should I go with AMD or Intel ?

Go for an Intel Core 2 Duo.  They are the best processors available at the moment.

The inq compared e6300 and 5600+ , as they are in the $185 price range, and the AMD one won easily, the C2D has better OCing, but the Atlhon still better in this price, for The high-ends Intel is Much better. But if you can wait until Q3, the both will have new CPUs (Barcelona and Penryn)

You keep buying them because they're quality and they've lasted for a while not because you're blind. Thats why I'm sticking with AMD because I've had recent and previous success with them. Quit trying to make me sound like an idiot.sykonfc

Oh so you have Intel CPUs just blowup, crash and die all the time huh??  LOL  AMD is no better "quality" or has no longer "life spans" than Intel.  That's absurd.  All computer components last way longer than there usable life time anyway.  

[QUOTE="sykonfc"]You keep buying them because they're quality and they've lasted for a while not because you're blind. Thats why I'm sticking with AMD because I've had recent and previous success with them. Quit trying to make me sound like an idiot.basersx

Oh so you have Intel CPUs just blowup, crash and die all the time huh??  LOL  AMD is no better "quality" or has no longer "life spans" than Intel.  That's absurd.  All computer components last way longer than there usable life time anyway.  

I can speak to that! I just acquired a PC from 1994 w/a Pentium 75 and 24 MB of ram and glorious Win95...and it works great, lol. The inside was caked with dust but everything functions as good as new...even put a CD-Rom drive in there ;)

I have used AMD for about 10 years too but that is NO reason to keep buying them! Who cares what you have used in the past??!! C2D is better bang for the buck and I will be getting C2D for my next build.basersx

I agree with this, I've used amd since k62 but the c2d is allot better especially if you overclock it.

the things like 2 and a half times faster

wait for AMD's version of the C2D and then we will see what processers are best hehe I hate craptelLouieV13

^^ Again I just don't understand this.  If AMD does come out with new CPUs that offer better performance for money than C2D then I will be happy to buy them.  But right now Intel offers better bang for the buck so I'm happy to buy them.  Who the H cares about some stupid brand loyalty?!?!  Kia could start making CPUs and if they ran Windows and were good power for the money I would buy them!  Who cares about brand?!?!

It depends on what you like to do with your processors.

I am a fan of AMD because:

1. I have a tight budget. AMD tends to have cheaper, budget gaming processors.
2.  I do not overclock much, AMD processors tend to have higher base clock speeds than C2D for the same price

If you have a bigger budget then $150 (US) and like overclocking then go for a decent Intel C2D. If not, go for an AMD X2.

IMO of course. ;) 

doomsdaydave apparently you have not shopped or researched the CPU market in a while as it s now exactly the opposite of what you just said about AMD.

Oh so you have Intel CPUs just blowup, crash and die all the time huh?? LOL AMD is no better "quality" or has no longer "life spans" than Intel. That's absurd. All computer components last way longer than there usable life time anyway.

basersx

I don't know what your problem is but you sound like you enjoy insulting people because they have a brand loyalty. You my friend are coming off as an Intel fanboy by the way. Anyways, I do agree that people shouldn't buy because of the brand name but they do. I have friends who will buy nothing but Ford or Chevy and it is the same way in computers. Intel vs AMD, ATI vs NVidia, Seagate vs WD, etc. But just because someone has the brand loyalty doesn't mean you have a right to make them sound inferior because of their opinion. Now, if they flamed Intel you have all right but they have not done that yet.

Yes it is very true that I like insulting people for brand loyalty as it is childish and stupid.  And how can I be an Intel fan boy with 2 AMD systems listed in my sig?!?!

And it's a fact that C2D is better bang for the buck which makes everything that guys just said not true.  It was true before C2D came out and that is why it's obvious that it has been a while since he has researched the market! 

Yes it is very true that I like insulting people for brand loyalty as it is childish and stupid. And how can I be an Intel fan boy with 2 AMD systems listed in my sig?!?!

And it's a fact that C2D is better bang for the buck which makes everything that guys just said not true. It was true before C2D came out and that is why it's obvious that it has been a while since he has researched the market!

basersx

Hey, I have friends that have ATI based video cards but will swear to NVidia ever since the 8800s came out. Just because you have AMD processors doesn't mean you are not a Intel fanboy. 

[QUOTE="basersx"]

Yes it is very true that I like insulting people for brand loyalty as it is childish and stupid. And how can I be an Intel fan boy with 2 AMD systems listed in my sig?!?!

And it's a fact that C2D is better bang for the buck which makes everything that guys just said not true. It was true before C2D came out and that is why it's obvious that it has been a while since he has researched the market!

Cdscottie

Hey, I have friends that have ATI based video cards but will swear to NVidia ever since the 8800s came out. Just because you have AMD processors doesn't mean you are not a Intel fanboy.

Well as you can see by my post count I have been on here a long time.  Everyone will tell you I am a fan boy for what ever is the best bang for the buck, period!  And that changes every time there is a new product that comes out that offers better performance for the price.  But you would have to be an idiot to pay more money for less power just because of a brand!

 Right now C2D is better value than ANY AMD CPUs.  And the 8800GTS is better value than any ATI cards.  Yet all the DX9 ATI cards are better values than all the NVIDIA DX9 cards.  Again you will see I only favor what is the best power for the dollar and am completely blind as to who makes it.  This is the way every intelligent shopper is!

Sorry if that upsets your childish brand fanboy ways.  (actually I'm really not sorry) 

[QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="basersx"]

Yes it is very true that I like insulting people for brand loyalty as it is childish and stupid. And how can I be an Intel fan boy with 2 AMD systems listed in my sig?!?!

And it's a fact that C2D is better bang for the buck which makes everything that guys just said not true. It was true before C2D came out and that is why it's obvious that it has been a while since he has researched the market!

basersx

Hey, I have friends that have ATI based video cards but will swear to NVidia ever since the 8800s came out. Just because you have AMD processors doesn't mean you are not a Intel fanboy.

Well as you can see by my post count I have been on here a long time. Everyone will tell you I am a fan boy for what ever is the best bang for the buck, period! And that changes every time there is a new product that comes out that offers better performance for the price. But you would have to be an idiot to pay more money for less power just because of a brand!

Right now C2D is better value than ANY AMD CPUs.And the 8800GTS is better value than any ATI cards.Yet all the DX9 ATI cards are better values than all the NVIDIA DX9 cards.Again you will see I only favor what is the best power for the dollar and am completely blind as to who makes it.This is the way every intelligent shopper is!

Sorry if that upsets your childish brand fanboy ways. (actually I'm really not sorry)

Agreed on the best bang for your buck with the 8800s and core 2 duos, but will you agree that its not too feasible if you already have say a 939 slot motherboard to do a whole core 2 duo switch? 

[QUOTE="basersx"][QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="basersx"]

Yes it is very true that I like insulting people for brand loyalty as it is childish and stupid. And how can I be an Intel fan boy with 2 AMD systems listed in my sig?!?!

And it's a fact that C2D is better bang for the buck which makes everything that guys just said not true. It was true before C2D came out and that is why it's obvious that it has been a while since he has researched the market!

jfelisario

Hey, I have friends that have ATI based video cards but will swear to NVidia ever since the 8800s came out. Just because you have AMD processors doesn't mean you are not a Intel fanboy.

Well as you can see by my post count I have been on here a long time. Everyone will tell you I am a fan boy for what ever is the best bang for the buck, period! And that changes every time there is a new product that comes out that offers better performance for the price. But you would have to be an idiot to pay more money for less power just because of a brand!

Right now C2D is better value than ANY AMD CPUs.And the 8800GTS is better value than any ATI cards.Yet all the DX9 ATI cards are better values than all the NVIDIA DX9 cards.Again you will see I only favor what is the best power for the dollar and am completely blind as to who makes it.This is the way every intelligent shopper is!

Sorry if that upsets your childish brand fanboy ways. (actually I'm really not sorry)

Agreed on the best bang for your buck with the 8800s and core 2 duos, but will you agree that its not too feasible if you already have say a 939 slot motherboard to do a whole core 2 duo switch?

Well of course!  If you have S939 or AM2 and just want a faster CPU without having to get a new board, RAM etc you just buy another CPU that fits your board.  That was never the issue.  I'm stuck with S939 myself and would buy a 4800+ for it but as we talked about in another thread they are all but gone from all sellers.  And a 4200+ or 4400+ is not enough of an upgrade to bother with.

So if I can't find a 4800+ I will just buy a whole new board and go C2D.  If I'm going to have to get a new board and RAM anyway I'm certainly not going to go with AM2 over C2D because C2D is better power for money, like we keep talking about.

I am sorry to inform you but I am far from a fan boy. I was just pointing out how you were coming across.Cdscottie

Sorry but I'm not that concerned how I come across to a guy with only 132 posts... 

[QUOTE="jfelisario"][QUOTE="basersx"][QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="basersx"]

Yes it is very true that I like insulting people for brand loyalty as it is childish and stupid. And how can I be an Intel fan boy with 2 AMD systems listed in my sig?!?!

And it's a fact that C2D is better bang for the buck which makes everything that guys just said not true. It was true before C2D came out and that is why it's obvious that it has been a while since he has researched the market!

basersx

Hey, I have friends that have ATI based video cards but will swear to NVidia ever since the 8800s came out. Just because you have AMD processors doesn't mean you are not a Intel fanboy.

Well as you can see by my post count I have been on here a long time. Everyone will tell you I am a fan boy for what ever is the best bang for the buck, period! And that changes every time there is a new product that comes out that offers better performance for the price. But you would have to be an idiot to pay more money for less power just because of a brand!

Right now C2D is better value than ANY AMD CPUs.And the 8800GTS is better value than any ATI cards.Yet all the DX9 ATI cards are better values than all the NVIDIA DX9 cards.Again you will see I only favor what is the best power for the dollar and am completely blind as to who makes it.This is the way every intelligent shopper is!

Sorry if that upsets your childish brand fanboy ways. (actually I'm really not sorry)

Agreed on the best bang for your buck with the 8800s and core 2 duos, but will you agree that its not too feasible if you already have say a 939 slot motherboard to do a whole core 2 duo switch?

Well of course! If you have S939 or AM2 and just want a faster CPU without having to get a new board, RAM etc you just buy another CPU that fits your board. That was never the issue. I'm stuck with S939 myself and would buy a 4800+ for it but as we talked about in another thread they are all but gone from all sellers.And a 4200+ or 4400+ is not enough of an upgrade to bother with.

So if I can't find a 4800+ I will just buy a whole new board and go C2D. If I'm going to have to get a new board and RAM anyway I'm certainly not going to go with AM2 over C2D because C2D is better power for money, like we keep talking about.

No point waiting for the next best thing on the horizon when there's something that gives superior performance now eh? :) 

AMD's recent pricecuts are putting their processors at comparative performance levels to the intel C2D's around the same price. And on the AMD side, it's much easier to get a quality motherboard for less money than what you'd pay for a C2D-compatible motherboard.

On the intel side, nVidia needed to make the 680i to finally have a good SLi-supporting motherboard for the intel platform. The 590SLi is still plenty fine for people on AMD 939/754/AM2 chips.

Intel is currently the better benchmarker at the moment, and comparing the Core 2 Quads vs. AMD's 4x4 platform is pretty one-sided (against AMD). But both companies are supposed to be having new processors soon.

I will always root for AMD's success, and have no problem with going with them. But with the 680i, I'd have to be blind not to have gone that route this time around. 

AMD's recent pricecuts are putting their processors at comparative performance levels to the intel C2D's around the same price. And on the AMD side, it's much easier to get a quality motherboard for less money than what you'd pay for a C2D-compatible motherboard.

On the intel side, nVidia needed to make the 680i to finally have a good SLi-supporting motherboard for the intel platform. The 590SLi is still plenty fine for people on AMD 939/754/AM2 chips.

Intel is currently the better benchmarker at the moment, and comparing the Core 2 Quads vs. AMD's 4x4 platform is pretty one-sided (against AMD). But both companies are supposed to be having new processors soon.

I will always root for AMD's success, and have no problem with going with them. But with the 680i, I'd have to be blind not to have gone that route this time around.

codezer0

we'll just have to wait a day or two to see if the intel price cuts do take hold. 

[QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="basersx"]

Yes it is very true that I like insulting people for brand loyalty as it is childish and stupid. And how can I be an Intel fan boy with 2 AMD systems listed in my sig?!?!

And it's a fact that C2D is better bang for the buck which makes everything that guys just said not true. It was true before C2D came out and that is why it's obvious that it has been a while since he has researched the market!

basersx

Hey, I have friends that have ATI based video cards but will swear to NVidia ever since the 8800s came out. Just because you have AMD processors doesn't mean you are not a Intel fanboy.

Well as you can see by my post count I have been on here a long time. Everyone will tell you I am a fan boy for what ever is the best bang for the buck, period! And that changes every time there is a new product that comes out that offers better performance for the price. But you would have to be an idiot to pay more money for less power just because of a brand!

Right now C2D is better value than ANY AMD CPUs.And the 8800GTS is better value than any ATI cards.Yet all the DX9 ATI cards are better values than all the NVIDIA DX9 cards.Again you will see I only favor what is the best power for the dollar and am completely blind as to who makes it.This is the way every intelligent shopper is!

Sorry if that upsets your childish brand fanboy ways. (actually I'm really not sorry)

It depends on what you like to do with your processors.

I am a fan of AMD because:

1. I have a tight budget. AMD tends to have cheaper, budget gaming processors.
2. I do not overclock much, AMD processors tend to have higher base clock speeds than C2D for the same price

If you have a bigger budget then $150 (US) and like overclocking then go for a decent Intel C2D. If not, go for an AMD X2.

IMO of course. ;)

doomsdaydave11

Higher clock speed between 2 different CPU means nothing. 

If you plan on overclocking with the stock fan, get a nice mobo, and get the C2D. Ive heard that you can overclock that baby at past 3.2Ghz, which would make it more powerful than the Core 2 extreme X6800. WHOA. However, If you dont want to void your warranty, go with AMD. the 6000 is better than the E6600 at stock speeds. but at the moment, when it comes to ultra high end processors, AMD cant compete with Intel353535355353535

Sure they can, who really needs a Quad-Core? The guy is asking which BRAND he should be going with, not the processor of each brand. He never stated that he planned to buy the best CPU out there, nor did he mention what he plans to do with his massive CPU power. I'm sure that he won't get a Quad-Core, if he was deciding on getting a Quad-Core, he wouldn't have any questions for/about AMD, since AMD hasn't released any Quad-Core processor, as of yet. Soon, AMD will be able to compete with the QX6800, like one of the posters stated above, "This will future proof your system because AM3 hardware (the new Agena and Kumo desktop quadcore processors) will be backwards compatible with AM2 motherboards.". Most AMD users are using AM2 motherboards, I'm pretty sure that they will decide to switch to the Agena and Kumo processors, since AMD has always been great with prices). Until then, everyone will most likely stick with dual-core processors, until given a good enough reason why they shouldn't stick with their current processor/motherboard.

everyone has thier opinions between amd and intel. this means there is not a huge difference between the two. therefore, im buying a 4200 for socket 939 and waiting a year to upgrade everything when the processor race reaches true next gen dimensions

(and when the price goes lower, lol) 

[QUOTE="Cdscottie"]I am sorry to inform you but I am far from a fan boy. I was just pointing out how you were coming across.basersx

What does my post count have to do with anything? It looks like your post count came from slamming other people. When I post I try to share a fair opinion or use my knowledge to help someone with a question. I agree with you that it is best to get the best bang for your buck but I also let people have brand loyalty as they will not change their opinion.

Sorry but I'm not that concerned how I come across to a guy with only 132 posts...

What does my post count have to do with anything? I have been around these forums for a long while, I just don't post that often. Plus, I work in the IT industry and see brand loyalty all of the time. I agree that you should look for the best bang for your buck no matter what the brand is but I let people have their brand loyalty as their mind is already made up. I don't usually like arguing it to much as you can see from the result of our conversation. Anyways, sorry if I annoyed you in any way, I was just trying to stick up for the people you were attacking/insulting.

"best bang for your buck" I prefer the phrase "Cheap Bastard"

It's got a much nicer ring to it.

"best bang for your buck" I prefer the phrase "Cheap Bastard"

It's got a much nicer ring to it.

Random__Guy

Well Best bang doesn't always mean cheap. Hell, I own a X1900XT and it wasn't cheap but it was damn well worth the money. At the time the NVidia equivlant cost about $100 more so I got the best bang for my buck there.

"best bang for your buck" I prefer the phrase "Cheap Bastard"

It's got a much nicer ring to it.

Random__Guy

some of us dont have a lot of money to spend on something so insignificant as gaming, so i guess that makes you  a rich bastard,  

[QUOTE="Random__Guy"]

"best bang for your buck" I prefer the phrase "Cheap Bastard"

It's got a much nicer ring to it.

tigerballer

some of us dont have a lot of money to spend on something so insignificant as gaming, so i guess that makes you a rich bastard,

Oh no, i'm most deffinatly a member of the cheap bastard guild.

I'm probably the cheapest basterd in here.

I only buy something if it's on sale and I hate to confess but if i see something in the dumpster i like, I dont hesitate to jump in.

Intel Core 2 Duo Price drops:At Overclock.net

Don't forget, their E2160 or whatever is coming out, and at less then 100 bucks, and its more powerful then the X2 3600+: Overclocked to 3ghz

Excited I AM!

After reading this interesting thread. Lots of great points and ofcourse bad ones. But one person stuck out and ruined the thread. BaseRSX...... with childish posts.9mmSpliff

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"]After reading this interesting thread. Lots of great points and ofcourse bad ones. But one person stuck out and ruined the thread. BaseRSX...... with childish posts.codezer0

pretty much!!

I accidently deleted that post, as I am a tad buzzed here. Thank goodness you replied, so it could be seen. :o

I am building a new PC and I want to know if Amd is better than Intel.henri1960

Intels slightly better but its also more expensive. If you have a budget or don't wanna spend as much get AMD cause the difference is minimal.