Router being dominated by UUSEE. Need help in finding a new router or fix.

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#1 simplyderp
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For Mr.TLDR,

Question 1: Streaming P2P is possibly beating the crap out of WRT54Gv6 using DD-WRT. Do I need a new router (gaming, other people using P2P, flashable with 3rd party firmware)? What do you recommend?

Question 2:Would it be possible to do this:

1. Connect new router to modem

2. Connect old router to LAN port on new router

3. Use old router for wireless and wired P2P

4. All P2P performance hits would only affect the performance on the older router, so that any connections to the new router are not affected.

-End TLDR-

At the moment, I'm using a WRT54G v6 router flashed with DD-WRT to network three computers: two through ethernet and one through wireless. My download/upload speed is around 13Mbps/3.5Mbps

My grandparents like to use a Chinese P2P streaming program called UUSEE to watch their favorite pirated shows/movies (almost every "legitimate" media website in China is a plethora of pirated material). Unfortunately when they start a movie, UUSEE likes to open 400+ active IP connections and upload around 300 KB/s. There are no settings to change since this isn't a traditional P2P application. You can't download the videos at night either. They are "streaming" and the computer is used as a node. UUSEE downloads/uploads 30 second bits from your computer, from the start to end time. I'm using Netlimiter to limit their upload speed to 40 MB/s (bordering stability), but the 400+ active IP connections can't be changed afaik. The upload limit hasn't affected their streaming, but instead of killing the router and requiring a reset, the router slows to a crawl.

At the moment, I'm using a WRT54G v6 router flashed with DD-WRT to network three computers: two through ethernet and one through wireless. My download/upload speed is around 13Mbps/3.5Mbps. I was thinking of investing in a new router to fit my needs:

- Gaming performance

- Able to handle many active IP connections

- Able to flash DD-WRT and/or Tomato

On newegg, I'm comparing the WRT54GL, DIR-655, and D-Link DGL "gaming" routers.

Would it be possible to do this:

1. Connect new router to modem

2. Connect old router to LAN port on new router

3. Use old router for wireless and wired P2P

4. All P2P performance hits would only affect the performance on the older router, so that any connections to the new router are not affected.

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#2 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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None of those options would solve your problem because even if you have your own personal router, the traffic with come to a chokepoint on the router that is connected to the modem. It's not the number of connections that's the problem, it's the memory that those open connections are using up that's the problem. Your best bet would be to limit the number of p2p connections at the client and possibly set the router to reboot 1-2 times a day to clear the memory. I'm not near my ddwrt router so I'm not sure if you can set a reboot schedule like that, but it's worth a shot.
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#3 simplyderp
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Thank you for the quick reply. Seeing that it's not really possible to limit the amount of connections in UUSEE and that my cousin sneaks P2P downloads during the day, I'm considering another option:

With DD-WRT, will I be able to monitor bandwidth from a second router that connects to the LAN port of the router connected to the modem? The new router won't be using DD-WRT or have bandwidth monitoring features so that's why the second one is being used to monitor bandwidth. I will be connected to the router directly connected to the modem. Everyone else will be using the second router, which I plan to monitor.

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#4 JigglyWiggly_
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You can pfsense for this, but it's not the easiest thing to setup. It can handle 10k+ connections, consumer routers can't even get close to this number. It also has a traffic shaper, and can severely de-prioritize p2p traffic. You have to build it yourself though, and it's open source which is good. You need 2 NIC cards. What you are trying to do is trying to create a vlan and they way you are setting it up won't work, you need a layer 3 switch for that. But a layer 3 switch is mostly a router, pfsense can create vlans as well. http://www.pfsense.com/

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#5 simplyderp
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Oh shi-

I have an old socket 939 Athlon X2 3800+ computer just collecting dust, ready to be turned into a $5000 router. I won't need to set up a vlan, since a pfense router would be far surperior to my flaky WRT54Gv6 that crashes randomly all the time or the DGL-4100 that I planned to buy. Sounds like a lot of fun and face palms!

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#6 JigglyWiggly_
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If you do it, I will be more than glad to help you out man.
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#7 Makari
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DD-WRT in particular dies -hard- under P2P-esque traffic, where even the stock firmware or Tomato wouldn't blink. I forget the exact setting because I stopped using it due to that, but it was pretty common... something like that firmware tries too hard with that kind of traffic and the processor can't handle it.