Reccomend me a 22" monitor . . .

Hi!

At the moment I'm looking for a monitor that can make the Xbox 360 look its best.

I'm also looking to run PC games on it too, so a high response rate would be great.

I dont want to go above 22" or more than 2" below it.

My budget is around £250 ($500).

So can anyone reccommend a brilliant monitor for me?

Thanks for any responses!

The Samsung 226BW is a very good montior, the only problem with it is that there a chance that you won't get a samsung panel, and instead get a panel which is a bit inferior.

But overall it's a very, very good LCD.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-050-SA

The Samsung 226BW is a very good montior, the only problem with it is that there a chance that you won't get a samsung panel, and instead get a panel which is a bit inferior.

But overall it's a very, very good LCD.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-050-SA

G013M

I've heard thats a brilliant monitor, but i'm not sure if i want to risk the chance of getting a rubbish one.

If you can, get the Samsung 226CW, the updated model of the 226BW which has cure most of its problems except that there are still non-samsung panels made.

If not, then the BenQ FP22WH is also a great alternative.

I was in exactly the same situation as you and I came on here for advice about buying a new monitor. In the end I chose the Samsung BW as mentioned in the thread above and it arrived on Friday (4th Jan).

I'll tell you now, its amazing.

I've got it because I'm getting a new PC and I wanted a decent monitor to go with it. At the moment though I'm using it on a Pentium 4 (3.2 Ghz, XP) but never the less, the games are great. It's like I've had a new PC!.

Far Cry, Call Of Duty 2, Battle For Middle Earth all look brilliant.

Seriously, when I first saw them on my new monitor I gasped!!!

Sad I know.

I'd go for the Samsung and from overclockers. That's where I went and I'm glad I did.

If you can, get the Samsung 226CW, the updated model of the 226BW which has cure most of its problems except that there are still non-samsung panels made.

If not, then the BenQ FP22WH is also a great alternative.

SSJBen

So that's what it's called. I remember someone talking about an updated version of it, but I couldn't remember what it was called.

So yea, I'd go with SSJBen.

All 22" models have problems. Right now the Samsung 226bw and the HP w2207 are two popular "good" panels you can buy, but beware for console gaming that TN panels have significant vertical viewing angle problems. Example - if your TV is on a stand, and you lay on the floor on a beanbag chair and look up at it, you will not be able to see the picture correctly.

The really big problem, even for people who don't made the viewing angle is, is that Samsung and HP are using inferior panels in some batches. So, instead of getting a great Samsung panel, you might get a really inferior panel that has color problems, halos, banding, light bleed, et cetera. Make sure you research the monitor you're going to get, and buy from somewhere with a good return policy. You don't want to get landed with a monitor from a bad batch.

I personally hate TN, but the Samsung 226bw and the HP w2207 are two of the better TN panels. In your budget, S-IPS may be out of the question. If you're console gaming too the HP w2207's armature is far nice than Samsung's - you'll really be able to adjust the monitor's height, angle, and rotation to meet your needs.

I've heard the smaller (20") models are sharper, as its the same amount of pixels but on a smaller screen.

Is that right?

I've heard the smaller (20") models are sharper, as its the same amount of pixels but on a smaller screen.

Is that right?

123ABCJAD

yes as they use 0.258

There's a beautiful acer one here from play.com for a mere £119.99 ($239) but it's only a 19" widescreen.

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3508400/Acer-P193W-Crystalbrite-19-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor-Piano-Black/Product.html

I'm leaning toward the 226BW, i'm still frightened about the panel issues though. I've heard you can calibrate the other panels to the same standards as the original, is this true?

WouldI be able to just return the product if it was the wrong panel?

I know your looking for 22" monitor. But let me say something to you,

I bought a 1080i 24" monitor and I am a PC and Xbox360 player like you. But now I'm thinking why I didn't buy a bigger one because games on these huge monitors are totally differentin comparisiontosmaller ones.

So I recommend: by $200 more buy a bigger one because after 2 or 3 years you will have a feeling like mine.

I'm leaning toward the 226BW, i'm still frightened about the panel issues though. I've heard you can calibrate the other panels to the same standards as the original, is this true?

WouldI be able to just return the product if it was the wrong panel?

123ABCJAD

go for this it has 1080p and dvi,hdmi, vga , aswell as component samsung sm2032mw

I know your looking for 22" monitor. But let me say something to you,

I bought a 1080i 24" monitor and I am a PC and Xbox360 player like you. But now I'm thinking why I didn't buy a bigger one because games on these huge monitors are totally differentin comparisiontosmaller ones.

So I recommend: by $200 more buy a bigger one because after 2 or 3 years you will have a feeling like mine.

samir_ghofran

The problem is, if i went for a 24" my PC wouldnt be able to handle the massive resolution.

I'm looking to play at high settings on a decent resolution (1600x1200) instead of low settings on a higher resolution.

The second problem is my budget. Thats why i'm going for the 22".

I'll hopefully see the massive difference from my 17" Compaq CRT.

22" is simply an awkward size, you can always gets a 24" monitor and use 1:1 pixel mapping to play at 1680x1050, keep that important 1:1, and your actual screen area will be fine (similar to a 20" monitor with that native resolution, perhaps larger). Or you can simply play at a lower resolution, such as 1280x800, and have it scale. A larger, higher resolution monitor actually handles the scaling better because it has more pixels to work with (for comparisson, scale a 1440 x 900 image to 1680 x 1050, a small increase in pixels causes the worst image quality, as oppossed to a large increase).

As is, you'll be playing your Xbox 360 games in non-native resolution - "upscaling" is a nice way of saying scaling - the games are internally rendered at resolutions as low as 800 x 600, and are simply scaled by the onboard chip - something your GPU in your PC can do as well.

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The main issue is simply the panel quality you're getting though. I suggest taking a look at the HP w2207 or the Samsung 226cw if you've really got your heart set on that size, but going non-TN would probably benefit you in the long run. If you do pick those monitors, definitely get somewhere with a good return policy, in case you get one of the crappy ones.

22" is simply an awkward size, you can always gets a 24" monitor and use 1:1 pixel mapping to play at 1680x1050, keep that important 1:1, and your actual screen area will be fine (similar to a 20" monitor with that native resolution, perhaps larger). Or you can simply play at a lower resolution, such as 1280x800, and have it scale. A larger, higher resolution monitor actually handles the scaling better because it has more pixels to work with (for comparisson, scale a 1440 x 900 image to 1680 x 1050, a small increase in pixels causes the worst image quality, as oppossed to a large increase).

As is, you'll be playing your Xbox 360 games in non-native resolution - "upscaling" is a nice way of saying scaling - the games are internally rendered at resolutions as low as 800 x 600, and are simply scaled by the onboard chip - something your GPU in your PC can do as well.

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The main issue is simply the panel quality you're getting though. I suggest taking a look at the HP w2207 or the Samsung 226cw if you've really got your heart set on that size, but going non-TN would probably benefit you in the long run. If you do pick those monitors, definitely get somewhere with a good return policy, in case you get one of the crappy ones.

subrosian

I have been considering the HP w2207; I believe that has 1:1 pixel mapping.

Is the image quality going to be good though? I really want the best for my price range.

Does it have any major panel issues i should know about?

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

22" is simply an awkward size, you can always gets a 24" monitor and use 1:1 pixel mapping to play at 1680x1050, keep that important 1:1, and your actual screen area will be fine (similar to a 20" monitor with that native resolution, perhaps larger). Or you can simply play at a lower resolution, such as 1280x800, and have it scale. A larger, higher resolution monitor actually handles the scaling better because it has more pixels to work with (for comparisson, scale a 1440 x 900 image to 1680 x 1050, a small increase in pixels causes the worst image quality, as oppossed to a large increase).

As is, you'll be playing your Xbox 360 games in non-native resolution - "upscaling" is a nice way of saying scaling - the games are internally rendered at resolutions as low as 800 x 600, and are simply scaled by the onboard chip - something your GPU in your PC can do as well.

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The main issue is simply the panel quality you're getting though. I suggest taking a look at the HP w2207 or the Samsung 226cw if you've really got your heart set on that size, but going non-TN would probably benefit you in the long run. If you do pick those monitors, definitely get somewhere with a good return policy, in case you get one of the crappy ones.

123ABCJAD

I have been considering the HP w2207; I believe that has 1:1 pixel mapping.

Is the image quality going to be good though? I really want the best for my price range.

Does it have any major panel issues i should know about?

All TN panels have a few issues, because they are 6-bit, and because Twisted Nematic compromises some quality to reduce cost. You should be aware with this specfic panel of the possibility of "pink halos" around letters, minor backlight bleed, glare (depending on the location) on the glossy screen surface (similar to a CRT monitor), and the image being "sharper" on the bottom of the screen, while being "blurrier" on the top (or vice versa).

The degree to which your individual panel suffers from this, and the degree to which it bothers you, are variable, which is why I'd suggest playing around with one before you buy. I think if you're used to CRT, the HP monitor will likely be the one that's the most appealing to you.

This issues are minor by comparisson to the average TN monitor, off-brand "budget" TN panels are an absolute ungodly eyesore by comparisson. Supposing you get your hands on one of these HPs or Samsungs with the legitimate Samsung panel, you should have only the stand to worry about - which is again where I feel the HP wins - a real, fully adjustable, fully rotable stand just makes using your monitor painless, where (by comparisson) the Samsung's stand is rather flimsy.

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I think I'd take a look around for HP w2207 in stores and play around with it to see what I mean. Try and look at the Apple Cinema displays (23"+) to see what I mean though about the "flaws" of TN technology. Try looking at the monitors from all angles, playing with them, looking at them from the top, sides, and bottom.

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I personally think the HP w2207 is better than the Samsung 226cw because of the stand alone. You're not going to want to spend another $100 (or the euro / pound equivelant) on an armature - and one of the biggest flaws of TN panels is viewing angle. With the HP stand, you can easily move the HP panel to where it's comfortably facing you at least, so that you're getting the best possible view of the screen you can have. Play with it in store and you'll see what I mean.

I've heard the smaller (20") models are sharper, as its the same amount of pixels but on a smaller screen.

Is that right?

123ABCJAD

It sure is correct, I have a Samsung 20" 206BW, and I tell you now, the picture quality is second to none.