSU after studying the tier list a little bit more! Thanks for your reply!

@Travis_Odell: Thanks for your comment!

7.5/10. Solid build.

@BassMan: Thank you!

Nothing wrong with the build, but if it was my money I'd choose 7600K, GTX 1080, 850 Evo 500GB and a regular HDD.

@stathis90: Way 2 big for 2017...

6/10

Replace the SAMSUNG 950 EVO with a normal SSD, there isn't a performance difference, the SSD is just more universal thinking ahead. I'd recommend a SSD for the second drive as well(500Gb), most of your games will be in the cloud anyways.

I'd also recommend an AIO water cooling solution, they do the job without the maintenance.

@PfizersaurusRex: Thanks for your comment I might go for the 7600K in the end and get a GTX 1080 with the spare money.

G3... Because why not?

Yup, forgot about the new series, but I think I still remember that they're a bit more expensive - because "new" is always "better"

@PredatorRules: Maybe it is a bit smaller as well. Wonder if they will update the P2 or T2 lineup soon.

@stathis90:

Let's break it down shall we?

Case: The case is meh, but performance wise it doesn't do anything. so it doesn't effect my score.

Motherboard- 9: The motherboard is solid and absolutely packed with features. It is probably going to be the motherboard I am going to get. Motherboards don't do a whole lot in the performance department, but that is a pretty solid mobo.

CPU- 9.5: The i7-7700K is the best CPU for 1080p gaming and a damn good 1440p cpu. It is currently the best quad core processor in the world right now.

GPU- 8.9: Nvidia's GTX 1070s are some of the best GPUs in the world second to only the current king (GTX 1080 and soon to be GTX 1080i). That being said, the MSI version isn't the best third party GTX 1070, and while it still is great, you could have gone with something a bit better.

RAM- 9: Solid RAM choice, but how many gigs? Any DDR4 RAM is going to fly.

PSU- 7: Here is where you lost some points because that PSU, good, but not great. Hands down, Corsair makes the best PSUs in the market and you could have done yourself better by getting one of their 750w or 850w Platinum ones.

Storage- 7.5: Here is where you lose some more points. The Samsung 950 Evo is a damn fine SSD, but the hybrid drive is a bad choice- spend the extra money and get dual SSDs. The only time I have ever seen hybrid drives show their use is in a PS4 or an XBox One.

After we add all of the scores and get the average we get an 8.5 out of 10 (rounded up from 8.48).

You have a very solid build, better than what some people led you to believe. On your machine you can play any game on max settings @ 1080p and this is nothing to scoff at. However, you do have some areas of improvement such has your storage (get rid of that hybrid drive) and your lack luster PSU. Other than that, enjoy your rig!

Looks like it will be a good system.

• Case - not my personal aesthetic preference but I guess it will be easy to clean. I'm currently looking at the TT x71 for a full water cooling build
• PSU - Not really familiar with TT PSUs, anything 80+ gold or better is a good choice though.
• GPU - I would go for a 1080Ti (I know - expesnsive...), but I like 1440p/Ultra/100fps - what monitor are you using? I would also probably want to add this to the loop and maybe add an extra radiator if it will fit.
• CPU - probably current best of the best for gaming.
• RAM - RAM is RAM, G. Skill is a good brand.
• Storage - I would ditch the HDD, but I have a NAS for those kind of drives. Get a 960 Pro 500GB - should be plenty for OS/apps/games.

8/10

@pyro1245: You can game fine at 1440p with the 1070. The 1080i is an amazing GPU, but you will end up paying over $700 and the performance jump isn't that big to warrant the cost- why pay almost double when you don't even get anywhere near double the performance? Buying two 1070s would even probably be better than buying a single 1080ti. Also, when the 1070 is paired with a solid CPU, and solid RAM you can't lose.

In terms of RAM, the statement RAM is RAM is simply not true. RAM performance varies quite differently based on its speed and timings. Its all about the speed and Crucial released an article saying that the speed was actually more important than timings in terms of how fast the RAM could actually be, but that both can be huge factors. G.Skill Trident Z 3200Mhz CL14 is the fastest DDR4 RAM on the market.

@Mighty-Lu-Bu: I would still opt for the 1080Ti. From what I've seen in various benchmarks it's generally about a 35-40% increase in performance.

I have a 980Ti, which is basically equivalent to a 1070. I have it overclocked to about 1450MHz and I would still like a bit more performance. I tend to hit 60fps on Ultra at 1440p in a lot of games, but i'd love to get around 100fps. It's not necessary, but I generally don't make reasonable computer hardware purchases. If you're spending $300-400 to water cool your CPU you're already outside the reasonable category.

1070 is definitely a great card for 1440p and has a very good price point. It's plenty for 1440p. Two 1070's might be a bit better than a 1080Ti for a bit more money and a lot more power. I also prefer a single-card setup because a second card means a second water block for me.

It's really a preference thing and you can't say the extra cost does not warrant the performance jump for everyone - maybe not for you.

Also you will not see any differences in performance changing up the RAM on a 7700k - maybe a few fps. So in this case RAM is RAM. If your going with Ryzen, then yeah it matters.

@pyro1245: A 980ti is not basically the same as a 1070- the 1070 does everything better than a 980ti and the 1070 has excellent performance at 1440p. Again the 1080ti is a waste of money because he can already achieve what he wants with the 1070- paying $380 as opposed to $780 is a no brainer.

The extra cost is not warranted at all- I am all about price to performance ratios and in terms of price to performance the 1070 is a tough card to beat. You can get a bit more performance, but pay like $200 more for a 1080, or you can pay about $300+ more and get a bit more performance than the 1080 with the 1080ti, but it isn't worth it. If the 1070 can already do everything at 1080p and 1440p that these other cards can so why fork over the extra cash? Makes zero sense.

All this goes out the window though he wants to game in 4k and if that is the case than he would most likely have to go with the 1080ti, but 4K gaming is one of the dumbest things ever- pay a ridiculous amount of money for so-so performance.

Also, if money isn't a factor than he should go crazy haha

@Mighty-Lu-Bu: You might want to look at some benchmarks. I've said everything I wanted to say. I'm done with this argument.

+1 for this.

I'd take better performance in 98% of games rather than the 2% which are badly optimized and benefit from the 7700K over the 7600K.

Looking at you Watchdogs 2!

7700K is the best gaming CPU today... Give me a minute and I'll look for sources to back that up or retract it.

So one source... Though not definite best as in always being number 1.... Source 1 and 2

Does that mean it is the best one year from now? No. Longer term investment is also hard to say.

Maybe I should have been more clear.

If going for the 7700K means he uses the GTX 1070, then for the vast majority of games, he's better off saving the money and getting the 7600K, and putting it towards the gtx 1080.

Only outliers, like watchdogs 2 that use an unreasonable amount of CPU power would benefit from the reverse set up, and you never want to base your build on outliers imo.

@appariti0n: Doesn't change the fact that the 7700k is the best gaming CPU out right now. If paired with a GTX 1070 he will be able to play anything on max settings. Its not just Watch Dogs 2, there are plenty of CPU intensive games out there (the GTA titles have been the most notorious) and here is a list:

https://ageeky.com/top-10-most-cpu-intensive-games/

Plus there are a lot more games out there than this. Bottom line, if you have a good mix of GPU and GPU power you are fine.

@Mighty-Lu-Bu: At no point did I say otherwise. Everyone knows the 7700k is the best gaming cpu, if budget is no issue.

I'm merely pointing out the fact that the extra $ invested in the jump from the 1070 to the 1080 will impact performance broadly across ALL games, not just the anomalies like GTA V and Watchdogs, which would benefit from the upgrade to the 7700K. I can play any game on ultra at 1080p with my gtx 1080, and my CPU launched in 2010. If I had a brand new 7700k, and a GPU from 2010, I definitely could not do that.

Honestly the ONLY time I would recommend prioritizing an i7 over an i5 for gaming, is if you are a huge RTS buff. That's the one genre of games where all of the artificial intelligence calculations that go on can actually get full benefit out of the extra threads.

Also, you might want to actually READ the articles you choose to post.

ARMA 3: "While playing the game we found out that the game is not core hungry rather it put a lot of stress on limited no. of cores so here single core performance is the priority."

In what universe would the additional virtual cores on an i7 help?