really how much better is dd2 then ddr?

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#1 Axecident
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Lets say i have 2 gb drr pc3200 400 in dual channel. If I were to put 2xgb  ddr2 pc2 5400 675 dual channel. Would it make a huge jump?? would I be able to see the diff? Is it even wort buying or just a waste?
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#2 newage79
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yes man theres a reason they call it ddr2 ram and that is that it able to optimize all functions needed compared to ddr ram i personally made the jump a couple a months ago a noticably saw the difference so it was many well spent on my part
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#3 Axecident
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would this ram with this mobo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813157092 It takes 667. Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145015 ram is 675 would it stil lwork in that mobo?
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#4 r3351925
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yeah it will, but it sounds funny that ram on that mobo :? :D.
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#5 Axecident
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yeah it will, but it sounds funny that ram on that mobo :? :D.r3351925
how does it sound funny what do you mean?
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while the memory bandwidth will increase substantially, the performance increase is only marginal. Don't upgrade exclusively for ddr2, the money would be better spent on a cpu or gpu.
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#7 Axecident
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while the memory bandwidth will increase substantially, the performance increase is only marginal. Don't upgrade exclusively for ddr2, the money would be better spent on a cpu or gpu.
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thanks a lot man just what I need to hear.
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#8 codezer0
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DDR2 operates much differently from DDR1 memory, which is why it needs higher latencies. However, you really need some fast DDR2 to be able to have measurable performance improvements, since even nowadays, most DDR2 and memory controllers are very inefficient. Getting lower-latency DDR2 of the same given FSB speed helps, but not as much as if you could get a much higher speed-rated DDR2 to begin with (i.e. low-latency DDR2-533 may perform better than average DDR2-533, but it won't affect performance as much as getting a set of DDR2-800 or DDR2-1066). With DDR2-800, you can see a very appreciable boost over even quality DDR-400 systems. From DDR2-800 to DDR2-1066, not so much. Socket AM2 practically needs DDR2-800, because the current chips were designed with low-latency DDR-400 in mind, and need DDR2-800 to effectively offset the latency loss and get an appreciable performance improvement.
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#9 Axecident
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[QUOTE="codezer0"]DDR2 operates much differently from DDR1 memory, which is why it needs higher latencies. However, you really need some fast DDR2 to be able to have measurable performance improvements, since even nowadays, most DDR2 and memory controllers are very inefficient. Getting lower-latency DDR2 of the same given FSB speed helps, but not as much as if you could get a much higher speed-rated DDR2 to begin with (i.e. low-latency DDR2-533 may perform better than average DDR2-533, but it won't affect performance as much as getting a set of DDR2-800 or DDR2-1066). With DDR2-800, you can see a very appreciable boost over even quality DDR-400 systems. From DDR2-800 to DDR2-1066, not so much. Socket AM2 practically needs DDR2-800, because the current chips were designed with low-latency DDR-400 in mind, and need DDR2-800 to effectively offset the latency loss and get an appreciable performance improvement.

ty you for the info .But what about 667mhz ddr2? would that be a huge jump form ddr 1?
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#10 codezer0
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What are you upgrading to? Intel (Core 2) or Socket AM2? If you're going for Socket AM2, you really need DDR2-800. The differences in the memory tech and the fact that the internal processor logic was meant for low-latency DDR400, well, you need DDR2-800 or better to really counteract the performance penalty you'd get otherwise. With an intel C2D setup, *AND* if you don't plan on overclocking at all, you should be fine with DDR2-533 memory. If you want to overclock with either, DDR2-800 or faster is practically a must.
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[QUOTE="codezer0"]What are you upgrading to? Intel (Core 2) or Socket AM2? If you're going for Socket AM2, you really need DDR2-800. The differences in the memory tech and the fact that the internal processor logic was meant for low-latency DDR400, well, you need DDR2-800 or better to really counteract the performance penalty you'd get otherwise. With an intel C2D setup, *AND* if you don't plan on overclocking at all, you should be fine with DDR2-533 memory. If you want to overclock with either, DDR2-800 or faster is practically a must.

say if I want to OC a e4300 with ddr pc3200 400 and its @1.8 stock. Will I be able to reach high clocks like 2.6?? or do I have to buy dd2?
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Are there even any boards that do LGA775 and DDR, excluding the hybrids? Get a Nforce 6 board and you won't have to worry about how fast your ram is, as you can set the fsb and memory independently; of course this requires DDR2 to begin with.
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#13 Axecident
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Are there even any boards that do LGA775 and DDR, excluding the hybrids? Get a Nforce 6 board and you won't have to worry about how fast your ram is, as you can set the fsb and memory independently; of course this requires DDR2 to begin with. BeavermanA
nope it has to have agp. cuv I be damn if am going to buy a new card. this one is perfect and I just OC it today so its all most as good as the high end 7 series.
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#14 BeavermanA
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Well good luck with all that, I personally would just upgrade everything at once and avoid the hassle of trying to keep everything compatible, because in the end you spend way more and get less performance. Well I must get my STALKER fill before going to sleep, game is dooope :D.
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#15 Axecident
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Well good luck with all that, I personally would just upgrade everything at once and avoid the hassle of trying to keep everything compatible, because in the end you spend way more and get less performance. Well I must get my STALKER fill before going to sleep, game is dooope :D.BeavermanA
Well i let you know how much my pc owns when I get core 2 duo next month. I don't care how much it cost. I messed up and its too late to go back.
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#16 -Oreo-
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the speed in ddr2 is much better then ddr
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#17 muppet1010
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I wouldnt upgrade exclusively for ddr2 ram. It is a small jump in speed but you could get a much better increase in performance with a new processor or graphics card.
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#18 Axecident
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I wouldnt upgrade exclusively for ddr2 ram. It is a small jump in speed but you could get a much better increase in performance with a new processor or graphics card.muppet1010
So I might as well stick with my 2gb ddr ram.