So what is the general consensus of the PC gaming community on BF:BC2?

Will it have a strong community or not? I am planning on buying this game, but I don't know whether I should buy it on PC or Xbox 360. As far as graphics goes, I'm guessing my PC can probably run it on medium, so I won't get that advantage. I'm comfortable with both M/KB and controller, so either way, I don't have a problem. I intend to get the version which will have more players/a stronger community. I already know the game has a strong following with the Xbox crowd, but how do PC gamers find it? Do you think it will be popular? Would you rather wait up for BF3, stick to BF2/2142/Heroes, or continue avoiding Battlefield games altogether?

What do you mean continue avoiding battlefield games altogether ? I still play BF2 all the time. :P I think that BFBC 2 will have a solid community on the PC where it belongs and where its true Home is. (dedicated servers, modifications, "cough cough" ) Ive already pre ordered this and depending on how many maps there are I will probably be spending a hell of lot of time playing it. It will definatley tide me over till BF3.RedDanDoc

I'm in the same boat you are.. I found the PC version to be a little disappointing. Yeah it's a beta, but the game comes out in a month.. how much is really going to change? My PC has a LOT better hardware than a 360, yet only runs the game marginally better.. I found the controls to be more fluid on the 360, and overall the game seems to be less laggy. I dunno.

DICE kept talking about dedicated servers to draw the PC crowd, but still the game feels very much like a console game. Not necessarily a bad thing, but.. I'm probably going to cancel my Steam preorder and get it for 360.

It's not a bad game by any means, I just think a lot of PC gamers will probably be disappointed with this, since we're all waiting for BF3.

I'm in the same boat you are.. I found the PC version to be a little disappointing. Yeah it's a beta, but the game comes out in a month.. how much is really going to change? My PC has a LOT better hardware than a 360, yet only runs the game marginally better.. I found the controls to be more fluid on the 360, and overall the game seems to be less laggy. I dunno.

DICE kept talking about dedicated servers to draw the PC crowd, but still the game feels very much like a console game. Not necessarily a bad thing, but.. I'm probably going to cancel my Steam preorder and get it for 360.

It's not a bad game by any means, I just think a lot of PC gamers will probably be disappointed with this, since we're all waiting for BF3.

MyopicCanadian

the game could be fun, but it seems like people never want to work together or they just dont know that they have to be assaulting and just sit back and snipe. it seems fun though and if they fixed some kinks with the servers (i still lag for some reason) it could be good, but i really dont know. also dx10 mode runs like ass while dx9 runs very well and looks pretty similar. only difference is the lighting i think

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I'm in the same boat you are.. I found the PC version to be a little disappointing. Yeah it's a beta, but the game comes out in a month.. how much is really going to change? My PC has a LOT better hardware than a 360, yet only runs the game marginally better.. I found the controls to be more fluid on the 360, and overall the game seems to be less laggy. I dunno.

DICE kept talking about dedicated servers to draw the PC crowd, but still the game feels very much like a console game. Not necessarily a bad thing, but.. I'm probably going to cancel my Steam preorder and get it for 360.

It's not a bad game by any means, I just think a lot of PC gamers will probably be disappointed with this, since we're all waiting for BF3.

Daytona_178

I'm in the same boat you are.. I found the PC version to be a little disappointing. Yeah it's a beta, but the game comes out in a month.. how much is really going to change? My PC has a LOT better hardware than a 360, yet only runs the game marginally better.. I found the controls to be more fluid on the 360, and overall the game seems to be less laggy. I dunno.

DICE kept talking about dedicated servers to draw the PC crowd, but still the game feels very much like a console game. Not necessarily a bad thing, but.. I'm probably going to cancel my Steam preorder and get it for 360.

It's not a bad game by any means, I just think a lot of PC gamers will probably be disappointed with this, since we're all waiting for BF3.

MyopicCanadian

Still playing FH2 and PR and waiting for a proper sequel. I will not waste my money on their console line.

Still playing FH2 and PR and waiting for a proper sequel. I will not waste my money on their console line.

Brendissimo35

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Still playing FH2 and PR and waiting for a proper sequel. I will not waste my money on their console line.

Shatilov

Still playing FH2 and PR and waiting for a proper sequel. I will not waste my money on their console line.

Brendissimo35

a lot of the people who are disappointed expected it to be the successor to BF2, which it isn't. I love the game because i KNEW it wasn't going to be BF3, but instead a solid spin off with destructible environments and a actual singleplayer campaign.

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Still playing FH2 and PR and waiting for a proper sequel. I will not waste my money on their console line.

musclesforcier

smaller maps, less players, less mod friendly, less standard pc features, less vehicles, less weapons, and lower graphics quality than would be possible on the pc. Yes it matters.

And Here are the websites of the two greatest BF2 mods out there:

Forgotten Hope 2

Project Reality

a lot of the people who are disappointed expected it to be the successor to BF2, which it isn't. I love the game because i KNEW it wasn't going to be BF3, but instead a solid spin off with destructible environments and a actual singleplayer campaign.

Pdiddy105

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Still playing FH2 and PR and waiting for a proper sequel. I will not waste my money on their console line.

Brendissimo35

smaller maps, less players, less mod friendly, less standard pc features, less vehicles, less weapons, and lower graphics quality than would be possible on the pc. Yes it matters.

And Here are the websites of the two greatest BF2 mods out there:

Forgotten Hope 2

Project Reality

Ignoring a fun game because it has a FEW console features is illogical and elitist.

I could easily argue that the smaller maps are because of the frostbite engine and that smaller maps and fewer players go hand in hand. There's more weapons in BF:BC2, so I don't know what you're smoking there. The graphics are FAR better than BF2 and have been improved for PC, so that's a non-issue. There was less vehicles in BF2 than in BF1942, but I don't see hordes of people complaining. Besides, BC2 and BF2 have the same number of vehicle types (excluding jets). PC also gets dedicated servers and 8 more players to round off to 32, which was probably the average number of players for a BF2 game anyways. That's what I liked for my karkand games. 32 players on a 16player map. A lot of infantry in a smaller area.

I'm going back to BF2 (plus PR) and will wait for BF3. This is a console game through and through, its just not as good as BF2 or other popular multiplayer games like TF2. You would think a game that came out 5 years later would be a step forward, not backward.

Get it for PC unless u have more friends playing it on 360.

The pc version runs better, has better graphics, better controls and dedicated servers.

The beta is amazing. So much fun. The map really shanges the way you play as it gets destroyed. I run it on medium with AA off and vsync off. The game on medium looks better than the 360 and PS3 versions.

This is the first FPS I have ever played on my 360 over the PC.... I know it's still a 'beta' but I keep getting connected to servers in places like Texas when I live in Australia.

This is the first FPS I have ever played on my 360 over the PC.... I know it's still a 'beta' but I keep getting connected to servers in places like Texas when I live in Australia.

the_mitch28

It seemed to run really laggy for me. I would've thought my Quad with 4870x2 would be more powerful than a Xbox 360, might be wrong though. After all, Lucasarts said that time that Force Unleashed requires $4000 PC, maybe that's the case with this game too.
Or after my bit of sarcasm above, they will have better optimisation on release or major speed fixes on patches. I just can't believe how bad DX10 mode is, and now there's DX11. Think I'll pass on that thanks.

Will it have a strong community or not? I am planning on buying this game, but I don't know whether I should buy it on PC or Xbox 360. As far as graphics goes, I'm guessing my PC can probably run it on medium, so I won't get that advantage. I'm comfortable with both M/KB and controller, so either way, I don't have a problem. I intend to get the version which will have more players/a stronger community. I already know the game has a strong following with the Xbox crowd, but how do PC gamers find it? Do you think it will be popular? Would you rather wait up for BF3, stick to BF2/2142/Heroes, or continue avoiding Battlefield games altogether?

Xeros606

I think that Bad Company 2 in PC will replace BF 272142, and as far I can say the game -even with some nerfed mechanics, like the lack of single shot fire mode or prone position- is WAY deeper than BF 2: the mew squad mode allows you to respawn in ANY of the other 3 members and look and choice the class that fits better in the situation and the location in which your help is more needed. Also, since the squad system is so easy and intuitive the rookies learn much more faster the core mechanics of the game.

At the beginning -barely a week ago- you could see a lot of people camping with recons in the top of the hills while their team lost the game; now is much more evident that the attackers need to pressure the M-COM stations and most of people try to break through the defenses instead of camping to raise their k/d ratios. The game rocks, is much better than I was expecting, will fill the hole nicely until BF 3, and PC version in my rig utterly destroys the PS3 version in terms of resolution, framerrate, filters, fx and post process.

smaller maps, less players, less mod friendly, less standard pc features, less vehicles, less weapons, and lower graphics quality than would be possible on the pc. Yes it matters.

Brendissimo35

The maps are smaller but much more complex, since in the older games the only way to enter in a room was the door, so put some campers, some calymores guarding the door and was over. Try now to guard a M-Com Station when anyone can open a "door" in any wall of the room... The gameplay is much deeper. You now have MORE weapons and customizations per class than before, and the graphics and performance is good enough. And seems that will have 16 maps, more than BF2/2142 at release dates.

I'm going back to BF2 (plus PR) and will wait for BF3. This is a console game through and through, its just not as good as BF2 or other popular multiplayer games like TF2. You would think a game that came out 5 years later would be a step forward, not backward.

Rob_101

I already explained the reasons because I think that BC 2 makes BF 2 to look like a relic. The game has better squad system, more dynamic environments, more options and weapons to customize your class and the learning curve will raise the skill of the players way faster, since almost everyone plays now in squads. I'll not be surprised if the game surpasses BF2 in popularity in the Xfire and Gametracker stats.

1-Visually the game in PC has better resolution, framerrate and inproved quality as the game supports up to X16 anisotropic filtering, ambient occlusion shadowing and enhanced particles fx and postprocess, but the final realease will be even better because it will support another extra level of quality in textures.

2-The feeling of the weapons is that they're very innacurate and had big recoil in full automatic fire and while moving but really accurate in short burst (2-4 bullets) at iron sights while keep you quiet. Some of the weapons are insta-kill. Some people are ranting about being hard to kill people in the game, but I find not problem to enter in 4 enemies killing spree with assault rifles and shotguns in almost any match.

How is the look an feel of the weapons? I remember BF:BC the feeling was like a floaty feeling. Something was not right. I hope they fixed that.Hitman-B1-

I have to say i'm enjoying the PC beta so far, the game mechanics take a bit to get used to, but its far more frantic and fast paced than any other battlefield game i have played - although its still not as insane as the Call of Duty games (thank god). It seems to run pretty well in DX9 on my aging rig, and the destructible environments great.

I have also heard that the controls for the 360 version are really bad, but that may just be one persons opinion. I'm guessing the game will have a strong multiplayer community on the PC.

[QUOTE="Hitman-B1-"]How is the look an feel of the weapons? I remember BF:BC the feeling was like a floaty feeling. Something was not right. I hope they fixed that.MyopicCanadian

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I'm going back to BF2 (plus PR) and will wait for BF3. This is a console game through and through, its just not as good as BF2 or other popular multiplayer games like TF2. You would think a game that came out 5 years later would be a step forward, not backward.

Ondoval

I already explained the reasons because I think that BC 2 makes BF 2 to look like a relic. The game has better squad system, more dynamic environments, more options and weapons to customize your class and the learning curve will raise the skill of the players way faster, since almost everyone plays now in squads. I'll not be surprised if the game surpasses BF2 in popularity in the Xfire and Gametracker stats.

BC2 just feel so downgraded compared to BF2 tho. BF2 has bigger maps, more players, jets, a commander system, zip lines and rappel ropes, and overall I just feel its more "fun" to play. I don't like the way BC2 controls/handles/feels.

The squad system isn't really better, you can spawn on any squad member now which defeats the purpose of a squad leader and eliminates that tactical aspect of the game. Also the graphics are better in BC2, but not for someone like me who has to play it on low which makes it look like a crappy low-res mess that still has terrible performance. In comparison I can play BF2 fully maxed out with great performance and it looks much better.

In Battlefield 2 you really feel like your on a massive chaotic battlefield. I'm not saying BC2 is a bad game, it can actually be pretty fun. But compared to BF2 I just don't like it as much.

You can cancel steam pre-orders?Daytona_178

Yes, I already canceled my steam pre-order of this game.

The game wasn't what I expected.

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[QUOTE="Rob_101"]

I'm going back to BF2 (plus PR) and will wait for BF3. This is a console game through and through, its just not as good as BF2 or other popular multiplayer games like TF2. You would think a game that came out 5 years later would be a step forward, not backward.

Rob_101

I already explained the reasons because I think that BC 2 makes BF 2 to look like a relic. The game has better squad system, more dynamic environments, more options and weapons to customize your class and the learning curve will raise the skill of the players way faster, since almost everyone plays now in squads. I'll not be surprised if the game surpasses BF2 in popularity in the Xfire and Gametracker stats.

BC2 just feel so downgraded compared to BF2 tho. BF2 has bigger maps, more players, jets, a commander system, zip lines and rappel ropes, and overall I just feel its more "fun" to play. I don't like the way BC2 controls/handles/feels.

The squad system isn't really better, you can spawn on any squad member now which defeats the purpose of a squad leader and eliminates that tactical aspect of the game. Also the graphics are better in BC2, but not for someone like me who has to play it on low which makes it look like a crappy low-res mess that still has terrible performance. In comparison I can play BF2 fully maxed out with great performance and it looks much better.

In Battlefield 2 you really feel like your on a massive chaotic battlefield. I'm not saying BC2 is a bad game, it can actually be pretty fun. But compared to BF2 I just don't like it as much.

BC2 just feel so downgraded compared to BF2 tho. BF2 has bigger maps, more players, jets, a commander system, zip lines and rappel ropes, and overall I just feel its more "fun" to play. I don't like the way BC2 controls/handles/feels.

The squad system isn't really better, you can spawn on any squad member now which defeats the purpose of a squad leader and eliminates that tactical aspect of the game. Also the graphics are better in BC2, but not for someone like me who has to play it on low which makes it look like a crappy low-res mess that still has terrible performance. In comparison I can play BF2 fully maxed out with great performance and it looks much better.

In Battlefield 2 you really feel like your on a massive chaotic battlefield. I'm not saying BC2 is a bad game, it can actually be pretty fun. But compared to BF2 I just don't like it as much.

Rob_101

-Jets would not be able to turn in the sky with the BC 2 maps, and I think that with one overpowered vehicle (chopters) is more than enough -I will not miss them-.

-BF 2 had bigger maps but less maps, and the maps had always the same bottlenecks which usually ended with the classical claymores and campers, whereas in BC 2 if you suspect that the main entrance is heaviy defended then you just open a new hole in the wall/roof/whatever to get your target. BF 2 is unable to offer this kind of plasticity: you must to adapt to the limitations of the unamovable environment, which means that a single Stop signal can instantly freeze the 62 tm charge of a M1 at 45 mph.

-The commander was for airstrikes and supplies, but you can still call airstrikes with mortars and in matter of supplies the 4 classes are enought to provide mutual support.

-I must agree with you with the zip lines and ropes (that were added in a expansion) but on the other hand you have here a ton more options to customize your character in BC 2, and as I said destructibility adds more tactical chances and enhances the tactical gameplay; the main role of the squad leader in BF2 was to avoid the direct fire to keep himself alive: nothings prevents you for being equaly evasive, but if you chose to avoid the battles probably your team mates will use another partners as respawn points to be more useful to protect or attack the targets.

I liked BF 2 a lot, but was never fan of chopters in unstoppable killing sprees over armless infantry, so I was playing mainly Infantry Only servers, and to my tastes BC 2 with their smaller scale but way wider options in urban warfare thanx to the interactive environment fits much better what I can expect from a new BF game. And visuals is a plus for me, since maxed the game runs smoothly at average 48 fps in my rig even with all the things blowing away.

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BC2 just feel so downgraded compared to BF2 tho. BF2 has bigger maps, more players, jets, a commander system, zip lines and rappel ropes, and overall I just feel its more "fun" to play. I don't like the way BC2 controls/handles/feels.

The squad system isn't really better, you can spawn on any squad member now which defeats the purpose of a squad leader and eliminates that tactical aspect of the game. Also the graphics are better in BC2, but not for someone like me who has to play it on low which makes it look like a crappy low-res mess that still has terrible performance. In comparison I can play BF2 fully maxed out with great performance and it looks much better.

In Battlefield 2 you really feel like your on a massive chaotic battlefield. I'm not saying BC2 is a bad game, it can actually be pretty fun. But compared to BF2 I just don't like it as much.

Ondoval

-Jets would not be able to turn in the sky with the BC 2 maps, and I think that with one overpowered vehicle (chopters) is more than enough -I will not miss them-.

-BF 2 had bigger maps but less maps, and the maps had always the same bottlenecks which usually ended with the classical claymores and campers, whereas in BC 2 if you suspect that the main entrance is heaviy defended then you just open a new hole in the wall/roof/whatever to get your target. BF 2 is unable to offer this kind of plasticity: you must to adapt to the limitations of the unamovable environment, which means that a single Stop signal can instantly freeze the 62 tm charge of a M1 at 45 mph.

-The commander was for airstrikes and supplies, but you can still call airstrikes with mortars and in matter of supplies the 4 classes are enought to provide mutual support.

-I must agree with you with the zip lines and ropes (that were added in a expansion) but on the other hand you have here a ton more options to customize your character in BC 2, and as I said destructibility adds more tactical chances and enhances the tactical gameplay; the main role of the squad leader in BF2 was to avoid the direct fire to keep himself alive: nothings prevents you for being equaly evasive, but if you chose to avoid the battles probably your team mates will use another partners as respawn points to be more useful to protect or attack the targets.

I liked BF 2 a lot, but was never fan of chopters in unstoppable killing sprees over armless infantry, so I was playing mainly Infantry Only servers, and to my tastes BC 2 with their smaller scale but way wider options in urban warfare thanx to the interactive environment fits much better what I can expect from a new BF game. And visuals is a plus for me, since maxed the game runs smoothly at average 48 fps in my rig even with all the things blowing away.

You don't need to try and convince me or defend BC2 when people say something negative people say about. I don't find BC2 as good as BF2. I'll wait for a true sequel, one that actually improves and adds features instead of removing them.

The OP asked what the the general consensus is of the PC gaming community on BF:BC2. I gave my opinion and you gave yours, their different, lets just leave it at that.

the FOV sucks, so im not buying it. i havent really had a chance to play it because i cant stand running around feeling like im looking through binocularsCrucifier