RPGs with the same style of NPC interaction as BGII?

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#1 Heinous-Uranus
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I'm still quite unfamiliar with PC games, and play only the older ones. I like RPGs w/good stories, but most of all I like that kind of interaction where the NPCs speak to me and to each other in that kind of witty way seen in Baldur's Gate II. I've tried some RPGs that have garnered wide praise, but to my disappointment, well, first of all in many RPGs you seem to play single, or your group is completely silent, or the interaction just isn't witty and funny at all.

So, are there others games (RPGs) like BGII in that aspect?

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#2 PC360Wii
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Well I guess there wont be by your standards, because BG2 was the prime of that kind of RPG.

Maybe Dragon Age next year? the Spiritual Successor to BG2 :)

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#3 dnuggs40
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Its another old game, but have you played Planescape: Torment?

Sad to say you really aren't going to find many RPG's like that today. Although I hear Mass Effect has a good story and dialog, having never played it I can't confirm though. Another one that has gotten a lot of praise was Vampire: The Masquerade. I didn't really play more then 20 mins though as the whole vampire theme was kinda lame (for me). People swear by it though.

Also, Neverwinter Nights 2 had a decent campaign. I know a lot of people hated it but I thought the story and dialog was decent.

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#4 osan0
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the only other game i can think of is baldurs gate 1. also a fantastic game. jahiera and kaleed (probably spelt wrong..its been years since i played it) were brilliant.

i kinda remember planescape torment having it also...but that might have been a dream :P.

kotor 1 and 2 kinda have somethign like ti also......but its nowhere near as good and it happens in cutscenes rather than on the fly while ure walking around.

thats all i can think of.

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#5 thusaha
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Have you tried Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal expansion?
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there is no game that features better npc interaction than vampire: the masquerade - bloodlines. plus, the game features the most interesting (and hottest) npc characters.
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the only other game i can think of is baldurs gate 1. also a fantastic game. jahiera and kaleed (probably spelt wrong..its been years since i played it) were brilliant.

i kinda remember planescape torment having it also...but that might have been a dream :P.

kotor 1 and 2 kinda have somethign like ti also......but its nowhere near as good and it happens in cutscenes rather than on the fly while ure walking around.

thats all i can think of.

osan0

Oh dear, I tried playing BG1, but had to stop playing after chapter 3, because I grew bored when the NPCs NEVER talked anything!

I mean, in addition to not initiating dialogue whilst walking, they never talked to enemies or city NPCs either.

The only time they talked was when they joined my party.

Also, I wasn't too happy about the wandering around empty wilderness...

But, does the level of interaction increase in the later chapters?

And I probably need to get myself a copy of Plancescape:Torment sometime. And try that Vampire game, never even heard of it...

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I'm still quite unfamiliar with PC games, and play only the older ones. I like RPGs w/good stories, but most of all I like that kind of interaction where the NPCs speak to me and to each other in that kind of witty way seen in Baldur's Gate II. I've tried some RPGs that have garnered wide praise, but to my disappointment, well, first of all in many RPGs you seem to play single, or your group is completely silent, or the interaction just isn't witty and funny at all.

So, are there others games (RPGs) like BGII in that aspect?

Heinous-Uranus

If your looking for an experience similar to BG2 in terms of NPC interaction, i'm sorry to say that your choices are extremely limired. In fact, nothing released past 2000 are likely to fill the void.

Your best bet is to get your hands on the BG2 expansion (throne of bhaal).

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#9 TeamR
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[QUOTE="osan0"]

the only other game i can think of is baldurs gate 1. also a fantastic game. jahiera and kaleed (probably spelt wrong..its been years since i played it) were brilliant.

i kinda remember planescape torment having it also...but that might have been a dream :P.

kotor 1 and 2 kinda have somethign like ti also......but its nowhere near as good and it happens in cutscenes rather than on the fly while ure walking around.

thats all i can think of.

Heinous-Uranus

Oh dear, I tried playing BG1, but had to stop playing after chapter 3, because I grew bored when the NPCs NEVER talked anything!

I mean, in addition to not initiating dialogue whilst walking, they never talked to enemies or city NPCs either.

Are you kidding? The NPCs in BG1 talked just as much as BG2. The original was more open ended (which I loved, personally) but otherwise it was pretty much the same game. You must have had a bad group makeup or maybe a bad install. Or you just don't remember correctly

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Knights of the Old Republic is what your looking for.. NWN2 was a disapointment with a poor story, buggy, biggest resource hog I have ever seen.. KOTOR has some of the best dialogue I have seen of all time, and the best character of all time (HK-47).
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It is a hybrid RPG, not anything like BG2 in terms of the D&D world, but Deus Ex has excellent dialogue.
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Planescape: Torment has so far had the best story and most interesting characters. There will quite probably never be anything like it made tho, considering the game had more text than the LoTR trilogy put together, twice :)
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[QUOTE="Heinous-Uranus"][QUOTE="osan0"]

the only other game i can think of is baldurs gate 1. also a fantastic game. jahiera and kaleed (probably spelt wrong..its been years since i played it) were brilliant.

i kinda remember planescape torment having it also...but that might have been a dream :P.

kotor 1 and 2 kinda have somethign like ti also......but its nowhere near as good and it happens in cutscenes rather than on the fly while ure walking around.

thats all i can think of.

TeamR

Oh dear, I tried playing BG1, but had to stop playing after chapter 3, because I grew bored when the NPCs NEVER talked anything!

I mean, in addition to not initiating dialogue whilst walking, they never talked to enemies or city NPCs either.

Are you kidding? The NPCs in BG1 talked just as much as BG2. The original was more open ended (which I loved, personally) but otherwise it was pretty much the same game. You must have had a bad group makeup or maybe a bad install. Or you just don't remember correctly

****, something must've been wrong with my program. I used it in Vista, and well, I had to install and uninstall it everytime I wanted to play it or it would crash, but I didn't know that it could affect them initiating dialogue.

Now I have an XP machine, and I'll try playing it again.

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If you are going to play Baldur's Gate 1 I highly recommend getting the EasyTutu Mod. It makes BG1 graphics the same as BG2 and it's pretty simple to install. There's also a Widescreen Mod that allows all Infinity Engine games to be played on newer widescreen monitors.

Have fun!

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Knights of the Old Republic is what your looking for.. NWN2 was a disapointment with a poor story, buggy, biggest resource hog I have ever seen.. KOTOR has some of the best dialogue I have seen of all time, and the best character of all time (HK-47).sSubZerOo

Damn I cant believe I fergot KOTOR, yup, thats a valid option.

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if u can live with npcs not talking and u have an internet connection u can wet ur hands in an online rpg like guildwars or sumthing. because i cant really think of decent rpgs like baldurs gate or kotor, meybe titan quest if ur one of those...oddballs
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#17 chesterocks7
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I can't believe nobody's mentioned the Neverwinter Night's series. They really are the successors to BG1 + 2. They definitely aren't as good as the BG, but they have the same style except in the graphics. But like others have said, BG2 really is one of the best games out there, so you won't find anything better than that.
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#18 RK-Mara
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You should definitely check out Planescape: Torment. I also recommend Fallout series even though it's not exactly what you are looking for.
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[QUOTE="osan0"]

the only other game i can think of is baldurs gate 1. also a fantastic game. jahiera and kaleed (probably spelt wrong..its been years since i played it) were brilliant.

i kinda remember planescape torment having it also...but that might have been a dream :P.

kotor 1 and 2 kinda have somethign like ti also......but its nowhere near as good and it happens in cutscenes rather than on the fly while ure walking around.

thats all i can think of.

Heinous-Uranus

Oh dear, I tried playing BG1, but had to stop playing after chapter 3, because I grew bored when the NPCs NEVER talked anything!

I mean, in addition to not initiating dialogue whilst walking, they never talked to enemies or city NPCs either.

The only time they talked was when they joined my party.

Also, I wasn't too happy about the wandering around empty wilderness...

But, does the level of interaction increase in the later chapters?

And I probably need to get myself a copy of Plancescape:Torment sometime. And try that Vampire game, never even heard of it...

ooh perhaps ive mis-interpreted ure OP. i remember BG1 having ure allies saying little things while walkign around. sometimes they would poke fun at each other and so on. however it wasnt in a cutscene or anything...it was sorta in the background and the player wouldnt necessarily have anything to do with it.

its been a long long time since i played it though...perhaps im seeing it through rose tinted glasses and maybe it didnt have as much of that as i remember.

if ure looking for the sorta personal conversations that were in BG2...KOTOR1 and 2, NWN1 and 2 (and their expansion packs)..mass effect...there are quite a few around. not as good as BG2 mind but still very good. NWN2 is stable now with the latest patch (expect alot of patching if u get it) but it requires a monster rig to run at its best. not a very well optimized game at all. quite good though imho.

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What do you consider a monster rig? My computer runs it at all very high settings @ 1680X1050. The game was horribly bugged when it first was released, but it's in very good condition now.
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#21 lordaltay1
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There are no more rpgs today like that unfortunately. I to loved Baldurs Gate's dialogue / Npc interaction.
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Mask of the Betrayer. Its the expansion to NWN2, and I specifically thought of BG2 all the time while playing it. The characters, story, setting and dialogue are absolutely fantastic. Do it. Buy it now.
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VAMPIRE BLOODLINES.
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...most of all I like that kind of interaction where the NPCs speak to me and to each other in that kind of witty way seen in Baldur's Gate II.

So, are there others games (RPGs) like BGII in that aspect?

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Neverwinter Nights 2 and its expansion Mask of the Betrayer.

the best story/character driven CRPG, however, is Planescape: Torment.

btw, if you haven't done so --> there are tons of BG2 mods, and many of them are NPC mods, some are even romance-able. All those fan-made NPCs come with banters with PC and other NPCs. some even come with sound set. and there're also banter packs, making the NPC interactions actually richer. highly recommand not leaving BG2 without trying out all these mods.

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#25 LordVanil
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Planescape: Torment is the greatest RPG ever made, period. If you liked Baldur's Gate II then try to find a copy of this wonderful, wonderful game.

~V