Shogun 2 Total War demo is on Steam now!

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#1 mhofever
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Now go, get downloading!

Too bad it's 5 gigs, will take a few hours before I can play it :(

http://store.steampowered.com/app/34330/

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#2 ionusX
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jinx!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27588036&tag=topics;title

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#3 lucfonzy
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Freakin 5gigs man for a demo. No chance.
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#4 James161324
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I think i will pass on it for now, i'm not waiting 2 hrs with a chance i may not be able to run it on my laptop. I know i can play empire on low. But i'm not sure how well opitimized shogun is.

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#5 rronqe
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Currently downloading, can't wait!!!
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#6 mhofever
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Better to download Dragon Age 2 demo and then play that , while playing that, download Shogun 2 demo :D

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#7 deactivated-5e376fa88bd45
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frakking hell why is this demo so big?!? : S

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#8 Baranga
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"To cut the size of the download down to something even remotely acceptable for a demo, we have had to make all battles, apart from the three tutorial battles and one big historical battle, auto-resolved battles. We did this because the data files involved in creating the battlefields are very large. The demo version of the game for example is approximately 5GB while the full version of the game is approximately 15GB."

Translation: our AI still sucks so we won't show any unscripted battle

:P

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#9 redstormrisen
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So it looks like the amount of Hdd space total war is going to take up will be larger than my old laptops hard drive. Fun stuff.
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"To cut the size of the download down to something even remotely acceptable for a demo, we have had to make all battles, apart from the three tutorial battles and one big historical battle, auto-resolved battles. We did this because the data files involved in creating the battlefields are very large. The demo version of the game for example is approximately 5GB while the full version of the game is approximately 15GB."

Translation: our AI still sucks so we won't show any unscripted battle

:P

Baranga
which is the same size as my Empire folder. Hell, even medieval II with the expansion takes that much...Rome is close
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#11 KillerJuan77
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6GB?! WUT

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#12 HeavenIceDay
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Now go, get downloading!

Too bad it's 5 gigs, will take a few hours before I can play it :(

http://store.steampowered.com/app/34330/

mhofever

Nice! Downloading now.

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#13 kozzy1234
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Pretty dang awesome for a demo. Usually dont like demos but this is pretty fun! Pretty limited but pretty dang fun to (:
This is just going to make the wait harder ):

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#14 Mystic-G
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LOL... in all fairness this is the minimum requirement for the full game.

Hard Drive:
20GB free hard disk space


lol

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#15 2good2betrue
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I know 5 gigs a lot, but everyone has to download it. I think it will restore a lot of faith in Total War. The battles are pretty intense.

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#16 Dark4ever01
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I like how everyone makes a big deal because it's 6GB. I mean come on, you can easily download that in a few hours while you do something else, it's not like we're still on dial up.

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#17 lucfonzy
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I like how everyone makes a big deal because it's 6GB. I mean come on, you can easily download that in a few hours while you do something else, it's not like we're still on dial up.

Dark4ever01

Some of us have slow broadband :( and are not able to leave electric items on for a prolonged period! XD

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#18 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Game seems OK. Really want to see nonscripted battle AI though.

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"To cut the size of the download down to something even remotely acceptable for a demo, we have had to make all battles, apart from the three tutorial battles and one big historical battle, auto-resolved battles. We did this because the data files involved in creating the battlefields are very large. The demo version of the game for example is approximately 5GB while the full version of the game is approximately 15GB."

Translation: our AI still sucks so we won't show any unscripted battle

:P

Baranga

Actually from what I've seen on the TW forums by people who have played the pre release version, the ai is supposed to be pretty decent(ex allied ai seems to react and adapt to what you're doing instead of charging at enemy). We'll see though.

And of course steam freezes while I'm downloading. Gj on putting up like 4 billion patches Valve :evil:.

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#20 kozzy1234
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Cannot get enough of the demo (:

Dont like many tutorials, but this one is fun, even though I know the stuff they are teaching you :P

Now we have to wait though for the full game ): I kind of wish I didnt play the demo now because now I want the retail version sooooo bad ;)

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#21 ChubbyGuy40
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Woo demo done downloading. Time to see what all this hype is about :D

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#22 i5750at4Ghz
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6 god damn gig demo. Will take me a damn hour. Better be worth it.
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#23 andalore
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I prefer the Grand Campaign Style of play and im guessing this is a battle demo so im not too interested.

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#24 wis3boi
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Can't wait!!

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#25 Chiddaling
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Can't wait!!

wis3boi

My download speed is a quarter of that. :(

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#26 KillerJuan77
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How's the performance and DX11 effects?

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#27 bflexholla
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demo is awesome, annoying that i couldn't put on aa but otherwise had everything maxed. played the historical battle & some of the tutorial - was very impressed with performance, was noticeably better than empire total war

also, starting with the battle map i was a tinch surprised when the other army was actually aggressive - maybe its just me thinking it, but it was intense...and the HATS

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#28 RedDanDoc
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just started downloading. as a rule total war demos are very unoptimised but I'm interested in how it will look.
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#29 shakmaster13
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It's not that good. There's still some pathfinding issues if you observe the enemies with guns trying to cross the river. I wasn't that impressed by combat either. Cavalry charges, as well as bowmen, are too weak while the katana samurai are stupidly strong. I had hoped for better, but it looks like CA still can't top Medieval 2. On the plus side, the graphics are beautiful. It was cool that people can betray you and stuff and appear out of nowhere, but it is a sad attempt at creating difficulty. Historical battles in TW games have almost always been more difficult than your average battle on very hard, but this one was still kind of too easy for compared to some of the battles in Empire and Medieval 2.

EDIT: Just realized how stupidly underpowered the spear units are. They make my strategy of spearwalls useless :(

I guess too many people hated getting destroyed by someone who knew how to use spear units online.

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#30 Upparoom
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I prefer the Grand Campaign Style of play and im guessing this is a battle demo so im not too interested.

andalore

I believe it has a campaign tutorial with the Chosokabe. I haven't tried it yet though.

I got owned in the historical battle. I'm awful at these games, and the scripted demo ai and the huge disadvantage the Toyotomi had(screw you Hideyaki) in the Battle of Sekigahara doesn't help :P. Overall, It's pretty fun.

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It's not that good. There's still some pathfinding issues if you observe the enemies with guns trying to cross the river. I wasn't that impressed by combat either. Cavalry charges, as well as bowmen, are too weak while the katana samurai are stupidly strong. I had hoped for better, but it looks like CA still can't top Medieval 2. On the plus side, the graphics are beautiful. It was cool that people can betray you and stuff and appear out of nowhere, but it is a sad attempt at creating difficulty. Historical battles in TW games have almost always been more difficult than your average battle on very hard, but this one was still kind of too easy for compared to some of the battles in Empire and Medieval 2.

EDIT: Just realized how stupidly underpowered the spear units are. They make my strategy of spearwalls useless :(

I guess too many people hated getting destroyed by someone who knew how to use spear units online.

shakmaster13

Spear walls are mainly effective against calvery.

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#32 flipin_jackass
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Huzzah! Crappers, I just downloaded the Civ V demo yesterday and watched like 5 movies. My ISP is probably wondering why Im whoring up the connection.
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#33 deactivated-64b76bd048860
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Still not done downloading... I want to play it so bad.
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#34 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

It's not that good. There's still some pathfinding issues if you observe the enemies with guns trying to cross the river. I wasn't that impressed by combat either. Cavalry charges, as well as bowmen, are too weak while the katana samurai are stupidly strong. I had hoped for better, but it looks like CA still can't top Medieval 2. On the plus side, the graphics are beautiful. It was cool that people can betray you and stuff and appear out of nowhere, but it is a sad attempt at creating difficulty. Historical battles in TW games have almost always been more difficult than your average battle on very hard, but this one was still kind of too easy for compared to some of the battles in Empire and Medieval 2.

EDIT: Just realized how stupidly underpowered the spear units are. They make my strategy of spearwalls useless :(

I guess too many people hated getting destroyed by someone who knew how to use spear units online.

JangoWuzHere

Spear walls are mainly effective against calvery.

Yes, but they should also keep melee at bay as they have done in previous games. That coupled with the incredibly low stats of the spear units make me feel that spamming katana samurai will be an easy way of beating the game at any difficulty.
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#35 wis3boi
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I'm impressed with this demo. Technically stunning, runs very smooth so far. AI seems pretty intelligent, although my units seem to rout too early. Interface is pretty nice too. Loading screens are really neat, and the cinematics are sweet.

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#36 Swiftstrike5
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

It's not that good. There's still some pathfinding issues if you observe the enemies with guns trying to cross the river. I wasn't that impressed by combat either. Cavalry charges, as well as bowmen, are too weak while the katana samurai are stupidly strong. I had hoped for better, but it looks like CA still can't top Medieval 2. On the plus side, the graphics are beautiful. It was cool that people can betray you and stuff and appear out of nowhere, but it is a sad attempt at creating difficulty. Historical battles in TW games have almost always been more difficult than your average battle on very hard, but this one was still kind of too easy for compared to some of the battles in Empire and Medieval 2.

EDIT: Just realized how stupidly underpowered the spear units are. They make my strategy of spearwalls useless :(

I guess too many people hated getting destroyed by someone who knew how to use spear units online.

shakmaster13

Spear walls are mainly effective against calvery.

Yes, but they should also keep melee at bay as they have done in previous games. That coupled with the incredibly low stats of the spear units make me feel that spamming katana samurai will be an easy way of beating the game at any difficulty.

I haven't played the demo yet, but maybe there's a military research that allows for a formation that easily breaks spear walls? I do hope they aren't too underpowered. They're major weakness is supposed to be mobility and flanks/rear.
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#37 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Spear walls are mainly effective against calvery.

Swiftstrike5

Yes, but they should also keep melee at bay as they have done in previous games. That coupled with the incredibly low stats of the spear units make me feel that spamming katana samurai will be an easy way of beating the game at any difficulty.

I haven't played the demo yet, but maybe there's a military research that allows for a formation that easily breaks spear walls? I do hope they aren't too underpowered. They're major weakness is supposed to be mobility and flanks/rear.

From my third play through of the historic battle, their weakness seams to be everything that isn't cavalry charging at them headfirst when they have a spearwall.

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#38 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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demo is awesome, annoying that i couldn't put on aa but otherwise had everything maxed. played the historical battle & some of the tutorial - was very impressed with performance, was noticeably better than empire total war

also, starting with the battle map i was a tinch surprised when the other army was actually aggressive - maybe its just me thinking it, but it was intense...and the HATS

bflexholla
I actually found performance to be about the same as Empire.
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#39 flipin_jackass
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Hmmm... it's downloading at only 1.8 Kbps and it will apparently take only 1 hr and 45 mins. lol, something is definitely wrong there.
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#40 Mystic-G
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Hmmm... it's downloading at only 1.8 Kbps and it will apparently take only 1 hr and 45 mins. lol, something is definitely wrong there. flipin_jackass
Must be a 6MB demo. :P
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#41 darkfox101
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I can't beat the historical battle. :(
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#42 deactivated-64b76bd048860
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I was a bit underwhelmed with the demo to be honest. But I'll give it another try, the AI's pretty scripted.
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#43 James161324
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Dissapointing in what i have heard so far.

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#44 wis3boi
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Dissapointing in what i have heard so far.

James161324
A single scripted battle (that is terribly hard it seems) and a tutorial isn't much to go on really
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#45 James161324
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

Dissapointing in what i have heard so far.

wis3boi

A single scripted battle (that is terribly hard it seems) and a tutorial isn't much to go on really

That is true. Looks like i may be waiting for a steam sale to get it.

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#46 Upparoom
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

Dissapointing in what i have heard so far.

wis3boi

A single scripted battle (that is terribly hard it seems) and a tutorial isn't much to go on really

Yeah, I don't like the campaign tutorial that much. The Chosokabe aren't the most interesting clan to me, and I'm not really a tutorial person. I'd rather be clueless and figure out things myself, using google in extreme situations of stupidity.

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I'm impressed with this demo. Technically stunningwis3boi

No, not really. It's no better than Empire.

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#48 jedikevin2
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]I'm impressed with this demo. Technically stunningTHA-TODD-BEAST

No, not really. It's no better than Empire.

Wis3boi is entitled to his statement... Random statements of "no its not" is a bit saddening the see in the Pc & Mac games forum.. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I don't really care for demo's... The major thing on this game will be castle attacks, air/land battles etc. Def gonna be a great game for me.. I loved shogun total war and sadly its extremely hard to make work on any new computer... Can't wait to head back to the shogun Era.

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#49 kozzy1234
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Its a tutorial people, come on now. A dang fun one that that, but of course it is goign to be scripted.
Game runs very well, the controls are good, cant wait to play this game.

The graphics are also nice and its not even dx11 in the demo. Hate waiting till the release for this now ):

I think the tutorial is nice for beginers to the series to get a hang of everything. Just a small tease to me but it made me wnat it even more now.

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#50 THA-TODD-BEAST
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[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]I'm impressed with this demo. Technically stunningjedikevin2

No, not really. It's no better than Empire.

Wis3boi is entitled to his statement... Random statements of "no its not" is a bit saddening the see in the Pc & Mac games forum.. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

And I'm entitled to know that this game looks no better than Empire: Total War. It's more fact than opinion. You can compare the two games side-by-side and it's clear as day. Same engine, same effects, and pretty much the same thing overall.