Should I buy a EVGA GTX 670?

I have been considering buying a EVGA GTX 670, pros and cons please. I have been a loyal ATI fan for the last two videocards I have had, but I really want to hear from those who now have one (a GTX 670) or if you are also considering buying one and why over ATI.

buy it, its a good card. When buying video cards you need to get whats the better deal, don't worry about anything else. 670gtx is a good card and will do you well. Im more of an ATI guy myself but i have owned a fair share of geforce cards like the 460gtx and have a geforce 240gt in my backup computer and its given me solid performance.

It's the best value for money out of the GPUs atm, supports physx and Nvidias 3D Vision and Nvidia have much better drivers. The only AMD card that can compete is the 7970 and even then thanx to their crap drivers it fails in most games.

It's the best value for money out of the GPUs atm, supports physx and Nvidias 3D Vision and Nvidia have much better drivers. The only AMD card that can compete is the 7970 and even then thanx to their crap drivers it fails in most games.

Tixylixx

don't listen to this idiot, he don't know what hes talking about. Drivers are about the same, nvidias may be slightly better but nothing to worry about. Physx is pointless and 3dvision is a fail. Also the 7970 has 3gb of vram which is 1gb more than the 670. Id still recommend the 670 since its faster (not by much) and cheaper.

I wouldn't get the EVGA 670. The reference 670's are kind of cheaply made. Mine had an annoying buzz coming from the fan. If you read owner reviews, it seems to be quite a common problem with the reference 670's.

The non-reference cards are generally of a better build quality. Better heat sinks, better fans, better PCB's, more head room for overclocking.

The only reason to buy EVGA is because of their customer support at the expense of quality. If you get a non-reference, you are getting higher quality at the expense of customer support. I would also look at the EVGA FTW--non-referece PCB. Im not sure if it has a better heatsink, but if it does it would definitely be worth the extra money.

Its all about what you are looking for. If you value customer support above everything else then go with EVGA. Also, if you want the exhaust type cooler if you have a case with low air flow.

But yes, I would definitely get a 670 of some kind. Its an awesome card. Best value atm imo. My EVGA 670 went back to Amazon for a refund because of the defective fan and I'm planning on getting an Asus or Gigabyte. The ASUS 670 looks like the best card (with the worst CS).

Have a look at the cheap reference heatsink:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1256156/serious-cost-cutting-on-the-gtx-670s-heatsink

Then have a look at the Asus card:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/3.html

The heatsink runs along the entire length of the PCB.

[QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

It's the best value for money out of the GPUs atm, supports physx and Nvidias 3D Vision and Nvidia have much better drivers. The only AMD card that can compete is the 7970 and even then thanx to their crap drivers it fails in most games.

blaznwiipspman1

don't listen to this idiot, he don't know what hes talking about. Drivers are about the same, nvidias may be slightly better but nothing to worry about. Physx is pointless and 3dvision is a fail. Also the 7970 has 3gb of vram which is 1gb more than the 670. Id still recommend the 670 since its faster (not by much) and cheaper.

You keep hearing people saying that the drivers are about the same. I used to say the same thing until I owned a 7870 and some of my games wouldn't work. AMD customer support admitted it was because the card was new an the driver had compatiblity issues. They lost me as a customer.

Installed a 670 and viola! All of my games magically worked. I'm no longer buying the story that AMD's drivers are just as good.

Also on the 7970 that extra gb of ram isnt going to make much of a difference in the vast majority of games if you are using 1 monitor.

[QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

It's the best value for money out of the GPUs atm, supports physx and Nvidias 3D Vision and Nvidia have much better drivers. The only AMD card that can compete is the 7970 and even then thanx to their crap drivers it fails in most games.

blaznwiipspman1

don't listen to this idiot, he don't know what hes talking about. Drivers are about the same, nvidias may be slightly better but nothing to worry about. Physx is pointless and 3dvision is a fail. Also the 7970 has 3gb of vram which is 1gb more than the 670. Id still recommend the 670 since its faster (not by much) and cheaper.

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

It's the best value for money out of the GPUs atm, supports physx and Nvidias 3D Vision and Nvidia have much better drivers. The only AMD card that can compete is the 7970 and even then thanx to their crap drivers it fails in most games.

Mr_Ditters

don't listen to this idiot, he don't know what hes talking about. Drivers are about the same, nvidias may be slightly better but nothing to worry about. Physx is pointless and 3dvision is a fail. Also the 7970 has 3gb of vram which is 1gb more than the 670. Id still recommend the 670 since its faster (not by much) and cheaper.

You keep hearing people saying that the drivers are about the same. I used to say the same thing until I owned a 7870 and some of my games wouldn't work. AMD customer support admitted it was because the card was new an the driver had compatiblity issues. They lost me as a customer.

Installed a 670 and viola! All of my games magically worked. I'm no longer buying the story that AMD's drivers are just as good.

Also on the 7970 that extra gb of ram isnt going to make much of a difference in the vast majority of games if you are using 1 monitor.

interesting story, but hard to believe since there are thousands of people with radeon 7xxx series cards and you don't hear them complaining. You sound like the radeon card you had was a train wreck and wouldn't even run games, but most likely the issues you're complaining about were small and fixed with small updates. Im not doubting you had some driver issues with the radeon 7xxx series of cards but they ARE new and its not going to run obscure pc games 100% perfectly. Also like I said, i still recommend the 670 over the 7970 since its a better value, but you need to get the nvidia stick out of ur butt and stop trashing the radeon 7xxx cards, they are great cards.

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

It's the best value for money out of the GPUs atm, supports physx and Nvidias 3D Vision and Nvidia have much better drivers. The only AMD card that can compete is the 7970 and even then thanx to their crap drivers it fails in most games.

mitu123

don't listen to this idiot, he don't know what hes talking about. Drivers are about the same, nvidias may be slightly better but nothing to worry about. Physx is pointless and 3dvision is a fail. Also the 7970 has 3gb of vram which is 1gb more than the 670. Id still recommend the 670 since its faster (not by much) and cheaper.

[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

don't listen to this idiot, he don't know what hes talking about. Drivers are about the same, nvidias may be slightly better but nothing to worry about. Physx is pointless and 3dvision is a fail. Also the 7970 has 3gb of vram which is 1gb more than the 670. Id still recommend the 670 since its faster (not by much) and cheaper.

blaznwiipspman1

You keep hearing people saying that the drivers are about the same. I used to say the same thing until I owned a 7870 and some of my games wouldn't work. AMD customer support admitted it was because the card was new an the driver had compatiblity issues. They lost me as a customer.

Installed a 670 and viola! All of my games magically worked. I'm no longer buying the story that AMD's drivers are just as good.

Also on the 7970 that extra gb of ram isnt going to make much of a difference in the vast majority of games if you are using 1 monitor.

interesting story, but hard to believe since there are thousands of people with radeon 7xxx series cards and you don't hear them complaining. You sound like the radeon card you had was a train wreck and wouldn't even run games, but most likely the issues you're complaining about were small and fixed with small updates. Im not doubting you had some driver issues with the radeon 7xxx series of cards but they ARE new and its not going to run obscure pc games 100% perfectly. Also like I said, i still recommend the 670 over the 7970 since its a better value, but you need to get the nvidia stick out of ur butt and stop trashing the radeon 7xxx cards, they are great cards.

Unfortunately, my problems with their drivers went well beyond it not being able to run certain games (e.g. Shogun 2, Tera) and 2 RMA's. Their uninstaller is awful. It leaves remnants of previous drivers so that new installations conflict with previous installations which had already been uninstalled. The solution to so many driver issues with AMD involves using 3rd party uninstallers. Pretty sloppy.

Not to mention little things. Like unintsalling their drivers can delete your monitor drivers leaving your desktop resolution so low that you can't install their drivers again because the AMD isntaller is larger than the resolution of your desktop and their window isnt resizeable. I ran into so many random quirks (bugs) that were totally unrelated to gaming and were just issues with their installer and CCC. They really need to polish that stuff up. Keep in mind this was all after a fresh install of windows. Too many things that just shouldn't happen with simple driver installations. I literally ran into about a dozen little bugs that drove me up the wall and made me lose all respect for AMD.

Still waiting on those Skyrim profiles...

I know a lot of people don't have issues with their drivers. I didn't for about 4 years. But, that whole experience over the course of a month of troubleshooting was enough to convince me to they are complete garbage. None of my friends will buy AMD either after they saw what was going on with that whole fiasco.

Anyhow this is getting off topic.

Edit:

Oh yeah and as far the whole obscure games thing and the thousands of happy HD7xxx owners. You might want to check out the Shogun 2 support forums. After months they still can't play in dx11.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

don't listen to this idiot, he don't know what hes talking about. Drivers are about the same, nvidias may be slightly better but nothing to worry about. Physx is pointless and 3dvision is a fail. Also the 7970 has 3gb of vram which is 1gb more than the 670. Id still recommend the 670 since its faster (not by much) and cheaper.

godzillavskong

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Then he should wait for the 4GB GTX 670 which is coming out in early June and it's only 470 bucks for the non-overclocked version.mitu123

sheesh 8gb. How many monitors do you have?

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"] Hmm, that sounds nice! I may have to look into that one myself.Mr_Ditters

sheesh 8gb. How many monitors do you have?

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Then he should wait for the 4GB GTX 670 which is coming out in early June and it's only 470 bucks for the non-overclocked version.mitu123

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

You keep hearing people saying that the drivers are about the same. I used to say the same thing until I owned a 7870 and some of my games wouldn't work. AMD customer support admitted it was because the card was new an the driver had compatiblity issues. They lost me as a customer.

Installed a 670 and viola! All of my games magically worked. I'm no longer buying the story that AMD's drivers are just as good.

Also on the 7970 that extra gb of ram isnt going to make much of a difference in the vast majority of games if you are using 1 monitor.

Mr_Ditters

interesting story, but hard to believe since there are thousands of people with radeon 7xxx series cards and you don't hear them complaining. You sound like the radeon card you had was a train wreck and wouldn't even run games, but most likely the issues you're complaining about were small and fixed with small updates. Im not doubting you had some driver issues with the radeon 7xxx series of cards but they ARE new and its not going to run obscure pc games 100% perfectly. Also like I said, i still recommend the 670 over the 7970 since its a better value, but you need to get the nvidia stick out of ur butt and stop trashing the radeon 7xxx cards, they are great cards.

Unfortunately, my problems with their drivers went well beyond it not being able to run certain games (e.g. Shogun 2, Tera) and 2 RMA's. Their uninstaller is awful. It leaves remnants of previous drivers so that new installations conflict with previous installations which had already been uninstalled. The solution to so many driver issues with AMD involves using 3rd party uninstallers. Pretty sloppy.

Not to mention little things. Like unintsalling their drivers can delete your monitor drivers leaving your desktop resolution so low that you can't install their drivers again because the AMD isntaller is larger than the resolution of your desktop and their window isnt resizeable. I ran into so many random quirks (bugs) that were totally unrelated to gaming and were just issues with their installer and CCC. They really need to polish that stuff up. Keep in mind this was all after a fresh install of windows. Too many things that just shouldn't happen with simple driver installations. I literally ran into about a dozen little bugs that drove me up the wall and made me lose all respect for AMD.

Still waiting on those Skyrim profiles...

I know a lot of people don't have issues with their drivers. I didn't for about 4 years. But, that whole experience over the course of a month of troubleshooting was enough to convince me to they are complete garbage. None of my friends will buy AMD either after they saw what was going on with that whole fiasco.

Anyhow this is getting off topic.

Edit:

Oh yeah and as far the whole obscure games thing and the thousands of happy HD7xxx owners. You might want to check out the Shogun 2 support forums. After months they still can't play in dx11.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=531017&page=2

seems like a mixed reaction, alot of users have issues with 7970 and alot of users are fine running it. Its a problem with the game itself and compatibility with other software. Also the 680 gtx is also having a ton of issues with the game:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=536454&page=2

[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

interesting story, but hard to believe since there are thousands of people with radeon 7xxx series cards and you don't hear them complaining. You sound like the radeon card you had was a train wreck and wouldn't even run games, but most likely the issues you're complaining about were small and fixed with small updates. Im not doubting you had some driver issues with the radeon 7xxx series of cards but they ARE new and its not going to run obscure pc games 100% perfectly. Also like I said, i still recommend the 670 over the 7970 since its a better value, but you need to get the nvidia stick out of ur butt and stop trashing the radeon 7xxx cards, they are great cards.

blaznwiipspman1

Unfortunately, my problems with their drivers went well beyond it not being able to run certain games (e.g. Shogun 2, Tera) and 2 RMA's. Their uninstaller is awful. It leaves remnants of previous drivers so that new installations conflict with previous installations which had already been uninstalled. The solution to so many driver issues with AMD involves using 3rd party uninstallers. Pretty sloppy.

Not to mention little things. Like unintsalling their drivers can delete your monitor drivers leaving your desktop resolution so low that you can't install their drivers again because the AMD isntaller is larger than the resolution of your desktop and their window isnt resizeable. I ran into so many random quirks (bugs) that were totally unrelated to gaming and were just issues with their installer and CCC. They really need to polish that stuff up. Keep in mind this was all after a fresh install of windows. Too many things that just shouldn't happen with simple driver installations. I literally ran into about a dozen little bugs that drove me up the wall and made me lose all respect for AMD.

Still waiting on those Skyrim profiles...

I know a lot of people don't have issues with their drivers. I didn't for about 4 years. But, that whole experience over the course of a month of troubleshooting was enough to convince me to they are complete garbage. None of my friends will buy AMD either after they saw what was going on with that whole fiasco.

Anyhow this is getting off topic.

Edit:

Oh yeah and as far the whole obscure games thing and the thousands of happy HD7xxx owners. You might want to check out the Shogun 2 support forums. After months they still can't play in dx11.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=531017&page=2

seems like a mixed reaction, alot of users have issues with 7970 and alot of users are fine running it. Its a problem with the game itself and compatibility with other software. Also the 680 gtx is also having a ton of issues with the game:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=536454&page=2

I was refering to their offical forums. CA even mentioned the problem in their latest patch notes. Their developers are active there trying to figure out what the deal is. This isn't some issue effecting a small number of people. Its the exact same problem experienced in Tera and Skyrim to a lesser extent. Total system freeze requiring reboot, which is lovely. Whereas other games work flawlessly. AMD customer support told that they were are of the driver issue with those games and that I needed to be patient for a fix with the next CCC release. No thanks. These cards have been out long enough for them to work out these issues.

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/35440-7xxx-Series-AMD-cards-freezes-and-lock-ups

There you go. 50 pages of troubleshooting HD7xxx cards. I think Ive read every page and so far only one hd7xxx owner said his worked.

nvidia>ati

i've owned both on many different rigs over a 12 year period and the nvidia cards always outperforms the ati cards

the ati has crappy driver support and there's always something buggy going on with them, whereas with nvidia i have noticed just the opposite - nice and smooth and no headaches.

that's my view on it.

I wouldn't get the EVGA 670. The reference 670's are kind of cheaply made. Mine had an annoying buzz coming from the fan. If you read owner reviews, it seems to be quite a common problem with the reference 670's.

The non-reference cards are generally of a better build quality. Better heat sinks, better fans, better PCB's, more head room for overclocking.

The only reason to buy EVGA is because of their customer support at the expense of quality. If you get a non-reference, you are getting higher quality at the expense of customer support. I would also look at the EVGA FTW--non-referece PCB. Im not sure if it has a better heatsink, but if it does it would definitely be worth the extra money.

Its all about what you are looking for. If you value customer support above everything else then go with EVGA. Also, if you want the exhaust type cooler if you have a case with low air flow.

But yes, I would definitely get a 670 of some kind. Its an awesome card. Best value atm imo. My EVGA 670 went back to Amazon for a refund because of the defective fan and I'm planning on getting an Asus or Gigabyte. The ASUS 670 looks like the best card (with the worst CS).

Have a look at the cheap reference heatsink:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1256156/serious-cost-cutting-on-the-gtx-670s-heatsink

Then have a look at the Asus card:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/3.html

The heatsink runs along the entire length of the PCB.

Mr_Ditters

Thank you for the feedback, that is actually, (EVGA FTW) the card I was looking at getting, saw them at Newegg for $419.00. Appparently the EVGA Superclocked has been recalled as their was some issue pre-testing at the factory and some of the cards slipped through and have now been recalled, and EVGA is offering these customers the FTW as a replacement. I see this card better, because its Core Clock is 1006 MHz as apposed the Superclocked version that is at 967 MHz, and for us as gamers this means more fps, and fps means life.

[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

I wouldn't get the EVGA 670. The reference 670's are kind of cheaply made. Mine had an annoying buzz coming from the fan. If you read owner reviews, it seems to be quite a common problem with the reference 670's.

The non-reference cards are generally of a better build quality. Better heat sinks, better fans, better PCB's, more head room for overclocking.

The only reason to buy EVGA is because of their customer support at the expense of quality. If you get a non-reference, you are getting higher quality at the expense of customer support. I would also look at the EVGA FTW--non-referece PCB. Im not sure if it has a better heatsink, but if it does it would definitely be worth the extra money.

Its all about what you are looking for. If you value customer support above everything else then go with EVGA. Also, if you want the exhaust type cooler if you have a case with low air flow.

But yes, I would definitely get a 670 of some kind. Its an awesome card. Best value atm imo. My EVGA 670 went back to Amazon for a refund because of the defective fan and I'm planning on getting an Asus or Gigabyte. The ASUS 670 looks like the best card (with the worst CS).

Have a look at the cheap reference heatsink:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1256156/serious-cost-cutting-on-the-gtx-670s-heatsink

Then have a look at the Asus card:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/3.html

The heatsink runs along the entire length of the PCB.

Gamr2723

Thank you for the feedback, that is actually, (EVGA FTW) the card I was looking at getting, saw them at Newegg for $419.00. Appparently the EVGA Superclocked has been recalled as their was some issue pre-testing at the factory and some of the cards slipped through and have now been recalled, and EVGA is offering these customers the FTW as a replacement. I see this card better, because its Core Clock is 1006 MHz as apposed the Superclocked version that is at 967 MHz, and for us as gamers this means more fps, and fps means life.

I agree with everything you said. You would do very well with that card. I actually regretted not getting a defective card OC for the freebie upgrade (I bought the standard 670). One thing to be careful of is the cooling solution on the FTW. I know they have a better PCB, but I have yet to find any info or photos on the fans or heatsink (if they are the same low quality reference stuff).

If you want good customer support above everything else then that is the card for you. Their customer support is the best i've seen. But, don't jump into it without looking at the gigabyte or asus cards. As far as I know gigabytes and asus's customer support are **** (asus is worse), but their cards are of a better quality. Better enough to justify worse customer support? I don't know. Its all about your preference. Kind of a toss up imo.

Another thing is, if you are in the US, I would look at buying from Amazon. Also the best customer support. My 7870 was crap. I called them at 7 pm and they sent me a new one by 2pm the next day. No shipping charges whatsoever. Very impressive considering I lived in the upper peninsula of Michigan (the middle of no where). Then they accepted a full refund after none of the cards worked due to driver issues. Amazon is amazing. With Amazon and EVGA, you would have double coverage.

^I want to get my GTX 670s from amazon.=3

[QUOTE="Gamr2723"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

I wouldn't get the EVGA 670. The reference 670's are kind of cheaply made. Mine had an annoying buzz coming from the fan. If you read owner reviews, it seems to be quite a common problem with the reference 670's.

The non-reference cards are generally of a better build quality. Better heat sinks, better fans, better PCB's, more head room for overclocking.

The only reason to buy EVGA is because of their customer support at the expense of quality. If you get a non-reference, you are getting higher quality at the expense of customer support. I would also look at the EVGA FTW--non-referece PCB. Im not sure if it has a better heatsink, but if it does it would definitely be worth the extra money.

Its all about what you are looking for. If you value customer support above everything else then go with EVGA. Also, if you want the exhaust type cooler if you have a case with low air flow.

But yes, I would definitely get a 670 of some kind. Its an awesome card. Best value atm imo. My EVGA 670 went back to Amazon for a refund because of the defective fan and I'm planning on getting an Asus or Gigabyte. The ASUS 670 looks like the best card (with the worst CS).

Have a look at the cheap reference heatsink:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1256156/serious-cost-cutting-on-the-gtx-670s-heatsink

Then have a look at the Asus card:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/3.html

The heatsink runs along the entire length of the PCB.

Mr_Ditters

Thank you for the feedback, that is actually, (EVGA FTW) the card I was looking at getting, saw them at Newegg for $419.00. Appparently the EVGA Superclocked has been recalled as their was some issue pre-testing at the factory and some of the cards slipped through and have now been recalled, and EVGA is offering these customers the FTW as a replacement. I see this card better, because its Core Clock is 1006 MHz as apposed the Superclocked version that is at 967 MHz, and for us as gamers this means more fps, and fps means life.

I agree with everything you said. You would do very well with that card. I actually regretted not getting a defective card OC for the freebie upgrade (I bought the standard 670). One thing to be careful of is the cooling solution on the FTW. I know they have a better PCB, but I have yet to find any info or photos on the fans or heatsink (if they are the same low quality reference stuff).

If you want good customer support above everything else then that is the card for you. Their customer support is the best i've seen. But, don't jump into it without looking at the gigabyte or asus cards. As far as I know gigabytes and asus's customer support are **** (asus is worse), but their cards are of a better quality. Better enough to justify worse customer support? I don't know. Its all about your preference. Kind of a toss up imo.

Another thing is, if you are in the US, I would look at buying from Amazon. Also the best customer support. My 7870 was crap. I called them at 7 pm and they sent me a new one by 2pm the next day. No shipping charges whatsoever. Very impressive considering I lived in the upper peninsula of Michigan (the middle of no where). Then they accepted a full refund after none of the cards worked due to driver issues. Amazon is amazing. With Amazon and EVGA, you would have double coverage.

Thanks for the advice, but as I was looking at Amazon they didn't have the FTW's as of yet, and yes I would always buy if from Amazon, as I am an Amazon Prime Member. Thanks also for the advice on the PCB, I have yet to see a picture either, but what I read is that it uses the same one as the 680 GTX so most likely it may be a better design, should have one within a few weeks, so I will know for sure. :cool:

Ok firstly I'm not an idiot, I've owned both AMD and Nvidia cards and I've had nothing but driver issues with AMD where you have to wait months for the games to fix and even then they don't run better. Secondly if you look at benchmarks in games you clearly see AMD cards are inconsistent, now they have the raw power, shown in synthetic tests, however down to drivers they fail and especially with crossfire. Thirdy Nvidia not only have better 3D support but they have Physx and better options for AA and AF...

My last AMD card was a 6970, I had constant problems with games at the end of last year, I bought a 570 (which shouldn't be more powerful) and it runs every game perfect. I will not be switching back to AMD in the future unless they fix their drivers, however it just looks to get worse. Such a sad future and horrible to see them drive the ATI name into the ground, but they're going the sam way with their failed CPUs.

Also the 670 refrence cards are fine, unless you plan on heavy overclocking I wouldn't worry. My friend has bought the Gigabyte one with the three fans and he says it has useless overclocking potential. The OC cards with the longer boards are just 680 boards and they're probably only using them because of a shortage of 670 boards.

buy it, its a good card. When buying video cards you need to get whats the better deal, don't worry about anything else. 670gtx is a good card and will do you well. Im more of an ATI guy myself but i have owned a fair share of geforce cards like the 460gtx and have a geforce 240gt in my backup computer and its given me solid performance.

blaznwiipspman1

+1

nvidia>ati

i've owned both on many different rigs over a 12 year period and the nvidia cards always outperforms the ati cards

the ati has crappy driver support and there's always something buggy going on with them, whereas with nvidia i have noticed just the opposite - nice and smooth and no headaches.

that's my view on it.

buccomatic

[QUOTE="buccomatic"]

nvidia>ati

i've owned both on many different rigs over a 12 year period and the nvidia cards always outperforms the ati cards

the ati has crappy driver support and there's always something buggy going on with them, whereas with nvidia i have noticed just the opposite - nice and smooth and no headaches.

that's my view on it.

godzillavskong

Besides it's no true, remember when Nvidia launched the horrible 5 series and every one bought the 9800pro.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"] Hmm, that sounds nice! I may have to look into that one myself.godzillavskong

I just got an email notification that the 4GB GTX 670 was in stock so I went to the page and next thing you know it's out of stock again...:x

I just got an email notification that the 4GB GTX 670 was in stock so I went to the page and next thing you know it's out of stock again...:x

mitu123

Unless you're running the game off of multiple displays or a crazy high resolution I wouldn't worry about having a 4GB GPU. 2GB will be more than enough until you'll upgrade again anyways...

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I just got an email notification that the 4GB GTX 670 was in stock so I went to the page and next thing you know it's out of stock again...:x

Tixylixx

Unless you're running the game off of multiple displays or a crazy high resolution I wouldn't worry about having a 4GB GPU. 2GB will be more than enough until you'll upgrade again anyways...

I wouldn't get the EVGA 670. The reference 670's are kind of cheaply made. Mine had an annoying buzz coming from the fan. If you read owner reviews, it seems to be quite a common problem with the reference 670's.

The non-reference cards are generally of a better build quality. Better heat sinks, better fans, better PCB's, more head room for overclocking.

The only reason to buy EVGA is because of their customer support at the expense of quality. If you get a non-reference, you are getting higher quality at the expense of customer support. I would also look at the EVGA FTW--non-referece PCB. Im not sure if it has a better heatsink, but if it does it would definitely be worth the extra money.

Its all about what you are looking for. If you value customer support above everything else then go with EVGA. Also, if you want the exhaust type cooler if you have a case with low air flow.

But yes, I would definitely get a 670 of some kind. Its an awesome card. Best value atm imo. My EVGA 670 went back to Amazon for a refund because of the defective fan and I'm planning on getting an Asus or Gigabyte. The ASUS 670 looks like the best card (with the worst CS).

Have a look at the cheap reference heatsink:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1256156/serious-cost-cutting-on-the-gtx-670s-heatsink

Then have a look at the Asus card:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/3.html

The heatsink runs along the entire length of the PCB.

Mr_Ditters

Don't listen to me Max Payne 3 needs 4GB of Vram to max out.............. It's as crazy at GTA 4 needing 1.5GB of VRAM in 2008, which I still think is too high today. Considering console games run on 256mb at about 720P and look much better performance/visual wise as the PC.

Don't listen to me Max Payne 3 needs 4GB of Vram to max out.............. It's as crazy at GTA 4 needing 1.5GB of VRAM in 2008, which I still think is too high today. Considering console games run on 256mb at about 720P and look much better performance/visual wise as the PC.

Tixylixx

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that consoles "look much better performance/visual wise as the PC." Many console games run very choppy while running at 720p or often below that res, and at settings that are far below PC standards.

I have been considering buying a EVGA GTX 670, pros and cons please. I have been a loyal ATI fan for the last two videocards I have had, but I really want to hear from those who now have one (a GTX 670) or if you are also considering buying one and why over ATI.

Gamr2723

link

Red = AMD 7970 leads

Green = NVIDIA GTX 680 leads

Factory overclocks can change the position.

Market price list for HD 7950, HD 7970. GTX 670 and GTX 680.

I was refering to their offical forums. CA even mentioned the problem in their latest patch notes. Their developers are active there trying to figure out what the deal is. This isn't some issue effecting a small number of people. Its the exact same problem experienced in Tera and Skyrim to a lesser extent. Total system freeze requiring reboot, which is lovely. Whereas other games work flawlessly. AMD customer support told that they were are of the driver issue with those games and that I needed to be patient for a fix with the next CCC release. No thanks. These cards have been out long enough for them to work out these issues.

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/35440-7xxx-Series-AMD-cards-freezes-and-lock-ups

There you go. 50 pages of troubleshooting HD7xxx cards. I think Ive read every page and so far only one hd7xxx owner said his worked.

Mr_Ditters

GTX 680 Lockups using Driver 301.42 WHQL , http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166853

Nvidia driver stops responding - GTX 680http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5151273582

napoleon total war freezing with GTX 680 http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/38763-napoleon-total-war-freezing

Ok firstly I'm not an idiot, I've owned both AMD and Nvidia cards and I've had nothing but driver issues with AMD where you have to wait months for the games to fix and even then they don't run better. Secondly if you look at benchmarks in games you clearly see AMD cards are inconsistent, now they have the raw power, shown in synthetic tests, however down to drivers they fail and especially with crossfire. Thirdy Nvidia not only have better 3D support but they have Physx and better options for AA and AF...

Tixylixx

Battlefield 3 Freezing / Crashing Issues -GTX 680 SLI-Windows 7 64 bit, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX52JErk-os

7950/7970 has better support for GpGPU 64bit math.

[QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

Ok firstly I'm not an idiot, I've owned both AMD and Nvidia cards and I've had nothing but driver issues with AMD where you have to wait months for the games to fix and even then they don't run better. Secondly if you look at benchmarks in games you clearly see AMD cards are inconsistent, now they have the raw power, shown in synthetic tests, however down to drivers they fail and especially with crossfire. Thirdy Nvidia not only have better 3D support but they have Physx and better options for AA and AF...

ronvalencia

Battlefield 3 Freezing / Crashing Issues -GTX 680 SLI-Windows 7 64 bit, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX52JErk-os

7950/7970 has better support for GpGPU 64bit math.

Well the 7000 is a generation ahead of the 500 series and in most benchmarks the 680s own the 7970...

Synthetic tests always show AMD/ATI cards better than they are, their drivers make them suck.

I have SLI 670 and BF3 is fine.

I just spotted that 680 there and there is something clearly wrong with that benchmark.

[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

I was refering to their offical forums. CA even mentioned the problem in their latest patch notes. Their developers are active there trying to figure out what the deal is. This isn't some issue effecting a small number of people. Its the exact same problem experienced in Tera and Skyrim to a lesser extent. Total system freeze requiring reboot, which is lovely. Whereas other games work flawlessly. AMD customer support told that they were are of the driver issue with those games and that I needed to be patient for a fix with the next CCC release. No thanks. These cards have been out long enough for them to work out these issues.

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/35440-7xxx-Series-AMD-cards-freezes-and-lock-ups

There you go. 50 pages of troubleshooting HD7xxx cards. I think Ive read every page and so far only one hd7xxx owner said his worked.

ronvalencia

GTX 680 Lockups using Driver 301.42 WHQL , http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166853

Nvidia driver stops responding - GTX 680http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5151273582

napoleon total war freezing with GTX 680 http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/38763-napoleon-total-war-freezing

Congratulations. You found 3 cases of individuals with 680's having problems. That must have taken a long time.

FYI the latest beta driver doesn't fix the issues as AMD. AMD told me to be patient for the next CCC release, promising a fix. So much for that. I'm so glad I got rid of that card.