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#1 Hihatrider87
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I just wanted to here how people feel about this in general, and why.

i like it prevents some people from pirating the game.

besides , i don't see a problem with a game only allowing you to install it on a certain number of computers. does anybody doing anything legal have a reason to load a game on to more than 5 computers?

i don't feel like it intrudes on my privacy in a harassing way. i'm willing to bet that a lot of you feel differently so please feel free to chime in.

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#2 YoZbaNaToR
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Have you read the news lately?
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#3 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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I wrote a blog on this (in profile) but in a nutshell I don't mind a company trying to protect their product. I have a problem when they start telling us how many times we can install a game we own and payed $50 for. To add fuel to the fire they blame piracy when this is doing nothing to help it, Spore was torrented day of release in Australia but the real answer is they simply want to control the used game market.
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#4 Link1515
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Well, I had no problem with the SecuROM on my copy of Crysis Warhead until I just read the article GS posted about EA being sued over it. It says that SecuROM acts and performs like spyware or malware, monitoring your computer and its actions, it also says that it uses some of your PC's processing resources to transmit "data" to EA.

This is simple unacceptable, and I hope EA gets what they deserve.

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#5 tjoeb123
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I wish SecuROM would run like the Windows services.....and besides, if McAfee picks it up and deletes it, then your computer goes bye-bye.
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#6 Fandangle
Member since 2003 • 3433 Posts

It does not work for what they say it is for - to stop piracy.

Spyware/malware is more appropriate when describing Securom - disgusting piece of pond scum

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#7 manny020
Member since 2008 • 128 Posts

One of your reasons you say is because 5 computers is enough for people to install, however with PC's people upgrade often for example which therefore would take up the 5 activiations rather quick; and NO it hasn't prevented piracy.

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#8 zubrick
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and the program goes into ring 0 of your kernel and basic what that means is that it could control your computer and the only way to delete it is reformat c or disk image before install of spore securom has mess with security program like turning off virus or firewall protection and cause performance issue with vista that's why i don't own spore or other securom games from ea

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#9 teardropmina
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i like it prevents some people from pirating the game.

Hihatrider87

guess this is the popular belief that even though they sell their games, games are still their *property.* well, customers have every right not to let uninformed software being installed into their *property* = SecuROM. There's nowhere in the so called use agreement does they write about installing almost uninstallable software into our computers when the game installed! Computers are our property, indisputably, and it's straight criminal act to install unwanted software into people's property/computer.

corporate gamers delightly allow criminal acts bestowed upon their property, that's fine, but my guess is quite a bit gamers don't want that.

note, even you uninstall the game, SecuROM stays...what does this part have anything to do with priacy prevention, regardless of how you name people thieves (crack version downloader, game loaner and borrower, and used game sellers and buyers).

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i don't feel like it intrudes on my privacy in a harassing way.

Hihatrider87

well, good for you don't mind corporate invade your privacy as long as it's not *harassing* (or noticable?)...but I don't want my privacy being invaded period.

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#10 spierdalaj666
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Holy crap, i didn't know securom did that. I thought that only starforce was ballsy enough to try something like that. I guess i was wrong.

well, warhead was my last EA purchase at least until they get rid of securom.

oh, how would one delete securom from their computer? Does it require a reformat?

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#11 teardropmina
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oh, how would one delete securom from their computer? Does it require a reformat?

spierdalaj666

that's the easiest way; if not go for this route, you need to go through a tech trip, starting from making all hidden files shown, and get some free malware deleting software to help you along the way, venturing into reg config. and etc...let's just say it's not an easy task for the less computer savvy poeple.

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#12 A1B2C3CAL
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I'm not talking about it here on gamespot anymore.....people will report you to the moderators for talking about pirating etc.
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#13 spierdalaj666
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[QUOTE="spierdalaj666"]

oh, how would one delete securom from their computer? Does it require a reformat?

teardropmina

that's the easiest way; if not go for this route, you need to go through a tech trip, starting from making all hidden files shown, and get some free malware deleting software to help you along the way, venturing into reg config. and etc...let's just say it's not an easy task for the less computer savvy poeple.

well, as long as you can delete it (through the registry) then it's not "that" bad. Still though, no wonder everyone hates EA. Guess i have to really join the bandwagon.

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#14 teardropmina
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well, as long as you can delete it (through the registry) then it's not "that" bad.

spierdalaj666

well, yeah, the degree of *badness* varies depending on people's tech levels. however, judging from all those hardware questions asked frequently at this forum, I'd guess that it's rather pretty bad for lots of people.

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#15 demortez
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EA fails. So far, almost every game released with them, no matter how awesome it is, always has something like this. SecuRom is just another thing to add to the pile. If EA didn't have spore and crysis, i'd completely forget about them and stick only with Valve & Steam.
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#16 skyyfox1
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i think it sucks because some games will fail to load with that.
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#17 demi0227_basic
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When you shell out money for IP (Intellectual Property) there should be no limit on your installs...what if you want to play on your 4th computer 10 years from now? You have (Or should have) that right.

As far as preventing piracy...lol. Yup...Securom sure does a wonderful job. My copy of spore (Glad I didn't pay for it...I only invested a few hours and it wasn't that fun) doesn't have to have a cd in the tray, and I could install it as many times as I want. Yup...it did a great job of keeping people from pirating it.

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#18 A1B2C3CAL
Member since 2007 • 2332 Posts

A good read about secuROM.

DRM-SecuROM

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#19 gp556by45
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I personaly despise SecuROM. Not only is it screwing paying coustomers out of a game, there are other ways of protecting the content. Now, I have nothing against a company trying to protect their product, in fact I would do the smae thing. But there is a line between protecting your product and assuimg all of you customers are pirates.

To the OP, its not on 5 seperate computers/installs, it also covers changes to your actualy phiscal hardware too. Change an Video Card ? There goes one install, reformat ? there goes another one. Or how about a new Motherboard...Following this, a good portion of PC gamers wont be able to play a secuROM game after about a year or so. Now I dont know about you, but I refuse to buy a product that I am only going to be able to us for a little over a year, then either have to rebuy the game, or contact EA to hopefully be able to recive a new one (and lets face it, how many brand new copies of a game do you thing they are going to give out for free)

I think EA shot themselfs in the foot with this one. They should have learned from the disaster that secuROM was with Bioshock was last year. Not only will this more than likely increase the ammount of pirates because of them not wanting to buy a game with sever restrictions, they have just lost a good ammount of revenue because of the ammount of PC gamers they have got angry.

How would anyone like it if you baught a car and then after so many miles the manufacture took it back and told u you had to get a new car, thats basicly the anoligy there. I for one will not be buying a single EA game (or secuROM game for that matter) untill they fix the disaster that it is...that includesBattlefield 3.

Well in conculision, I guess my point is that there is a fine line in protecting your copywrited material, and then screwing over paying customers for money, and I think EA has finally crossed that line.

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#20 RobertBowen
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I hate this latest iteration of SecuROM and all the DRM nonsense. I'll never buy another game that uses it. In fact I haven't bought a single game in months, since Crysis was released - and that game, along with others using SecuROM 7.xx are all packed in a crate never to see the light of day again.

I've only just recently ordered The Witcher: Enhanced, because that game only has a CD check, and that is all I am willing to tolerate from now on.

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#21 Vampyronight
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While I've never been particularly supportive of DRM in general, at first, I didn't mind the intention behidn SecuRom. But now that I know it's basically makes itself uninstallable makes it basically the same as a virus to me. I was willing to play ball with activations so long as there was a revoke them, but not this. Absolutely unacceptable.

Unfortunately, I bought Mercenaries 2 almost a week ago before all this really came out, but I'll definately make this my last purchase with this kind of DRM.

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#22 gp556by45
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secuROM and DRM is all a joke anyway. Crysis Warhead had a working crack only a week after it came out. Gee, way to go EA. Not only did it all not work, your punishing the ones that actually paid ofr the game.