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My most anticipated games are Saints Row III, Skyrim, Uncharted 3, and Mass Effect 3. But out of these games Saints Row takes the prize and I am literally just counting down the minutes to its release.
I came across this video preview and thought other Saonts Row fans would like it. Enjoy.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-saints-row/722672?
P.S.- " A F*****G TIGER!!"- SR MC
It looks like SO much fun. I have a lot of games to play around now, but I think I need to make some time for Saints Row 3 co-op. Last dev vid I watched was fantastic... there's just so much unique interaction in the game, from the ridiculous unarmed combat styles and wrestling moves, to the over-the-top vehicles, and all the weapons... looks great.
SR2 PC version was literally a console port, just the X360 code wrapped in emulator code so it could run on PC, but that's because it was not an in-house port, but rather the PC version of SR2 was made by CD Projekt(the guys that brought us TWitcher 2) so blame them. Red Faction 4: Armageddon, a game running on Geomod 2.5, an engine that makes Frostbite 2.0 tremble and Cryengine 3.0 cry for mercy, runs perfectly on PC without a hitch and even on modest hardware, and all the cpu usage is simply due to the extensive calculations required to enable its real time arbitrary physics behaviors and the optimization is unheard of, and surprise surprise, the PC version was done in-house by Volition, Inc. Oh, and it has been confirmed for a long time that SR3 will also have an in-house PC version. Again: SR2 PC version = port running X360 code via emulator done by CD Projekt who did a terrible job. RF4 PC version = runs natively on PC made by Volition, Inc., one of the most well optimized games on PC and in fact scored higher than X360/PS3 versions. SR3 PC version = runs natively on PC, will have mod tools and theater mode exclusive to PC, and of course, made my Volition, Inc. :PI really want to believe but SR2 has put a sour taste in my mouth. Gonna needs to see reviews and performance feedback on this one for PC.
VeryBumpy
i was hyped about this game but they are gonna DLC whore the hell out of it... i dont use cheats anymore.. but this is how much they are gonna WHORE this game.... it's been confirmed by THQ/Volition (dont have the link look on saintsrow forums) that CHEATS of all things are gonna be a PAYED DLC.... i mean on PC we can use Trainers if we want to cheat... again i haven't cheated since the up up down down left right left rigth a b a b days.... but somethign that has always been free they are gonna juice people for....
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/716184/saints-row-3-dlc-40-weeks-of-additions-planned/
http://videogamewriters.com/thq-get-ready-for-40-weeks-of-saints-row-3-dlc-23158
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/08/thq-ceo-talks-up-cloud-gaming-plans-40-weeks-of-saints-row-3-dl/
http://www.destructoid.com/saints-row-the-third-to-get-40-weeks-of-dlc-210977.phtml
canceled my pre-order...i'll wait for them to release SE/CE/GOTY with all the DLCs in it rather then getting juiced for full price of the "incomplete" game then getting juiced for allt he DLC's ...lots of other games comming out to hold me over untill then.... as much as i want to pre-order and play day one...i just cant' stop shaking my head over BS like this....i want to support the game company but... stuff like this makes me want to YAAArrrr Me maty and send the game company a 50$ pizza card =p they'd get more out of it then the publishers would give them =p
Fair enough, but it's not like the game doesn't run without any DLC, which is what doesn't make sense. Usually if you don't buy DLC you're not missing out on anything, and they're usually very tiny additions to the experience if anything. I pre-ordered the game on PC and even though it gives me 3 extra DLC missions, I really only care for the core experience of SR3, it's a sandbox game after all, although it would be nice if they gave PC gamers a deal like they did with Red Faction 3: Guerrilla where the DLC were free for PC users(even for those that bought it recently on sale at $5) while console gamers had to pay for it.Wow, are you freaking kidding me?! Was going to preorder, not any more. DLC is the cancer of gaming. Will wait for a complete GOTY version instead.
VeryBumpy
[QUOTE="VeryBumpy"]Fair enough, but it's not like the game doesn't run without any DLC, which is what doesn't make sense. Usually if you don't buy DLC you're not missing out on anything, and they're usually very tiny additions to the experience if anything. I pre-ordered the game on PC and even though it gives me 3 extra DLC missions, I really only care for the core experience of SR3, it's a sandbox game after all, although it would be nice if they gave PC gamers a deal like they did with Red Faction 3: Guerrilla where the DLC were free for PC users(even for those that bought it recently on sale at $5) while console gamers had to pay for it. because if history of this is tell us anything it is that when companies DLC whore their games and plan on doing it ahead of time they more often then not cut original game content in order to sell it to you ... also more often then not they also offer full dlc games later on in special/collector/goty editions... at a far lower cost then the sum total... if you had bought he original game + all the dlcs as they came out ... i find this business model wrong and i will be more then happy to just buy the game when it is "complete" later on...they CONFIRMED they are gonna sell people CHEATS i mean common ... how EFFING more could you juice people... again as stated before i haven't cheated since my NES/SNES days.. i no longer find it fun... but cheats have as far as i know ALWAYS been free until now... if such petty nickle and diming sits ok with you ... i have a toll bridge to sell you and prime Florida land with indications of crude oil under neathWow, are you freaking kidding me?! Was going to preorder, not any more. DLC is the cancer of gaming. Will wait for a complete GOTY version instead.
Zubinen
[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="VeryBumpy"]Fair enough, but it's not like the game doesn't run without any DLC, which is what doesn't make sense. Usually if you don't buy DLC you're not missing out on anything, and they're usually very tiny additions to the experience if anything. I pre-ordered the game on PC and even though it gives me 3 extra DLC missions, I really only care for the core experience of SR3, it's a sandbox game after all, although it would be nice if they gave PC gamers a deal like they did with Red Faction 3: Guerrilla where the DLC were free for PC users(even for those that bought it recently on sale at $5) while console gamers had to pay for it. because if history of this is tell us anything it is that when companies DLC whore their games and plan on doing it ahead of time they more often then not cut original game content in order to sell it to you ... also more often then not they also offer full dlc games later on in special/collector/goty editions... at a far lower cost then the sum total... if you had bought he original game + all the dlcs as they came out ... i find this business model wrong and i will be more then happy to just buy the game when it is "complete" later on...they CONFIRMED they are gonna sell people CHEATS i mean common ... how EFFING more could you juice people... again as stated before i haven't cheated since my NES/SNES days.. i no longer find it fun... but cheats have as far as i know ALWAYS been free until now... if such petty nickle and diming sits ok with you ... i have a toll bridge to sell you and prime Florida land with indications of crude oil under neath Again you're making the suggestion that you, or possibly other people as well are completely helpless to not buy DLC. You have a little squishy thing inside your head called a brain, don't you? Use it, see that DLC is generally not worth it, and don't buy the DLC, it's that simple. As for content being cut out, I don't see the big deal, they're just little missions and outfits that really have no affect on the core gameplay, which I assume is what the focus would be for a sandbox game... Sure the DLC generates some money but games are becoming increasingly more difficult to sell nowadays and if the fans of a game are willing to buy DLC, why shouldn't the developers make it? Video games are under the system of capitalism, don't think there's anyone making AAA titles that doesn't want to get as much profit out of their product as possible. As I said, you're not being forced to buy DLC, and there aren't many instances where you can say you're missing out if you don't buy DLC for a game.Wow, are you freaking kidding me?! Was going to preorder, not any more. DLC is the cancer of gaming. Will wait for a complete GOTY version instead.
nesproc
im reinstalling SR2 through steam right now, is there any fix for the crappy driving stutter? and general performance? id love to actually play it
(not to go completely offtopic but)i belive the gentalmen of saints row mod fixes alot of PC issues.. i personaly haven't tried it ...also steam has updates the secrom version doesn't (thanks ../. THQ(who owns Volition) between the extra patch and the mod should be a noticable differance
im reinstalling SR2 through steam right now, is there any fix for the crappy driving stutter? and general performance? id love to actually play it
icyseanfitz
[QUOTE="nesproc"][QUOTE="Zubinen"] Because the game without DLC is just about the same thing and even without DLC it has far more to offer than any game similar to it? Because I care about having fun not having extra DLC outfits? I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand. Just Cause 2 had tons of DLC but all of it could be ignored for the fact it's a massive sandbox game with tons of things to do. I'm sorry, DLC is here to stay and wherever there is a strong AAA title, there will be DLC, or DLC for its sequel, get use to it. For a linear action game, yes I understand that could be a valid complaint in some cases(and in many it's not) but for a sandbox game, no.Zubineni'm not talking about outfits i don't care about either... i'm talking about there are 3 confirms mission dlcs atleast ... you sure they didn't cut they just to sell them to you?... and how much more can you nickle and dime people by adding a paid DLC cheat package ... if that is a hint of it .. i can with out much doubt in my mind conclude they did cut game content just to sell it ... more then one company has taken this path (cutting original game content just to sell it to you)... if they want to do that i'll buy the game when it's complete.. if your happy getting nickle and dimed that's your choice... "i''m not sure what's so difficult to understand" Well clearly you do care for DLC, which generally amount to side quests or side story at best, i.e, they're more like "delete scenes" than good parts cut out intentionally so it's quite wrong to call the experience you'd have with the game at launch "incomplete" as it's like saying watching The Dark Knight in theaters is an incomplete experience because you don't see the deleted scenes, and for people like you, sure, it's fine to buy the GOTY edition with all the DLC wrapped in one, I'm merely saying that from my previous experience, as well as seeing what the DLC looks like via videos and from friends for various games, I've never once felt the urge to buy DLC. In my case, I'd simply tell you, I probably won't even finish the campaign of SR3 anytime soon because I'll be too busy enjoying the completely unscripted and random behaviors(which easily distinguish it from some more scripted sandbox games) handled by the engine and playing in coop.
going by history of companies that plan on DLC whoring their games before they are released... yes INCOMPLETE(when you take something away from the whole it is no longer complete) ... more then one company has cut original content just to sell it as DLC
http://playingwiththebb.blogspot.com/2011/07/dlc-should-burn-in-hell.htmlhttp://www.lo-ping.org/2011/05/04/guild-wars-2-cutting-content-for-dlc/http://kotaku.com/5129215/tomb-raider-underword-dlc-was-meant-to-be-in-original-gameDLC has long been criticized for merely being content that was cut from the original game, then released later in order to boost the bank balance at the expense of the lowly gamer. These aren't unfounded accusations and this is frequently the case, like the DLC from Assassin's Creed II. Developers are working to rigorous deadlines and it's not surprising that many ideas or missions have to get shelved in order for the story to flow and the game to get shipped on time. What's not so understandable is then making us fork out for content that actually already exists, but just didn't make it into the final cut. It's like making someone a sandwich and missing out the butter, only to make them pay for it once they've already eaten half the sandwich. It's stupid. Just like that analogy.
as long as people let it go on soon games with come in a blank world with nothing in it and you have to DLC the entire game.... but it's not a business model i want to support... i'm happy with buying the game when complete in a SE/CE/GOTY edition...
if i make a pie then take away 2 peices .... is that pie still whole?
if i then sell those 2 peices back to you is that pie whole now?
or
if i make a pie then sell you the whole pie is that the whole pie?
THQ (owners of Volition not just thier publishers) have been planning on DLC whoring this game since it was still in production.... if history of companies who do this tells us anything it's that they cut stuff just to sell it back to you (if you take something away from the whole it is no longer complete(not incomplete as in unplayable) this is a businiess model i do not support clearly....if companies had it their way i have no doubt you would get a blank game and have to DLC the whole thing....want legs .05c! a city will cost you 5$... i have no problems with companies wanting to make money or make DLCs ... i do have a problem with them planning on doing it before the game has even dropped because more often then not they cut original content to sell it to you .... it might not be anything major or noticable.... but its the point... why should buy the incomplete version when i can buy the complete version later on ... lots of games to hold me over till then...(google THQ DLC) (do you really think they DLC's CO-OP in spacemarine to give it away for free or that they gave it away for free becasue of the pressure to give it away for free?) greed is predictable....it's clear we see this from different views and we're not going to change our views on this... so we'll have to agree to disagree on this 8)
if they make a dozen cookies and give them to you... then someone else makes two more cookies, then another makes one more cookie, did you not get 'all' your dozen cookies when you first took them? that's what is going on. from what you're saying - why shouldn't you get every sequel for a game you buy for free, too? they could've just not been lazy and included the extra 20 hours of gameplay from the sequel in the original game! disagree with the pricing or the entire idea of DLC, sure, but recognize that it is normally going to be something *extra.* if it were not being made/sold as DLC, for the most part it just wouldn't exist. it would be the content that was flat-out cut from the game to make release. it might have found its way into an expansion pack, if one were to be made. remember ToEE? more recently, Dragon Age or DXHR? all of those games had significant areas that were originally planned to be in the game, but were flat-out wiped from the game. in the case of the recent DXHR and Dragon Age, both of them even got DLC - but the DLC wasn't the cut content, no - that stuff was just plain gone from the game, except for traces of maps, files and recorded audio that hint at what was originally planned.if i make a pie then take away 2 peices .... is that pie still whole?
if i then sell those 2 peices back to you is that pie whole now?
or
if i make a pie then sell you the whole pie is that the whole pie?
THQ (owners of Volition not just thier publishers) have been planning on DLC whoring this game since it was still in production.... if history of companies who do this tells us anything it's that they cut stuff just to sell it back to you (if you take something away from the whole it is no longer complete(not incomplete as in unplayable) this is a businiess model i do not support clearly....if companies had it their way i have no doubt you would get a blank game and have to DLC the whole thing....want legs .05c! a city will cost you 5$... i have no problems with companies wanting to make money or make DLCs ... i do have a problem with them planning on doing it before the game has even dropped because more often then not they cut original content to sell it to you .... it might not be anything major or noticable.... but its the point... why should buy the incomplete version when i can buy the complete version later on ... lots of games to hold me over till then...(google THQ DLC) (do you really think they DLC's CO-OP in spacemarine to give it away for free or that they gave it away for free becasue of the pressure to give it away for free?) greed is predictable....it's clear we see this from different views and we're not going to change our views on this... so we'll have to agree to disagree on this 8)
nesproc
Makari as i said to Zubinen
it's clear we see this from different views and we're not going to change our views on this... so we'll have to agree to disagree on this 8)nesproc
I always wondered why economics was worthwhile to study(the basics of). Anyway, it's rare to see a game combine strong gameplay with the sort of fluff that made people overlook the not so strong gameplay of Fallout 3: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/10/purple-n-pimpin-the-saints-are-back/Zubinen
good read... i've always enjoyed the simularirties and differences between gta and sr series (to some fans of each game you can only be fan of one or the other(i laugh at them for not enjoying both) and i can see how fallout influenced them with the leveling/upgrade system... even though SR2 was horrid on the PC i still enjoyed it(when i wasn't cursing at it) ... i'm sure once i do get SR:TT i will enjoy it
good read... i've always enjoyed the simularirties and differences between gta and sr series (to some fans of each game you can only be fan of one or the other(i laugh at them for not enjoying both) and i can see how fallout influenced them with the leveling/upgrade system... even though SR2 was horrid on the PC i still enjoyed it(when i wasn't cursing at it) ... i'm sure once i do get SR:TT i will enjoy itnesprocIt's like I always say with pick-up-and-play game series such as Saints Row, Red Faction, Dead Rising, Just Cause,etc., they're games focused only on gameplay so you don't really miss out on anything by purchasing them later, whereas with a game like Portal for example, you'd feel rather embarrassed to scream "the cake is a lie!" when everyone is already tired of the saying. Also on the note of SR's visuals, they'll likely be a lot better on PC as we've seen with the entire Red Faction series and much like Valve, Volition, Inc. tends to focus on getting "perfect" AA and a minimal loss of frames not to mention RF1(2001) had better geometry detail in many areas than what we see in the " PC graphics king" game BF3. Anyway, I do think Makari did mention something worth noting, the DLC is made by a separate team from the team that creates the game engine and main game which game journalists end up reviewing, but if you want the goty edition, that's fine.
Makari as i said to Zubinennesprocyeah, i know - i understand that you 'feel' like they're doing that, i just wanted you to understand that it's definitely not what happens. :P i'm a big fan of educated decisions with this stuff, and when the different view is based on an opinion that's factually incorrect, it's.. arghhh. if you do want to get mad, get mad at the pricing model or not rolling these into single expansion packs or leaving it for sequels or something instead, as i said! at least that one actually happens, and has a chance at shifting or changing (though i'd note it's spectacularly unlikely by now, haha). as far as the second half/read goes - heck yeah. :D that is pretty much what i liked about SR2, though i played it on my 360 instead coop. it is interesting to note how much of it happened by accident, too.
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