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#1 enriK233
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http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/11/22/sandy-bridge-pricing-leaks-sweden/

i was hoping the 2500 would be $200... but i was wondering if the prices will be cheaper in the US? (newegg)

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#2 ravenguard90
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http://www.semiaccurate.com

enriK233

Stopped reading there. Anything from that site is pure speculation and mostly biased articles. The stuff they publish is worth less than garbage, imo, so don't bother reading too much into whatever you saw.

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I'm not very informed on this new generation of CPUs. What will be the difference between these and the current i5s and i7s? Are they hexacores? Also, will they be using new sockets?

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#4 wklzip
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Those will be great prices! :)

I'm not very informed on this new generation of CPUs. What will be the difference between these and the current i5s and i7s? Are they hexacores? Also, will they be using new sockets?

BluRayHiDef
Those are quad's, they will feature an igp with the cpu. And they are using new sockets.
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#5 BluRayHiDef
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Those will be great prices! :) [QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I'm not very informed on this new generation of CPUs. What will be the difference between these and the current i5s and i7s? Are they hexacores? Also, will they be using new sockets?

wklzip

Those are quad's, they will feature an igp with the cpu. And they are using new sockets.

What is an igp? Also, how much more efficient and powerful will they be compared to the current i5s and i7s?

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#6 wklzip
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[QUOTE="wklzip"]Those will be great prices! :) [QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I'm not very informed on this new generation of CPUs. What will be the difference between these and the current i5s and i7s? Are they hexacores? Also, will they be using new sockets?

BluRayHiDef

Those are quad's, they will feature an igp with the cpu. And they are using new sockets.

What is an igp? Also, how much more efficient and powerful will they be compared to the current i5s and i7s?

Its basically an integrated gpu with a cpu. They are not that much faster clock per clock, but they are much more power efficient. And some overclock like champs. For example the i7 2600k achieved 5ghz on air.
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#7 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="wklzip"] Those are quad's, they will feature an igp with the cpu. And they are using new sockets.wklzip

What is an igp? Also, how much more efficient and powerful will they be compared to the current i5s and i7s?

Its basically an integrated gpu with a cpu. They are not that much faster clock per clock, but they are much more power efficient. And some overclock like champs. For example the i7 2600k achieved 5ghz on air.

Will the integrated GPU be able to assist a stand-alone GPU in games? If so, will it be able to render PhysX for people who have ATI cards?

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[QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

What is an igp? Also, how much more efficient and powerful will they be compared to the current i5s and i7s?

BluRayHiDef

Its basically an integrated gpu with a cpu. They are not that much faster clock per clock, but they are much more power efficient. And some overclock like champs. For example the i7 2600k achieved 5ghz on air.

Will the integrated GPU be able to assist a stand-alone GPU in games? If so, will it be able to render PhysX for people who have ATI cards?

PhysX = Nvidia

Intel != Nvidia

Also, they are just replacing the midrange with these things, they are supposedly a little more powerful clock for clock than current i7s but have better power efficiency.

I don't know for sure, but my best guess would be that IGP stands for Integrated Graphics Processor.


And the ones on sandy bridge are kinda weak.

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#9 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="wklzip"] Its basically an integrated gpu with a cpu. They are not that much faster clock per clock, but they are much more power efficient. And some overclock like champs. For example the i7 2600k achieved 5ghz on air.NailedGR

Will the integrated GPU be able to assist a stand-alone GPU in games? If so, will it be able to render PhysX for people who have ATI cards?

PhysX = Nvidia

Intel != Nvidia

I know, but I've heard of people using their CPUs to assist with PhysX when they don't have Nvidia cards. Even though the performance is pretty bad in such cases, it is possible.

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[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Will the integrated GPU be able to assist a stand-alone GPU in games? If so, will it be able to render PhysX for people who have ATI cards?

BluRayHiDef

PhysX = Nvidia

Intel != Nvidia

I know, but I've heard of people using their CPUs to assist with PhysX when they don't have Nvidia cards. Even though the performance is pretty bad in such cases, it is possible.

You can have PhysX on your ATI card with a spare NVidia card during the work but you need modded drivers which may not be particularly stable. Even a qaud core CPU will be pushed by enabling PhysX.

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#11 swehunt
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="wklzip"] Those are quad's, they will feature an igp with the cpu. And they are using new sockets.wklzip

What is an igp? Also, how much more efficient and powerful will they be compared to the current i5s and i7s?

Its basically an integrated gpu with a cpu. They are not that much faster clock per clock, but they are much more power efficient. And some overclock like champs. For example the i7 2600k achieved 5ghz on air.

From what little iv'e seen the new SB is a fair bit faster clock for clock, this is a much better performing architecture over the current core i. Big diffrence is the IGP ofcource, this is an ondie compared to the CPU+GPU on the same heatspreader in the todays core i series CPU's. The k i assume stand for the unlocked multipler as the BE got, this is a welcome move as they're not intended to retail at near Extreme prices.
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#12 BluRayHiDef
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...Even a qaud core CPU will be pushed by enabling PhysX.

desertpython

Which is why I asked if the new Sandy Bridge chips will be able to render PhysX well, since they (unlike the current chips) have integrated GPUs.

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#13 desertpython
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[QUOTE="desertpython"]

...Even a qaud core CPU will be pushed by enabling PhysX.

BluRayHiDef

Which is why I asked if the new Sandy Bridge chips will be able to render PhysX well, since they (unlike the current chips) have integrated GPUs.

Probably not. If you take Mafia 2, your FPS would drop close to half if you turned PhysX up on a 965. The tech works best with Nvidia card(s).

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#14 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="desertpython"]

...Even a qaud core CPU will be pushed by enabling PhysX.

desertpython

Which is why I asked if the new Sandy Bridge chips will be able to render PhysX well, since they (unlike the current chips) have integrated GPUs.

Probably not. If you take Mafia 2, your FPS would drop close to half if you turned PhysX up on a 965. The tech works best with Nvidia card(s).

So, what good will these integrated GPUs do? What are they intended for?

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#15 wklzip
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[QUOTE="desertpython"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Which is why I asked if the new Sandy Bridge chips will be able to render PhysX well, since they (unlike the current chips) have integrated GPUs.

BluRayHiDef

Probably not. If you take Mafia 2, your FPS would drop close to half if you turned PhysX up on a 965. The tech works best with Nvidia card(s).

So, what good will these integrated GPUs do? What are they intended for?

They are for people who do not have a dedicated graphic card and only use the computer for web surfing or very light gaming.
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#16 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="desertpython"]

Probably not. If you take Mafia 2, your FPS would drop close to half if you turned PhysX up on a 965. The tech works best with Nvidia card(s).

wklzip

So, what good will these integrated GPUs do? What are they intended for?

They are for people who do not have a dedicated graphic card and only use the computer for web surfing or very light gaming.

So, for gaming, these CPUs won't offer much (if any) increased performance for people with dedicated graphics cards?

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#17 desertpython
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[QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

So, what good will these integrated GPUs do? What are they intended for?

BluRayHiDef

They are for people who do not have a dedicated graphic card and only use the computer for web surfing or very light gaming.

So, for gaming, these CPUs won't offer much (if any) increased performance for people with dedicated graphics cards?

No. You might be thinking of AMD's version of Crossfire where you can add the slow IGP to a slow dedicated card which is rather pointless, but the option is there.

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So, for gaming, these CPUs won't offer much (if any) increased performance for people with dedicated graphics cards?

BluRayHiDef

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row/11

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So, for gaming, these CPUs won't offer much (if any) increased performance for people with dedicated graphics cards?

BluRayHiDef

They are, roughly, around 15% faster for the model it replaces of the previous generation... Which is decent. But they are also around 8-10% lower in power consumption. Which equates to about 30 - 35% more processing power per watt. THAT is pretty huge. It means potentially pretty high overclocking from a much cooler CPU.

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#20 Hekynn
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I'll stick with 1156 cpus better price etc.
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#21 XaosII
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I'll stick with 1156 cpus better price etc.Hekynn

1156 will be deprecated once socket 2011 comes out in Q3-Q4 of next year.

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[QUOTE="Hekynn"]I'll stick with 1156 cpus better price etc.XaosII

1156 will be deprecated once socket 2011 comes out in Q3-Q4 of next year.

haha, is it really going to be called socket 2011?

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Isn't it socket 1155?

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#24 swehunt
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Isn't it socket 1155?

entropyecho
Yes, and it's for release with the sandybridge. 2011 is a later release.
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#25 swehunt
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I'll stick with 1156 cpus better price etc.Hekynn
s1155 is the next socket witch will overtake s1156's position.
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socket 2011 will arrive Q4 2011

Socket 1155 will arrive Q1 2011 (sandy bridge)

sandy bridge will overclock to 5Ghz on air with the K models

it has an on-board GPU which is as powerful as a 5450

it uses a very small amount of power

it uses a new type of turboboost which is better

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the socket B2 2011 will arrive after Zambezi (AMD Codenamed bulldozer) but i expect a benchmark leak on real performances of those 2011 : Altough the current LGA 1155 SandyBridge are aimed as mid-end desktop there 5GHZ Core i7 2600K Im not sure if it will surpass core i7 920/930/950 OC to 3.9/4.1/4.3Ghz By Allot I can't wait to see Zambezi/Bulldozer highest end cpu overclocked perform versus Phenom II X4 / X6 OC :P

Right now I'm not very impressed if you compare E8400 4.0Ghz Vs Phenom II X4 965 4.0Ghz Vs Core i7 930 OC 4.3Ghz There hardly a difference in bunch of game at 1920x1200 all that seem to matter is The VIDEO CARD[GPU] So I hope the new Generation Do Same STuff that did happen Every 2-4 Year as Big change of CPU RAW Power & Gaming Power

as if you compare 2007 CPU Intel Pentium D LGA 775 / Athelon X2 Socket Am2 The Differential in RAW POWER ARE MASSIVE with current Generation of CPU I hope to see same stuff and not have to wait 2012-2013 for see that to happen:roll: else il just stick with A GPU UPGRADE :P Can't wait HD6970 Benchmark

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the socket B2 2011 will arrive after Zambei (AMD Codenamed bulldozer) but i expect a benchmark leak on real performances of those 2011 : Altough the current LGA 1155 SandyBridge are aimed as mid-end desktop there 5GHZ Core i7 2600K Im not sure if it will surpass core i7 920/930/950 OC to 3.9/4.1/4.3Ghz By Allot I can't wait to see Zambei highest end cpu overclcoekd perform versus Phenom II X4 / X6 OC :P I'm not very impressed if you compare E8400 4.0Ghz Vs Phenom II X4 965 4.0Ghz Vs Core i7 930 OC 4.3Ghz There hardly a difference in bunch of game at 1920x1200 all that seem to matter is gpu So I hope the new Generation did repeat the History Of the Past where CPU Every 2-4 Year as Big change of CPU RAW Power as if you compare 2007 AMD Athelon X2 (Am2) Or IntelPentium D Vs AMD Phenom II X4 955 OC to 3.8Ghz vs Intel Core i7 920 OC 4.0Ghz The Differential in RAW POWER ARE MASSIVE :P I hope to see same stuff and not have to wait 2012-2013 for see that to happen :Pmarcthpro

Zambezi