So i played kane and lynch 2 demo.

So, it was short, perhaps shorter than the console version, its very badly optimized, the loadscreens are long, the framerate is low and it memory leaks when i look around sometimes.

The camera was a big mess with visual annoyances jumping around and the combat? You basicly take cover and shoot at the right time or you get hit and fall down and you have to press a button to stand up. It felt very specifc and the graphics are not even as good as they looked like. I am highly dissapointing, i was hoping it will be better than the first game, but it felt too specific and badly designed, perhaps they managed to make it worse than the first :(

In the good parts however the ai is agressive and can quickly get behind you and kill you. So i you can play by its rules, you might enjoy its hardcore gameplay.

You are wrong...thats all.

Seriously thoe I don't agree with any of your points(what a surprise.) The game ran fine for me, I don't know were your getting this badly optimized stuff from. I ran the game at full setting 1080p at 40-60 FPS on my 4870 512mb E8400 3.0ghz. The camera and "visual annoyances" are their to make the game seem more hectic, and it does a very good job if you ask me. You can turn most of this stuff off, but you are missing the point of the game if you did that. This game is just like any other third person shooter on the market. Maybe you just don't like third person shooters?

Sorry but i am not wrong, more people have problems with the perfomance and say its a bad port. Also a ton of people can come out and say that the visual annoyances are annoying and its not like any other third person shooter. Also i played too many third person shooter including the first and they are nothing like this game. Infact the camera is worse, the way the character falls down when you get hit is annoying and nothing like other third person shooters and in my opinion the visual annoyances are giving you a hard time to see the level design of the game. Sadly there is no way to turn it off. Also its funniy how you say that those visuals are "the point of the game" and "This game is just like any other third person shooter on the market. Maybe you just don't like third person shooters?" Because IT IS NOT like all other first person shooters, infact saying that i have the problem is insulting to me. So tell me, falling down when you hit is like all the other third person shooters eh? Pressing c to get up is like al lthe other third person shooters eh? Not to mention that third person shooter that you take cover are too similar to each other but kane any lynch 2 is nothiling like them. So sorry, but you are wrong, i am glad it run well for you, but its a fact its badly optimized and its nothing like most third person shooters in the market.dakan45

You're the only one who says it's badly optimized. Dakan, I respect your opinion and everything, but it does get annoying when you start arguing with everyone who disagrees with your opinion. Just stop... please... for the sake of not arguing... :D

Oh and the falling down is actually realistic, especially since it happens when you get hit with a shotgun ;)

I ran the game maxed out just fine. The only visual annoyance of any kind might be the lights, but I got over that in a matter of seconds. Regarding the falling down when I got hit, I didn't find this to be annoying, but it just added a different element to combat I guess. The game really didn't interest me too much, so I will probably pick it up in the future when I can find it cheap.

It has an interesting artstyle but is just too exagerated, it really gets annoying in some parts; sometimes you want to actually see whats in front you but the game just don't let you. You run for 3 seconds and the camera gets all blurred like your character has some horrible case of high blood pressure, then there is the simulation of a cell-phone camera with all the little errors and the annoying distorted light. It is irritating, but i wouldn't say based on that, that is a bad game. Itis not anugly game to look at but playing it is a different story.I'd say is not that great game simply because the shooting is not good, it feel weightless with far too much spraying just like CoD; also animations are kinda awkward and the camera is always set at an uncomfortable position. Seens to me that they ditched a lot of good ideas from the first game to make it more like a GoW clone, they should have sticked more with the Freedom Fighters formula rather than making the choice to be a pure TPS clone.

Performance wise i think it runs pretty well provided you have a decent CPU, after i replaced mine it stays mostly at 60fps on highest w/ 1440x900 + 4AA but I do have to say that framerate can be very unstable in some parts. Regarding being or not a bad port, i think that not having a chat option reveals it being a grotesque and crappy port.

[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]You're the only one who says it's badly optimized. Dakan, I respect your opinion and everything, but it does get annoying when you start arguing with everyone who disagrees with your opinion. Just stop... please... for the sake of not arguing... :D

Oh and the falling down is actually realistic, especially since it happens when you get hit with a shotgun ;)

dakan45

I'll agree with you that I haven't seen falling down when being hit in any other 3rd person shooters that I remember. I could see how some might not like that feature, but mabe they intended it to be a little more realistic.

On a side note...Calm down man, its just the interent lol.

[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]You're the only one who says it's badly optimized. Dakan, I respect your opinion and everything, but it does get annoying when you start arguing with everyone who disagrees with your opinion. Just stop... please... for the sake of not arguing... :D

Oh and the falling down is actually realistic, especially since it happens when you get hit with a shotgun ;)

dakan45

you get hit the assault rifles and falll down and with shotgun, i couldnt give a raths ass if its teallistic, it does not happen in any other third person games [...] i got tired of this crap. Its irritating.

dakan45

iirc, this also occurs in Mafia (1)

pre-ordered w/o trying demo

[QUOTE="dakan45"] you get hit the assault rifles and falll down and with shotgun, i couldnt give a raths ass if its teallistic, it does not happen in any other third person games [...] i got tired of this crap. Its irritating.

JackBurton

iirc, this also occurs in Mafia (1)

pre-ordered w/o trying demo

Sorry but i am not wrong, more people have problems with the perfomance and say its a bad port. Also a ton of people can come out and say that the visual annoyances are annoying and its not like any other third person shooter. Also i played too many third person shooter including the first and they are nothing like this game. Infact the camera is worse, the way the character falls down when you get hit is annoying and nothing like other third person shooters and in my opinion the visual annoyances are giving you a hard time to see the level design of the game. Sadly there is no way to turn it off. Also its funniy how you say that those visuals are "the point of the game" and "This game is just like any other third person shooter on the market. Maybe you just don't like third person shooters?" Because IT IS NOT like all other first person shooters, infact saying that i have the problem is insulting to me. So tell me, falling down when you hit is like all the other third person shooters eh? Pressing c to get up is like al lthe other third person shooters eh? Not to mention that third person shooter that you take cover are too similar to each other but kane any lynch 2 is nothiling like them. So sorry, but you are wrong, i am glad it run well for you, but its a fact its badly optimized and its nothing like most third person shooters in the market.dakan45

Seems like you are trying to pass off your opinion as fact.

I ran the demo perfectly, I loved pretty much every second of it.

The art style was gritty, the gunplay was fun and hectic. I couldn't really see any bad points tbh, as far as third person shooters go this looks to be a very good one.

Its..... A..... Demo......

I dont know how many times Ive hated a demo and loved the final game.

Some demos are a year old or more.

I suggest playing demos with a grain of salt..

Also just because it doesnt run well on your pc doesnt realy mean that everyone else runs the game bad.

Im not very interested in this game to be honest, but I dont find the pc version to be worse then the console versino of the demo that I tried.

[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]You're the only one who says it's badly optimized. Dakan, I respect your opinion and everything, but it does get annoying when you start arguing with everyone who disagrees with your opinion. Just stop... please... for the sake of not arguing... :D

Oh and the falling down is actually realistic, especially since it happens when you get hit with a shotgun ;)

dakan45

I played the demo before you did ;)

But ok, I give in, although the falling down factor is not very good, especially since you have to press a button to get up, it's not a gamebreaker.

But please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD....dont defend games you never played with crap points like that, you get hit the assault rifles and falll down and with shotgun, i couldnt give a raths ass if its teallistic, it does not happen in any other third person games, neither your are on the ground and crawl and press c to stand up. Atlest have the courage to aknowledge that rather turning anything against me, i got tired of this crap. Its irritating.

dakan45

Sorry, but why the fudge should developers of third person shooters stick to a set template? Because players are familiar with it? Playing the same mechanics gets boring. I'll welcome something new, even if it is something as small as falling on your rear end.

I think the feature makes sense. Unlike the first game when you get shot and fall on one knee, it's now up to you to get back up again before getting killed. Therefore you no longer have to depend on problematic AI to revive you, and you can now shoot while down. As a result it keeps you involved in the game, and it saves you braying like a donkey when the AI fails.

The demo ran fine for me also.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Sorry but i am not wrong, more people have problems with the perfomance and say its a bad port. Also a ton of people can come out and say that the visual annoyances are annoying and its not like any other third person shooter. Also i played too many third person shooter including the first and they are nothing like this game. Infact the camera is worse, the way the character falls down when you get hit is annoying and nothing like other third person shooters and in my opinion the visual annoyances are giving you a hard time to see the level design of the game. Sadly there is no way to turn it off. Also its funniy how you say that those visuals are "the point of the game" and "This game is just like any other third person shooter on the market. Maybe you just don't like third person shooters?" Because IT IS NOT like all other first person shooters, infact saying that i have the problem is insulting to me. So tell me, falling down when you hit is like all the other third person shooters eh? Pressing c to get up is like al lthe other third person shooters eh? Not to mention that third person shooter that you take cover are too similar to each other but kane any lynch 2 is nothiling like them. So sorry, but you are wrong, i am glad it run well for you, but its a fact its badly optimized and its nothing like most third person shooters in the market.lucfonzy

Seems like you are trying to pass off your opinion as fact.

I ran the demo perfectly, I loved pretty much every second of it.

The art style was gritty, the gunplay was fun and hectic. I couldn't really see any bad points tbh, as far as third person shooters go this looks to be a very good one.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]
But please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD....dont defend games you never played with crap points like that, you get hit the assault rifles and falll down and with shotgun, i couldnt give a raths ass if its teallistic, it does not happen in any other third person games, neither your are on the ground and crawl and press c to stand up. Atlest have the courage to aknowledge that rather turning anything against me, i got tired of this crap. Its irritating.

Tresca_

Sorry, but why the fudge should developers of third person shooters stick to a set template? Because players are familiar with it? Playing the same mechanics gets boring. I'll welcome something new, even if it is something as small as falling on your rear end.

I think the feature makes sense. Unlike the first game when you get shot and fall on one knee, it's now up to you to get back up again before getting killed. Therefore you no longer have to depend on problematic AI to revive you, and you can now shoot while down. As a result it keeps you involved in the game, and it saves you braying like a donkey when the AI fails.

The demo ran fine for me also.

its meant to look grainy, as if you are looking at cctv

its meant to look grainy, as if you are looking at cctv

Chris898

Ok maybe it's not an "art style" per se but it is a very different way of viewing and playing a game. It adds to the atmosphere.

Anyways, we live in modern times, art takes many forms, many things can be considered "art".

That's not to say modern art is good, because how is a messy bed nice to look at or worthy of recognition, but i like what they've done with Kane and Lynch, it's the little details that create the game. I personally loved the pixelated faces on innocents (noticed it in the multiplayer)

Also, the multiplayer game modes seem rather innovative, but I wouldn't buy it for the mp at all.

I haven't tried the demo so I can't comment. I avoid demos knowing that half the time they are unoptimised rubbish. Take for example ARMA2 demo, worst sample of play ever. Yet the full game patched runs nicely.
I am on the fence about Kane & Lynch 2, awaiting some reviews of the full game both from reviewers and the public.

its optimized fine, but even the console fans didnt like it much. It runs at some super low res on console, and looks horrible. The controls with a gamepad are also horrid. Game seeems unfinished on all platforms, a true multiplat, but unimpressive.

Badly optimised ?

Even my 2 year old laptop can run it maxed-out with aa off :

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