Screw this, im ordering a 5850.

I was gonna wait until the 470s are released but after looking at the benchmarks and seeing how the 470 and 5850's performance compared to each other, I've come to the realization that they're are mostly equal. So, if that's the case, why should I wait for the 470 and pay more? Im gonna order a 5850 right now with one day shipping from newegg. Do you guys have any recommendations towards any specific brands? Is dirt 2 still bundled with the new card? Also, when I play games with physx, will the effects still be there with the ati card present? And, if so, seeing as ati isn't enable to run physx, will the load be dumped to my cpu?

I was gonna wait until the 470s are released but after looking at the benchmarks and seeing how the 470 and 5850's performance compared to each other, I've come to the realization that they're are mostly equal. So, if that's the case, why should I wait for the 470 and pay more? Im gonna order a 5850 right now with one day shipping from newegg. Do you guys have any recommendations towards any specific brands? Is dirt 2 still bundled with the new card? Also, when I play games with physx, will the effects still be there with the ati card present? And, if so, seeing as ati isn't enable to run physx, will the load be dumped to my cpu?

yukilla

I'd recommend either XFX or Sapphire. I don't know if Dirt 2 is still bundled with the card..the newegg listing for the specific card should have that info. If you play games with PhysX, no.. you will not have those effects. I don't personally think it's a big deal.. obviously alot of Nvidia users would disagree.

I'd recommend either XFX or Sapphire. I don't know if Dirt 2 is still bundled with the card..the newegg listing for the specific card should have that info. If you play games with PhysX, no.. you will not have those effects. I don't personally think it's a big deal.. obviously alot of Nvidia users would disagree.hartsickdiscipl

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]I'd recommend either XFX or Sapphire. I don't know if Dirt 2 is still bundled with the card..the newegg listing for the specific card should have that info. If you play games with PhysX, no.. you will not have those effects. I don't personally think it's a big deal.. obviously alot of Nvidia users would disagree.smc91352

WHOO! I CAME AT THE RIGHT TIME. I was just gonna buy the card, now I'll buy the card and some new games!!!

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]I'd recommend either XFX or Sapphire. I don't know if Dirt 2 is still bundled with the card..the newegg listing for the specific card should have that info. If you play games with PhysX, no.. you will not have those effects. I don't personally think it's a big deal.. obviously alot of Nvidia users would disagree.smc91352

That's the deal of the day. Great find.

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

somegtalover

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

somegtalover

Yeah, cause you're totally an unbiased party.

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

somegtalover

Nvidia is better but this time around, they're better by a small margin. And, their new cards require more power and puts out more heat. I love nvidia, but for this season, they've lost me. If ATI screws me over with their drivers, I'll come crawling back to nvidia next time.

Hey, is there a 64 ATI driver for my Vista 64?

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

Phoenix534

Yeah, cause you're totally an unbiased party.

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

somegtalover

Which is pretty much terrible in the long run, both on wallet and the card itself.

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

somegtalover

Fermi-- The Way it's Meant to be Cooked.

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

hartsickdiscipl

Fermi-- The Way it's Meant to be Cooked.

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played..

somegtalover

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

millerlight89

Fermi-- The Way it's Meant to be Cooked.

Yeah.. I'll run the TWKR overclocked on air along with a GTX 480. That way I'll have the hottest, most unstable system possible.

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played..

Angry_Mushroom

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

somegtalover

as for Cuda not many people even use that except for the big companies.

The way PhysX is used in games to date makes it so if you use PhysX it looks cool. but if you turn PhysX off you dont really Miss it because it dosent do anything to the game itself to make it really be needed

My friend plays alot of "nvidia enhanced" games on his ATI card and he gets great FPS.

better drivers? thats more of an opinion than a fact.

bragging rights? for what? the most expensive card on the market that is barley even that good? (bad/good/great) its right in the middle. i would add Kick ass but this isnt 3d game man.

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

hofuldig

[QUOTE="hofuldig"]

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

FUBAR24

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"]

[QUOTE="hofuldig"] Remove 3D vision from that bit there. to even be able to use 3D vision you need 2 Video cards in SLI and from what i can tell the TC only wants one card.millerlight89

I've just completed my order for the XFX radeon hd 5850. It should be here by friday.

I've just completed my order for the XFX radeon hd 5850. It should be here by friday.

yukilla

[QUOTE="yukilla"]

I've just completed my order for the XFX radeon hd 5850. It should be here by friday.

millerlight89

Oh, I will. My copies of Metro 2033, BFBC2, and Stalker CoP are waiting for that glorious day. This card will be paired up with my Phenom II X4 940. Finally, some high-end gaming for me.

i thought i read and heard from many sites that to even use Nvidia's 3d Vision you need to have 3 monitors and 2 video cards to power them. perhaps its just that you need 2 video cards to power 3 monitors

i thought i read and heard from many sites that to even use Nvidia's 3d Vision you need to have 3 monitors and 2 video cards to power them. perhaps its just that you need 2 video cards to power 3 monitors

hofuldig

i thought i read and heard from many sites that to even use Nvidia's 3d Vision you need to have 3 monitors and 2 video cards to power them. perhaps its just that you need 2 video cards to power 3 monitors

hofuldig

i thought i read and heard from many sites that to even use Nvidia's 3d Vision you need to have 3 monitors and 2 video cards to power them. perhaps its just that you need 2 video cards to power 3 monitorshofuldig

[QUOTE="Angry_Mushroom"][QUOTE="somegtalover"]

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played..

millerlight89

This, the more and more I think of it, this is the smarter move, its why i'm waiting for the hd6### series to see some real dx11 cards. The first series of cards for any new directx are usually pretty poor in comparison to refreshes, and later card series.

No real reason as of yet to jump on dx11 bandwagon anyway, except for unoptimized brand new features, and bragging rights. Give it another 6 months to a year and not only will more games utilize dx11, but should do it better, and by then better gpu's should be out or right around the corner.

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

LOL, you're choosing an ATI card over an Nvida card saying that the performance is "Equal". Ask yourself this question. Is the quality equal as well? Hell no, with ATI are you going to get PhysX, 3D vision, and CUDA? NO. So, in this sense they are not equal at all by any sense of the imagination. So, I'm sorry that you feel this way and that you've probably already ordered your ATI card. I'm also an ATI user, but not for long. =)SickStench

I really wanted a GTX470 aswell considering that NVIDIA do have better features and better driver support...i cant justify paying £100 extra for one compared to a 5850...also just to add to the ripoff they are hot and power hungry. Hence i bought a 5850 :)

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

somegtalover

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

SaPhIrX_lOl

[QUOTE="SaPhIrX_lOl"]

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

Daytona_178

Good man for sticking with ATI, HIS 5850 Modern Warfare 2 edition comes with special decent ique cooling and has a free code for Modern Warfare 2 even though it was retarded on the pc. i reckon thats alright aint it, if there is something better i'd really like to know. this is a good question for me as well.

LOL, you're choosing an ATI card over an Nvida card saying that the performance is "Equal". Ask yourself this question. Is the quality equal as well? Hell no, with ATI are you going to get PhysX, 3D vision, and CUDA? NO. So, in this sense they are not equal at all by any sense of the imagination. So, I'm sorry that you feel this way and that you've probably already ordered your ATI card. I'm also an ATI user, but not for long. =)SickStench

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

somegtalover

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

Nvidia - The Way DX11 is Meant to be Played.. seriously, it does do alot better with tessalation.

you get alot of other cool features worth it with Nvidia that beats ATI,

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

and yeah ALOT of games say TWIMTBP (The Way Its Meant To Be Played) Nvidia invests alot of money into optimizing games for their cards to many games.

The only downsides i see is the Huge power consumptions, price and loads of heat it produces

Dust24311

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="SaPhIrX_lOl"]If i've heard right, nvidia's latest drivers were complete ****. (Games like World of Warcraft were unplayable with the drivers and how many plays it? over 8 million people maybe 50/60% of em using Nvidia's cards.

millerlight89

in my experience when it comes to drivers, both ati and nvidia released some **** drivers, and great drivers. neither company is better overall than the other with drivers.

that being said, to say that any up-coming card will have better drivers in the future, is kinda illogical for Somegtalover to say.

also, nvidia's latest drivers fixed that fan problem, and the newest drivers seem to work fine, they didnt bring anything awesome to the table from what i can tell, but they work just fine.

the majority of the problems i've had with nvidia drivers lately (past 2 years) has been due to sli problems, though the past year they have really jumped on that and fixed most of those problems, and really increase in performance for SLI. but single card, vs single card, on drivers, it depends on the card, and the version of the drivers... not that it is ATI or Nvidia...

[QUOTE="SaPhIrX_lOl"]

[QUOTE="somegtalover"]

CUDA, PhysX, 3DVision, Better Drivers, (hehe) bragging rights.

Daytona_178

Um... I have a 4850 and a gts 250. Nvidia drivers at times be weak (performance wise) and lately they had that horrible problem with the fan controller. Even with that, I have not had as much problems then with ati. Nothing better then turning my system with the 4850 on to get random dll errors, system bsods on new drivers then having to wait several weeks till they finally fix it. Now that is just being honest there.

I thought the 470~~5870, not the 5850... Swiftstrike5

What? Why?

Nothing better then turning my system with the 4850 on to get random dll errors, system bsods on new drivers then having to wait several weeks till they finally fix it. Now that is just being honest there.

jedikevin2

[QUOTE="hofuldig"]

i thought i read and heard from many sites that to even use Nvidia's 3d Vision you need to have 3 monitors and 2 video cards to power them. perhaps its just that you need 2 video cards to power 3 monitors

millerlight89

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]I thought the 470~~5870, not the 5850... hartsickdiscipl

What? Why?

there is some serious fanboy logic going on in here.

I know that Dirt 2 comes with XFX, Sapphire and some Gigabyte 5850's, or at least it should.. But anyways, I went from a GTX 260 SLI setup to 5850 Xfire and I saw a nearly 10k jump in 3dmark vantage GPU score. These 5850's are great and they run cooler and quieter than my 260's did.