Should I pre-order Black Ops 2?

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#1 Xiumph
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Heres my thing I'm a PC gamer at heart I love my rig and the games and the felxibility with my own system, however there is so much hype over the CoD series and from research I came to really like the ranking system and multiplayer. So I was considering of Pre-Ordering from my Best Buy (just because im part employed there) and playing exclusively on my PC.

I heard rumours that Treyarch is really doing a lot with the PC platform as far as functionality and support and that made my bells ring. I really want to have a great CoD experiance on my home PC. I also recently purchased my Razer Onza and a XB360 Wireless Receiver for my PC and would really like to try this out for a long-term played game.

What are your thoughts? (:

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#2 biggest_loser
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Buy something else. Anything. I beg of you!! It looks like the most banal, boring and unimaginative COD to date. We have to find a way to get people to stop buying these games, at least at full price. In two years time I don't want to be playing the same COD game, next gen. It ends tonight!!
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#3 --Anna--
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The last time I pre-ordered was FarCry 2. I never pre-order now.

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#4 free_milk
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Buy something else. Anything. I beg of you!! It looks like the most banal, boring and unimaginative COD to date. We have to find a way to get people to stop buying these games, at least at full price. In two years time I don't want to be playing the same COD game, next gen. It ends tonight!! biggest_loser
I agree.He should atleast wait till the winter sale and buy a better game instead.
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Heres my thing I'm a PC gamer at heart I love my rig and the games and the felxibility with my own system, however there is so much hype over the CoD series and from research I came to really like the ranking system and multiplayer. So I was considering of Pre-Ordering from my Best Buy (just because im part employed there) and playing exclusively on my PC.

I heard rumours that Treyarch is really doing a lot with the PC platform as far as functionality and support and that made my bells ring. I really want to have a great CoD experiance on my home PC. I also recently purchased my Razer Onza and a XB360 Wireless Receiver for my PC and would really like to try this out for a long-term played game.

What are your thoughts? (:

Xiumph

I have it pre-orderded. Got a good price for it too. You get a few bonuses with pre-order.

I don't care if people say it's the same thing every year. These people must not watch TV Shows. It might be the same engine and the same gameplay, but every year it looks better, and they add stuff to the gameplay to change it around. Remember, you are also getting 3 games in one. SP Campaign which is a fun 6-7 hour story, MP and Zombies which give you endless hours of fun.

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PC is full of cheaters on CoD, they don't bother to even try and stop it, the series is barely alive on PC. if you want CoD its Xbox, simple as really.
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#7 FelipeInside
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PC is full of cheaters on CoD, they don't bother to even try and stop it, the series is barely alive on PC. if you want CoD its Xbox, simple as really.MBirdy88
Barely alive on PC? Yesterday my friend played Black Ops 1 and the servers were full. People still play MW3 and CoD4, and lots of them. (I agree they should make a better cheat system)
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#8 mhofever
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[QUOTE="Xiumph"]

Heres my thing I'm a PC gamer at heart I love my rig and the games and the felxibility with my own system, however there is so much hype over the CoD series and from research I came to really like the ranking system and multiplayer. So I was considering of Pre-Ordering from my Best Buy (just because im part employed there) and playing exclusively on my PC.

I heard rumours that Treyarch is really doing a lot with the PC platform as far as functionality and support and that made my bells ring. I really want to have a great CoD experiance on my home PC. I also recently purchased my Razer Onza and a XB360 Wireless Receiver for my PC and would really like to try this out for a long-term played game.

What are your thoughts? (:

FelipeInside

I have it pre-orderded. Got a good price for it too. You get a few bonuses with pre-order.

I don't care if people say it's the same thing every year. These people must not watch TV Shows. It might be the same engine and the same gameplay, but every year it looks better, and they add stuff to the gameplay to change it around. Remember, you are also getting 3 games in one. SP Campaign which is a fun 6-7 hour story, MP and Zombies which give you endless hours of fun.

Agreed. You do get a lot out of it for the price. MP, SP and zombie co-op.

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#9 Baranga
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It looks like the most banal, boring and unimaginative COD to date. biggest_loser

It's the opposite, actually.

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#10 HyperWarlock
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]It looks like the most banal, boring and unimaginative COD to date. Baranga

It's the opposite, actually.

this, treyarch are actually doing a lot of good to the game this time around, you should look into the game a little.

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#11 mep69
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No.
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#12 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]It looks like the most banal, boring and unimaginative COD to date. HyperWarlock

It's the opposite, actually.

this, treyarch are actually doing a lot of good to the game this time around, you should look into the game a little.

To me, this is just Modern Warfare 2, repackaged with some new toys

http://youtu.be/d7fTgR6Tq98

Horses, rail guns and whatever else will just be gimmicks glued to a stale franchise.

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#13 QQabitmoar
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If you've played any CoD game after 4, you've already played it. It's up to you if you're into that sort of thing. But I would suggest investing in better games.

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#14 FelipeInside
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If you've played any CoD game after 4, you've already played it. It's up to you if you're into that sort of thing. But I would suggest investing in better games.

QQabitmoar
Better games in what? CoD still is probably the best, or in the top 3, military shooter out there. Like it or not, it's still sells millions of copies each year cause it does most things right.
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[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

If you've played any CoD game after 4, you've already played it. It's up to you if you're into that sort of thing. But I would suggest investing in better games.

FelipeInside

Better games in what? CoD still is probably the best, or in the top 3, military shooter out there. Like it or not, it's still sells millions of copies each year cause it does most things right.

I'll admit I like a good COD game.

But After COD4 it has all started to go downhill.

IF it isn't the gameplay-lag (modern Warfare 2-3)

Then its the crappy optimization/performance (WAW, Black Ops I)

I would really love for Black Ops II to be a great COD. And not have the crappy performance of the first one. But I feel the COD franchise itself, is not worth pre-ordering. Because Modern Warfare 2, and 3, were basically (limited) expansion packs that didn't deserve the $60 price tag, as well as $15 for map packs.

(I do think BO II will bring some new stuff to the table, but lets hope they fixes its previous mistakes, and problems in the series too)

I would really like a good COD game (cause its been a while), but I refuse to get my hopes up much. If it comes I would rather be surprised at a good COD game like I was with COD4. This is just my personal opinion though.

Also if there are no user-made maps, and mods for it, then I don't know if I will do it this time. That is one of the main thing missing from COD4, that I haven't seen much of lately.

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#16 True_Sounds
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Regarding cheaters, BLOPS2 uses VAC anticheat which has a great track record so I would not worry about that. If you don't care about not getting the exclusive map I suppose it would be smart to wait on reviews, but if you love their unique arcade like mp style I would just get it right now! :D

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#17 FelipeInside
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Regarding cheaters, BLOPS2 uses VAC anticheat which has a great track record so I would not worry about that. If you don't care about not getting the exclusive map I suppose it would be smart to wait on reviews, but if you love their unique arcade like mp style I would just get it right now! :D

True_Sounds
Did Black Ops 1 use the same anti-cheat system? Cause if so then my hopes aren't too high. I've seen cheaters in Blops1 as well sadly.
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#18 QQabitmoar
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[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

If you've played any CoD game after 4, you've already played it. It's up to you if you're into that sort of thing. But I would suggest investing in better games.

FelipeInside

Better games in what? CoD still is probably the best, or in the top 3, military shooter out there. Like it or not, it's still sells millions of copies each year cause it does most things right.

It sells millions of copies because of activision's marketing department. You do realise the vast majority of people who play CoD don't even know that there were other consoles before the 360 and the ps3, right? Now about better games or CoD being in the top 3 military shooters, that's a matter of opinion.

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#19 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

If you've played any CoD game after 4, you've already played it. It's up to you if you're into that sort of thing. But I would suggest investing in better games.

QQabitmoar

Better games in what? CoD still is probably the best, or in the top 3, military shooter out there. Like it or not, it's still sells millions of copies each year cause it does most things right.

It sells millions of copies because of activision's marketing department. You do realise the vast majority of people who play CoD don't even know that there were other consoles before the 360 and the ps3, right? Now about better games or CoD being in the top 3 military shooters, that's a matter of opinion.

"Now about better games or CoD being in the top 3 military shooters, that's a matter of opinion." EXACTLY, like you said there are better games to invest in = matter of opinion. And it doesn't sell just because of marketing (although it helps), it sells cause people like it, simple. People aren't going to keep buying a product that doesn't fulfill their gaming enjoyment. That's why I said it's probably the best or top 3, cause it just does most things right every time (even if it's similar)
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#20 nutcrackr
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Regarding cheaters, BLOPS2 uses VAC anticheat which has a great track record so I would not worry about that. If you don't care about not getting the exclusive map I suppose it would be smart to wait on reviews, but if you love their unique arcade like mp style I would just get it right now! :D

True_Sounds
iirc mw3 used vac anti cheat and had loads of cheaters. VAC works but it needs developers to be actively adding cheats to the database. The numbers, Mason! What do they mean?
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#21 HyperWarlock
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

If you've played any CoD game after 4, you've already played it. It's up to you if you're into that sort of thing. But I would suggest investing in better games.

QQabitmoar

Better games in what? CoD still is probably the best, or in the top 3, military shooter out there. Like it or not, it's still sells millions of copies each year cause it does most things right.

It sells millions of copies because of activision's marketing department. You do realise the vast majority of people who play CoD don't even know that there were other consoles before the 360 and the ps3, right? Now about better games or CoD being in the top 3 military shooters, that's a matter of opinion.

False. Kids who own 360's and PS3's most likley played PS2's or Gamecube. Just because it's mainly kids who enjoy it means squat. They are still people enjoying a game like you or I.

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#23 slabber44
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I'm not big on CoD series, but I am totally against pre-purchasing any game that I'm not confident in (here lately very few). It's always better to be cautious when not sure of a certain title. I'm sure many here on these forums can give you horror stories on bad pre-purchases. Me included! Patience is hard, but worth it in the long haul. Just my two cents.
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#24 FelipeInside
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I'm not big on CoD series, but I am totally against pre-purchasing any game that I'm not confident in (here lately very few). It's always better to be cautious when not sure of a certain title. I'm sure many here on these forums can give you horror stories on bad pre-purchases. Me included! Patience is hard, but worth it in the long haul. Just my two cents.slabber44
I agree with holding off until reviews are out. The other side to that coin is that you sometimes get some cool stuff with pre-orders.
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#25 Baranga
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You'd think PC gamers would be more optimistic about COD. It's the only successful run and gun FPS right now!

I played 55 hours of BLOPS online and 53 of them were FFA...

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#26 FelipeInside
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You'd think PC gamers would be more optimistic about COD. It's the only successful run and gun FPS right now!

I played 55 hours of BLOPS online and 53 of them were FFA...

Baranga
To be a PC Gamer and be optimistic is NOT COOL. Haven't you learned that from these forums yet? You need to bash every single game that comes out, duh....
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] To be a PC Gamer and be optimistic is NOT COOL. Haven't you learned that from these forums yet? You need to bash every single game that comes out, duh....

Yet you see many here jump all over new releases and praise them like they were game of the decade. That is until the next flavour of the month arrives and that game gets the same treament. The users on this forum do nothing by halves. It's either hate or love with very little in between.
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#28 GamerZem
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No.

If I were you, I would wait until Black Friday or Christmas, that way all your money isn't wasted.

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The fact we have to wait for Treyarch to innovate is just sad.
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#30 FelipeInside
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The fact we have to wait for Treyarch to innovate is just sad. MythPro1
Depends what you define "innovate" as. Is innovation the same as optimization? the same as tweaking. I'm not talking about CoD here, but let's take FIFA for example. It's basically the same game each year since it's based on football matches. BUT, each year they add stuff here and there, remove stuff that wasn't popular, tweak this and that, etc etc. Which makes it refreshing, better (or worse in some cases) and still sells millions. Remember, a game doesn't always have to innovate to be good. It can just take the formula and tweak it better.
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#31 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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3rd topic about BOps 2 for me, same answer. I will be preordering it in a day or 2. Treyarch has some really cool ideas this time around. The pick 10 system looks great.
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#32 Sweetbackhair
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I think I would rather wait for it on sale just to get it, I'm getting sick and tired of the same old games
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Depends upon your cognitive ability to exercise rational decisions.

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I think I would rather wait for it on sale just to get it, I'm getting sick and tired of the same old gamesSweetbackhair
Thing is, it's rare for a CoD Game to go on sale, lol....
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#35 synxz
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Pre order was often not a good idea. Always wait for user submitted gameplay vids and reviews. And this time it's a COD..so that's a no if you're a smart buyer.
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I'm not big on CoD series, but I am totally against pre-purchasing any game that I'm not confident in (here lately very few). It's always better to be cautious when not sure of a certain title. I'm sure many here on these forums can give you horror stories on bad pre-purchases. Me included! Patience is hard, but worth it in the long haul. Just my two cents.slabber44
This. Better to wait and see what it turns out like.
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#37 skrat_01
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Question: Do you want to play more Call of Duty? A: No. B: Yes. Pick one.
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#38 Starshine_M2A2
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You get the Nuketown map if you preorder right? That's the only reason I would do so. Although that map alone isn't enough to convince me, really...

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You'd think PC gamers would be more optimistic about COD. It's the only successful run and gun FPS right now!

I played 55 hours of BLOPS online and 53 of them were FFA...

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People who make PC hacks for CoD are VERY optimistic - it's an opportunity to make hundreds of thousands in profit!
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[QUOTE="Sweetbackhair"]I think I would rather wait for it on sale just to get it, I'm getting sick and tired of the same old gamesFelipeInside
Thing is, it's rare for a CoD Game to go on sale, lol....

I know for MW3, they did free to play weekend on Steam which had it 50% off and I've seen that a couple times so far.
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Why would you? Is there some fantastic preorder bonus? If not just wait until a day after release or something so you can know if it's at least functional.
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#42 FelipeInside
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Why would you? Is there some fantastic preorder bonus? If not just wait until a day after release or something so you can know if it's at least functional.guynamedbilly
Just the Nuketown map free for pre-orders.
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#43 mhofever
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Just a heads up, pre-load for the game is now available.

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#44 Baranga
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PC unlock schedule:

Retail:

Asia/Pacific
Nov 12 03:00am PST (Midnight 11/13 NZDT)

Europe / Russia / CIS / Africa
Nov 12 12:00pm PST (Midnight 11/13 MSK)

North America / South America
Nov 12 09:00pm PST (Midnight 11/13 EST)

Japan
Nov 21 07:00am PST (Midnight 11/22 JST)


Steam Store:

Asia/Pacific
Nov 12 05:00am PST (Midnight 11/13 EDT)

Europe / Russia / CIS / Africa
Nov 12 4:00pm PST (Midnight 11/13 GMT)

North America / South America
Nov 13 12:01am PST (Midnight 11/13 PST)

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#45 gamebreakerz__
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I thought it was funny when Treyarch talked about how they were making an effort with the PC version, saying it will have higher resolution, framerate, better lighting etc. As if this isn't standard with 99% of PC multiplats? We want to see physics, high res textures, LAN play. Unfortunately COD will always be in the stone age until they upgrade their prehistoric engine.
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#46 jer_1
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Too man suckers in this world...obviously.

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#47 FelipeInside
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Too man suckers in this world...obviously.

jer_1
So because a person enjoys a game, and buys that game to enjoy it he's a sucker?
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#48 jakes456
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Black Ops is a good game for a 2 year old. I say go for it.

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#49 FelipeInside
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Black Ops is a good game for a 2 year old. I say go for it.

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Then you must have the CE.
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#50 ShadowsDemon
Member since 2012 • 10059 Posts
Stay away dude. Stay well away.