So Syndicate is a shooter now....

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#1 koospetoors
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www.gamespot.com/news/6333763/syndicate-revamp-coming-in-early-2012?tag=updates%3Beditor%3Ball%3Btitle%3B2

I bet some fans of the original games aren't very happy about this, while I don't really mind the change (never played Syndicate and Syndicate Wars) I'm still a tad disappointed that it won't be the same strategy game it was, there's more than enough shooters in the market and I'm not too keen on another one.

So, what are your thoughts on this surprising new direction?

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#2 Maroxad
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The indie devs will make us a much better syndicate successor anyway. Just watch, someone out there is probably planning on making one right now as a responce to this game as we speak.

But if I am wrong. I will be really, really sad.

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#3 -wildflower-
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I really can't wait for the "visceral" Alpha Centauri FPS. C'mon EA you know you want it!

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#4 ShimmerMan
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Action alliteration of Syndicate? sounds dull.

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#5 kris9031998
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First X com...now this. *sigh*
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#6 RobertBowen
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I'm still waiting for a Baldur's Gate TPS with a cover system. And where's my Battlefield puzzle game? /sarcasm

Honestly, all this genre shifting is getting a bit ridiculous now, eh devs? I mean, there are some games that could be remade quite well as a First Person experience, like the Blade Runner game (first person 'adventure' games are possible), but shoe-horning a strategy title into the FPS hole - well, you just know it isn't going to fit right, like a square peg in a round hole.

The Command & Conquer: Renegade spin-off only just managed it, but even then it was somewhat lacking, and I seem to recall they ditched a second outing.

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#7 Miroku32
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Another shooter, no interest in it. Hopefully an indie developer make a game that plays like the old Syndicate.
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#8 Johnny_Rock
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I really can't wait for the "visceral" Alpha Centauri FPS. C'mon EA you know you want it!

-wildflower-

I want that elusive Zork FPS!

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#9 skrat_01
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While Syndicate was an action game, it's a massive shame to see it be pulled into FPS territory with every other damn game. Lets just hop it keeps the open ended violent gameplay, and customisation and squad control, then another rigid linear shooter. Also Paradox, how about that spiritual successor to Syndicate?
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#10 Makari
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We've collectively been pretty sure Starbreeze was making this for the last year - given that it's Starbreeze, I'm not really sure what else to expect than a FPS. :( That said, it could still be good, since it's Starbreeze and Riddick was awesome.
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#11 skrat_01
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We've collectively been pretty sure Starbreeze was making this for the last year - given that it's Starbreeze, I'm not really sure what else to expect than a FPS. :( That said, it could still be good, since it's Starbreeze and Riddick was awesome.Makari
Alas Starbreeze has been picked to pieces since The Darkness.
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#12 pelvist
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Im not happy about it at all, I was really hoping for a proper sequel when I heard it was being made, not a FPS using the Syndicate name in order to try and sell it.

The game might end up being really good, but for now I have absolutely no interest in it.

Whats next then? Cannon Fodder FPS with 4 player coop?. Tetris FPS where you throw bricks at people?

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#13 James00715
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This game is missing the spirit of the game if it doesn't have any strategy aspects. I'm okay with them using the Syndicate universe/lore, but it would be nice to have a true sequel in the series.

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#14 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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The syndicate games are some of my favorite games of all time... The rumors have been flying around for a long time, that this would happen. But when it was confirmed, and saw the halfarsed backstory bit, It felt as if my heart stopped for a moment. Seriously, is there any genres left that devs can mess up? If there are, you cn count on them finding it.

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#15 Makari
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[QUOTE="Makari"]We've collectively been pretty sure Starbreeze was making this for the last year - given that it's Starbreeze, I'm not really sure what else to expect than a FPS. :( That said, it could still be good, since it's Starbreeze and Riddick was awesome.skrat_01
Alas Starbreeze has been picked to pieces since The Darkness.

If so, that's terrible news and I'm pretty much giving up on the game right now. :D Did a bunch of devs scatter to other studios, or worse?
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#16 gamer620
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The indie devs will make us a much better syndicate successor anyway. Just watch, someone out there is probably planning on making one right now as a responce to this game as we speak.

But if I am wrong. I will be really, really sad.

Maroxad
Hope you enjoy never getting to play that game because it will never see the light of day unless EA wants it to.
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#17 rlc-madcat
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Im not happy about it at all, I was really hoping for a proper sequel when I heard it was being made, not a FPS using the Syndicate name in order to try and sell it.

The game might end up being really good, but for now I have absolutely no interest in it.

Whats next then? Cannon Fodder FPS with 4 player coop?. Tetris FPS where you throw bricks at people?

pelvist
Yeah.. what he said..
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#18 rlc-madcat
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I loved Syndicate, especially the original one. I remeber spending hour upon hours just playing that game, sleeping past 3AM (cause I had classes the next day). Really cool game.. but now an FPS?!?! WTH?? Bring backPeter Molyneux!

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#19 _Doomsayer_
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Starbreeze behind it means that it's a day one buy for me.
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#20 Evz0rz
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If it was just your typical FPS I would be disappointed, but with Starbreeze behind it I am 100% interested

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#21 KillerJuan77
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It's made by Starbreeze, even their worse games are kind of awesome. I can't wait.

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#22 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

The indie devs will make us a much better syndicate successor anyway. Just watch, someone out there is probably planning on making one right now as a responce to this game as we speak.

But if I am wrong. I will be really, really sad.

gamer620

Hope you enjoy never getting to play that game because it will never see the light of day unless EA wants it to.

I dont see why they cant release it.

2K havent done anything about Xenonauts, despite its massive similarities to X-Com: Ufo Defense. It wont share the same name or universe, but it will have very similar gameplay to the original and possibly expand upon some ideas, and that is perfectly acceptable to make.

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#23 Legolas_Katarn
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Fallout, X-Com, and now this how many great strategy series do they have left to screw up. Maybe we will get lucky and for this one they will at least pay attention to the story, world, and details unlike the new X-Com and Fallout 3. Probably not though.
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#24 Elann2008
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We've collectively been pretty sure Starbreeze was making this for the last year - given that it's Starbreeze, I'm not really sure what else to expect than a FPS. :( That said, it could still be good, since it's Starbreeze and Riddick was awesome.Makari
Also The Darkness, but that wasn't much of an FPS. I mean, the gunplay was terrible although the rest of the game was brilliant. Hmm.. only time can tell.
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#25 Makari
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[QUOTE="Makari"]We've collectively been pretty sure Starbreeze was making this for the last year - given that it's Starbreeze, I'm not really sure what else to expect than a FPS. :( That said, it could still be good, since it's Starbreeze and Riddick was awesome.Elann2008
Also The Darkness, but that wasn't much of an FPS. I mean, the gunplay was terrible although the rest of the game was brilliant. Hmm.. only time can tell.

Yeah, I loved Darkness and the first Riddick (never played Athena, oddly). They certainly can pull off the *mood* of Syndicate. Curious how the rest will go.
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#26 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Makari"]We've collectively been pretty sure Starbreeze was making this for the last year - given that it's Starbreeze, I'm not really sure what else to expect than a FPS. :( That said, it could still be good, since it's Starbreeze and Riddick was awesome.Makari

Alas Starbreeze has been picked to pieces since The Darkness.

If so, that's terrible news and I'm pretty much giving up on the game right now. :D

Did a bunch of devs scatter to other studios, or worse?

here's the link http://www.1up.com/features/starbreeze-secret-history Turmoil after turmoil, the founder leaving, game cancellations, the staff leaving and so on. Sigh, a real mess.

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#27 mirgamer
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Starbreeze behind it means that it's a day one buy for me._Doomsayer_
The starbreeze you know is gone, they are essentially a new studio by new people. Most of the old core Starbreeze formed MachineGames.
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[QUOTE="_Doomsayer_"]Starbreeze behind it means that it's a day one buy for me.mirgamer
The starbreeze you know is gone, they are essentially a new studio by new people. Most of the old core Starbreeze formed MachineGames.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and look forward to MachineGames first project.

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#29 rmfd341
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I'm curious about it, never played the first one.
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#30 nutcrackr
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never played originals so it doesn't effect me. I expect more and more fps games will come from non-fps franchises. xcom is another. more mass market.
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I so HATE FPS.

Another great franchise ruined by EA.

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#32 naval
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The reason is that apparently 'time has move on' (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112963-Starbreeze-Explains-Shootery-Syndicate)

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#33 solartiger
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www.gamespot.com/news/6333763/syndicate-revamp-coming-in-early-2012?tag=updates%3Beditor%3Ball%3Btitle%3B2

I bet some fans of the original games aren't very happy about this, while I don't really mind the change (never played Syndicate and Syndicate Wars) I'm still a tad disappointed that it won't be the same strategy game it was, there's more than enough shooters in the market and I'm not too keen on another one.

So, what are your thoughts on this surprising new direction?

koospetoors
People were really bummed when they found out the new Fallout would be first person...Who knows if this will work w/ the "new" Syndicate...
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#34 VeryBumpy
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So this game is out in 4 days and no one cares? Not even the console people are talking about this one much.

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#35 Miroku32
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So this game is out in 4 days and no one cares? Not even the console people are talking about this one much.

VeryBumpy
I guess people are still annoyed because Syndicate turned into a FPS.
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#36 Goyoshi12
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Don't care, looks pretty good, can't wait to see how it does.

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#37 THA-TODD-BEAST
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[QUOTE="VeryBumpy"]

So this game is out in 4 days and no one cares? Not even the console people are talking about this one much.

Miroku32

I guess people are still annoyed because Syndicate turned into a FPS.

That's certainly the reason I'm not picking it up. I have zero interest in this game.

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#38 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="VeryBumpy"]

So this game is out in 4 days and no one cares? Not even the console people are talking about this one much.

Miroku32

I guess people are still annoyed because Syndicate turned into a FPS.

Ya think?

I've seen decent hype though, but I think games like Twisted Metal and Mass Effect 3 have sucked most of the hype from gamers.

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#39 tjricardo089
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Wasn't Syndicate going to be a shooter in the first place? Don't worry, it will be a very different shooter from what we have in the market.

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#40 LordRork
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A Syndicate revamp that looked and felt a bit like DoWII would have been a worthy sequel, but I'm interested to see how the FPS pans out.