*rumor control* hd 7000 series specs sighted!

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#1 ionusX
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i got unconfirmed hd 7000 series specs sighted.

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-261017-1-1.html

i have jsut the single core flag and sister the 7970 and 7950 if you can get your translator working and bother to read further down their are unconfirmed hd 7850 and 7670 and 7650 as well.

in short it appears that (at leats at face value the hd 7970 is within the 30-25% superior range possibly more. it also have very low power consumption.. IF a word of this is true.

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The 7970 is only 25-30% better than the 6970? That's a letdown if true, considering how much AMD changed the architecture for the 7xxx line I was expecting something much more powerful.
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#3 FireEmblem_Man
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The 7970 is only 25-30% better than the 6970? That's a letdown if true, considering how much AMD changed the architecture for the 7xxx line I was expecting something much more powerful.gameguy6700

I don't know, looking at the wattage use does fix a lot of issues in terms of power consumption. Plus they're switching from GDDR5 to XDR2. Hopefully they'll reduce the size of the GPU. Then again, these are rumored specs

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#4 gravitygamer
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i hope the prices are as low as the power consumption...:-)
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#5 ShadowDeathX
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The 7970 is only 25-30% better than the 6970? That's a letdown if true, considering how much AMD changed the architecture for the 7xxx line I was expecting something much more powerful.gameguy6700
Southern Isles main focus was to cut down on heat and power consumption compared to Northern Isles. I'm quite surprised to see a good performance boost as well. Nvidia's next GPU series also has a main focus on cutting down on heat and power consumption.
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#6 JohnF111
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So apparently they are using Rambus memory? I remember tempest91 not long ago having a go at the PS3 for using "virtually exstinct RAM". :lol:

It's fast as hell and now it's being used in something that won't cost more to make than it sells for.

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#7 deactivated-60e799a72eb68
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I did some reading on XDR2 memory, and it's over twice as efficient supposedly. This seems like much more than a 25% increase, expecially if DX11 and scaling performance continue to improve now that more devs are using it.

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#8 TheUnkownJoker
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Here it is translated, dont take my word for it, i used google translate so there could be mistakes.

"Recently, a foreign website leaked the AMD 7000 series 8 graphics card models, specifications, including New Zealand, Tahiti and the Thames with a new generation of Graphic Core Next structure, while still using VLIW-4D Lombok old architecture. Let the following table to understand the specific situation under:

First, we see that, HD7000, code-named Southern Islands, which in turn branch into four small models, according to the performance by the strong to weak to: New Zealand, Tahiti, Thames, Lombok. One HD7990 is an upgraded version of HD6990, HD7970 to HD6970 upgraded version of the other and so on. Then these upgrades specific upgrades that? Let us look at the next table:

The HD7970 and HD6970 to compare, in the production process, from 40nm to upgrade to the 28nm, SIMD array, the number of stream processors, GPU frequency, etc. are greatly improved, even slightly lower level of the HD7950, a variety of specifications than the HD6970 much higher. In addition, HD7950 HD6970 higher in the specifications, while the power is reduced by 40%, which is focusing on energy conservation is a good friend.

AMD said the HD7000 series of graphics cards will be available later in the fourth quarter of this year, let us look forward to it."

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#9 blaznwiipspman1
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awesome news, can't wait. 25-30% boost is huge, considering how powerful the 6xxx cards already are. To put it into perspective, the 580 gtx is about 5-10% more powerful than a 6970.

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Just a quick question I was wondering about, when do new a new series of graphic cards usually come out? Is it every year or every 2+ years? Thanks!
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#11 deactivated-60e799a72eb68
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Just a quick question I was wondering about, when do new a new series of graphic cards usually come out? Is it every year or every 2+ years? Thanks!Gamerperson33
Every year usually.

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Just a quick question I was wondering about, when do new a new series of graphic cards usually come out? Is it every year or every 2+ years? Thanks!Gamerperson33

Every year.

Disappointing :\ the 5xxx > 6xxx had a similar jump too, unlike the dx11 jump where you get new features. Ill hold out until the dx12 cards than :)

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#13 ionusX
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we usuall have onem series released every summer and every winter

so your looking at around the may and november-january area.

normally the way things are done is the winter release is a bold step forward for the industry and them the may release is normally when we see a more refined product

the hd 5000 - 6000 series and gtx 400-500 series are prime examples of this.

regretably nvidia has adopted a very strange trend of refreshing their low end half way through the two normal release slots. these cards are often rebadged or slightly modified clones of cards we already have such as in the case of the gt100-300 series. it appears nvidia plan on doing this again using the gt 600 series to re-sticker the gt 540-down and perhaps shrink their fabrication process.

what this means is that the next real nvidia cards will be the gtx 700 series (kepler architecture) while the 600 series is just the gt 540, 530, 525, 520 and 510 in new boxes with new stickers and slightly less heat generation and power consumption. and as history shows us the low end fermis suck eggs in camparison to amd's low end offering.

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#14 gmaster456
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The 7970 is only 25-30% better than the 6970? That's a letdown if true, considering how much AMD changed the architecture for the 7xxx line I was expecting something much more powerful.gameguy6700
Thats actually a pretty solid boost. What were you expecting?
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#15 ionusX
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]The 7970 is only 25-30% better than the 6970? That's a letdown if true, considering how much AMD changed the architecture for the 7xxx line I was expecting something much more powerful.gmaster456
Thats actually a pretty solid boost. What were you expecting?

40+

smaller, cheaper, faster, more reliable and all that jazz. this is the law of technology as it evolves it will always do these things to what extent though is the suprise we sit n wait for.

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decent boost there. I bet my 570 will last years though, unless some miracle occurs where games take advantage of all this crazy hardware

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#17 Bikouchu35
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decent boost there. I bet my 570 will last years though, unless some miracle occurs where games take advantage of all this crazy hardware

wis3boi

One can dream of the roadmap being true.

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I don't think games will be able to match the Maxwell cards for awhile if it is that damn good. It should last you years.
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#19 ionusX
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I don't think games will be able to match the Maxwell cards for awhile if it is that damn good. It should last you years. LordsLoss

kepler before maxwell.. maxwell is easily 2 years off.

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#20 tequilasunriser
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I don't think games will be able to match the Maxwell cards for awhile if it is that damn good. It should last you years. LordsLoss
They're never as good as the charts lead them on to be. Even if it is a revolutionary leap the competition with catch up to meet or exceed it pretty quick.
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#21 blaznwiipspman1
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yah...if nvidia has maxwell then AMD will have the 14000 series that will either match or beat it. Nothing will change, well at least lets hope not.

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

decent boost there. I bet my 570 will last years though, unless some miracle occurs where games take advantage of all this crazy hardware

Bikouchu35

One can dream of the roadmap being true.

GFLOPs per watt is not an indication of the performance though. For all we know they might just lower the watt usage way down while only getting a slight increase in GFLOPs because of that. And GFLOP comparisons are not always comparable it is especially irrelevant when comparing an Nvidia to AMD card.
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#23 RyviusARC
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[QUOTE="LordsLoss"]I don't think games will be able to match the Maxwell cards for awhile if it is that damn good. It should last you years. ionusX

kepler before maxwell.. maxwell is easily 2 years off.

Nvidia already stated that Maxwell will not be released until 2014. So the 2 year guess is probably correct.
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#24 wis3boi
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and what use is all that supposed power if games cant even keep up in the advance. I really hope the next gen for consoles starts soon, gaming is stagnating too much, maybe it will usher in a new wave of DX11/12 titles

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#25 LordsLoss
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I was just thinking ahead! I'll probably buy a Kepler mid next year if it is a huge improvment.
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#26 Bikouchu35
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GFLOPs per watt is not an indication of the performance though. For all we know they might just lower the watt usage way down while only getting a slight increase in GFLOPs because of that. And GFLOP comparisons are not always comparable it is especially irrelevant when comparing an Nvidia to AMD card.RyviusARC

AMD and Nvidia seems to go hand and hand with performance tech, if one leads here than the other will try to follow or exceed. As far as the chart, it looks pretty darn impressive with 8x!! increase over fermi ~roughly unless Nv plans to release ultra low watt cards, derp.

I seriously doubt theyll show a chart for the sole purpose of boasting their energy effiency especially when their consumers want performance over being green, hurr ironic.

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#27 LordsLoss
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@ Bikouchu Yea I know. I want raw power over this "being green" deal.
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The 7970 is only 25-30% better than the 6970? That's a letdown if true, considering how much AMD changed the architecture for the 7xxx line I was expecting something much more powerful.gameguy6700
Where do you draw this 25% - 30% conclusion?
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#29 LordEC911
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It's fake...

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#30 covertgamer78
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30% rumor is disappointing. We were seeing double performance increase annually b4 the HD 6xxx/GTX 5xx series came out with the same nm production process due to fab problems.
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#31 swehunt
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30% rumor is disappointing. We were seeing double performance increase annually b4 the HD 6xxx/GTX 5xx series came out with the same nm production process due to fab problems.covertgamer78
No we didn't. the real performance difference is usally 15-30% per pu from amd and Nvidia, sometimes there isn't a performance increase. Remember Fermi? while having another architecture being more scalable than the GT200 the F100 still could be stronger even if it was on pair per pu. You guy's thinking the efficiency on a "GPU" has anything to do with the actual performance difference within the PU? A HD5870 uses almighty 1600shader Pu's, The HD6870 only use 1200 shader pu's, while performing quite near eachother we quickly understand the difference between each shader is ~20%. Perhaps the HD7xxx will be able to scale much better since it's on a smaller nm process, imagine a GPU with 2800pu's each one 20% faster than the HD6xxx series PU! So what I am saying, 10-30% can mean alot more than 30% faster framerate than HD6xxx series top card, the info whe have today actually tells nothing about the performance if it's not mentioned specificly.