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#1 ATLReppa770
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I'm looking for software that'll allow me to overclock my 8800GTS for maybe 10-20FPS difference or is that asking for too much? Mainly, in Lost Planet and Halo 2.

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#2 thesimpsons2
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RivaTuner is amazing for overclocking. You can also set Fan profiles so when your GPU is heating up becuase your playing a game the fan will go too 100% automatically.
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#3 BounceDK
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Use atitool to test your oc first - What it does is stress your gpu to the max and scan for any artifacts while monitoring the temperature on the card. It's great to see just how much you can oc your card without damaging it. After you're done you can use rivatuner as suggested already.
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#4 ATLReppa770
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Alright, thanks, both of you. I'm scanning for artifacts now w/ ATi Tool and so far, no errors for 2 minutes, how long will this scan go on for?
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Alright, thanks, both of you. I'm scanning for artifacts now w/ ATi Tool and so far, no errors for 2 minutes, how long will this scan go on for?ATLReppa770

It's not timed. You stop it when you're confident that your card's stable at a given speed. I ran the scan for an hour when I was finding out if my final speed was stable or not. Of course, I was going to flash my card's BIOS with that new final speed, so I hadto be extra sure that it was stable.

Two minutes is nothing.

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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"]Alright, thanks, both of you. I'm scanning for artifacts now w/ ATi Tool and so far, no errors for 2 minutes, how long will this scan go on for?My_name_a_Borat

It's not timed. You stop it when you're confident that your card's stable at a given speed. I ran the scan for an hour when I was finding out if my final speed was stable or not. Of course, I was going to flash my card's BIOS with that new final speed, so I hadto be extra sure that it was stable.

Two minutes is nothing.

yea if you going to flash your cards bios i suggest running it for quite a while because you dont want to be stuck with an unstable card because you couldn't wait an hour or so. oh and i suggest rivertuner for overclocking.
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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"]Alright, thanks, both of you. I'm scanning for artifacts now w/ ATi Tool and so far, no errors for 2 minutes, how long will this scan go on for?My_name_a_Borat

It's not timed. You stop it when you're confident that your card's stable at a given speed. I ran the scan for an hour when I was finding out if my final speed was stable or not. Of course, I was going to flash my card's BIOS with that new final speed, so I hadto be extra sure that it was stable.

Two minutes is nothing.

Say if I decide to overclock it to the most stable speed, how much of a frame increase would I be seeing in games such as Halo 2; Lost Planet [DX9]; Test Drive: Unlimited?

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no1 can tell, depends on the rest of your specs, if the video card is bottlenecking, u'll notice 10-15 frames, if the cpu is bottlenecking, u'll notice like 1-8.
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and it depends on what your "most stable speed" actually is. some cards overclock better than others. even two identical cards from the same manufacturer can have a notable difference in overclocking.
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Well, I forgot to tell you guys I'm using Vista Ultimate 64-Bit and when using ATi Tool I get an error that the Kernel Mode Driver does not seem to be running. A device driver is required for communication w/ your video hardware. So, I'm not able to do anything except scan for artifacts. Can you guys help please?

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Well, I forgot to tell you guys I'm using Vista Ultimate 64-Bit and when using ATi Tool I get an error that the Kernel Mode Driver does not seem to be running. A device driver is required for communication w/ your video hardware. So, I'm not able to do anything except scan for artifacts. Can you guys help please?

ATLReppa770

Yeah, Vista's just not compatible with ATITool. I'm not sure if Rivatuner works under Vista or not.

See, what I did was install an old 10 gig hard drive in my computer, put XP on it, then run ATITool. Once I found my maximum stable clocks, I flashed the BIOS, took the old hard drive out, and had my permanently overclocked video card running Vista.

If Riva Tuner doesn't work under Vista, yet you're hell-bent on overclocking the video card, I'd just do it the "BIOS flash way."

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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"]

Well, I forgot to tell you guys I'm using Vista Ultimate 64-Bit and when using ATi Tool I get an error that the Kernel Mode Driver does not seem to be running. A device driver is required for communication w/ your video hardware. So, I'm not able to do anything except scan for artifacts. Can you guys help please?

My_name_a_Borat

Yeah, Vista's just not compatible with ATITool. I'm not sure if Rivatuner works under Vista or not.

See, what I did was install an old 10 gig hard drive in my computer, put XP on it, then run ATITool. Once I found my maximum stable clocks, I flashed the BIOS, took the old hard drive out, and had my permanently overclocked video card running Vista.

If Riva Tuner doesn't work under Vista, yet you're hell-bent on overclocking the video card, I'd just do it the "BIOS flash way."

And what's the BIOS flash way?

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[QUOTE="My_name_a_Borat"][QUOTE="ATLReppa770"]

Well, I forgot to tell you guys I'm using Vista Ultimate 64-Bit and when using ATi Tool I get an error that the Kernel Mode Driver does not seem to be running. A device driver is required for communication w/ your video hardware. So, I'm not able to do anything except scan for artifacts. Can you guys help please?

ATLReppa770

Yeah, Vista's just not compatible with ATITool. I'm not sure if Rivatuner works under Vista or not.

See, what I did was install an old 10 gig hard drive in my computer, put XP on it, then run ATITool. Once I found my maximum stable clocks, I flashed the BIOS, took the old hard drive out, and had my permanently overclocked video card running Vista.

If Riva Tuner doesn't work under Vista, yet you're hell-bent on overclocking the video card, I'd just do it the "BIOS flash way."

And what's the BIOS flash way?

Here's my 10 step recipe:

1. Get an old hard drive and install it in your computer. Install Windows XP, ATITool, NiBiTor, and 3DMark06.

2. Run ATITool. Increase the CORE clock speed 25MHz at a time for the first 75MHz (assuming that you're starting off at the default 500MHz of the GTS). Then, if you're still stable, continue bumping up 10MHz at a time, then 5MHz at a time. After each bump in speed, run the artifact scanner. Once you've found the maximum stable core speed, do the same thing for your MEMORY clock speed. I managed to get 630MHz on the core and 1.95GHz on the memory for my 640M GTS,

3. One you're sure you've found the maximum speed, let the artifact scanner run for an hour, then loop 3DMark06 three or four times.

4. Using NiBiTor, which is an nVidia video BIOS editor, save a backup file of your original BIOS. I don't have the program running in front of me right now, but I think to do this, you select "Read BIOS into file..." which saves your original BIOS into a specific location. A floppy disk is a good place for it. Name the original BIOS "BACKUP.ROM" or something like that.

Now, set your new clock speeds. You'll also see a "Shader Clock" or "Stream Processor Clock" header in NiBiTor, which is something you could not adjust in ATITool. Usually, 1.4GHz is pretty safe. I got mine at 1.46GHz. After you've set these values, save it as a ROM file. Call it something like BADASS.ROM or something silly like that. Remember, it has to be 8 characters or less, since you'll be flashing the BIOS in DOS mode, and DOS has that dreaded old 8.3 character limit. I first named mine a ten character file, and had one hell of a time trying to find out why the hell I kept getting an error message while trying to flash.

5. Now, create a bootable MS-DOS startup disk. This can be done right in XP. Save your new ROM file on the same DOS startup disk.

6. Download the latest version of NVFLASH. This is the DOS program you'll be using to flash your video BIOS. It's VERY important to make sure that your computer is NOT overclocked while flashing the video BIOS. Stability is crucial; if your system hangs during the flashing process, your video card may never see the light of day again. :cry: Save NVFLASH.EXE to the same MS-DOS startup disk.

7. Now, restart your PC with the DOS disk in the drive. At the DOS prompt, type NVFLASH BADASS.ROM. Of course, replace BADASS with whatever you named your overclocked BIOS file.

8. If it asks you for confirmation, sweetly tell it that you think you're far enough in the relationship you and yourPC have that you can trust it with flashing your GPU's BIOS.

9. Once done, remove the floppy, push alt+ctrl+del to reboot the PC. In XP, run your stability tester and 3DMark once again.

10. Once you're happy with the stability and (hopefully) higher 3DMark score, remove the old hard drive. You now have an overclocked video card under Vista! w00t!

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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"][QUOTE="My_name_a_Borat"][QUOTE="ATLReppa770"]

Well, I forgot to tell you guys I'm using Vista Ultimate 64-Bit and when using ATi Tool I get an error that the Kernel Mode Driver does not seem to be running. A device driver is required for communication w/ your video hardware. So, I'm not able to do anything except scan for artifacts. Can you guys help please?

My_name_a_Borat

Yeah, Vista's just not compatible with ATITool. I'm not sure if Rivatuner works under Vista or not.

See, what I did was install an old 10 gig hard drive in my computer, put XP on it, then run ATITool. Once I found my maximum stable clocks, I flashed the BIOS, took the old hard drive out, and had my permanently overclocked video card running Vista.

If Riva Tuner doesn't work under Vista, yet you're hell-bent on overclocking the video card, I'd just do it the "BIOS flash way."

And what's the BIOS flash way?

Here's my 10 step recipe:

1. Get an old hard drive and install it in your computer. Install Windows XP, ATITool, NiBiTor, and 3DMark06.

2. Run ATITool. Increase the CORE clock speed 25MHz at a time for the first 75MHz (assuming that you're starting off at the default 500MHz of the GTS). Then, if you're still stable, continue bumping up 10MHz at a time, then 5MHz at a time. After each bump in speed, run the artifact scanner. Once you've found the maximum stable core speed, do the same thing for your MEMORY clock speed. I managed to get 630MHz on the core and 1.95GHz on the memory for my 640M GTS,

3. One you're sure you've found the maximum speed, let the artifact scanner run for an hour, then loop 3DMark06 three or four times.

4. Using NiBiTor, which is an nVidia video BIOS editor, save a backup file of your original BIOS. I don't have the program running in front of me right now, but I think to do this, you select "Read BIOS into file..." which saves your original BIOS into a specific location. A floppy disk is a good place for it. Name the original BIOS "BACKUP.ROM" or something like that.

Now, set your new clock speeds. You'll also see a "Shader Clock" or "Stream Processor Clock" header in NiBiTor, which is something you could not adjust in ATITool. Usually, 1.4GHz is pretty safe. I got mine at 1.46GHz. After you've set these values, save it as a ROM file. Call it something like BADASS.ROM or something silly like that. Remember, it has to be 8 characters or less, since you'll be flashing the BIOS in DOS mode, and DOS has that dreaded old 8.3 character limit. I first named mine a ten character file, and had one hell of a time trying to find out why the hell I kept getting an error message while trying to flash.

5. Now, create a bootable MS-DOS startup disk. This can be done right in XP. Save your new ROM file on the same DOS startup disk.

6. Download the latest version of NVFLASH. This is the DOS program you'll be using to flash your video BIOS. It's VERY important to make sure that your computer is NOT overclocked while flashing the video BIOS. Stability is crucial; if your system hangs during the flashing process, your video card may never see the light of day again. :cry: Save NVFLASH.EXE to the same MS-DOS startup disk.

7. Now, restart your PC with the DOS disk in the drive. At the DOS prompt, type NVFLASH BADASS.ROM. Of course, replace BADASS with whatever you named your overclocked BIOS file.

8. If it asks you for confirmation, sweetly tell it that you think you're far enough in the relationship you and yourPC have that you can trust it with flashing your GPU's BIOS.

9. Once done, remove the floppy, push alt+ctrl+del to reboot the PC. In XP, run your stability tester and 3DMark once again.

10. Once you're happy with the stability and (hopefully) higher 3DMark score, remove the old hard drive. You now have an overclocked video card under Vista! w00t!

...Someone please tell me there's an easier way.
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Well, I was dual-booting for a while, with Windows XP and Vista 64-bit. So, I finally decided to log onto Windows XP and install ATi Tool, I then clicked Find MAX core and the other one, it came out to 635.1/1065.0. I then scanned for artifacts for about 50-60 minutes and then since everything was O.K. and no errors were found, I clicked Set Clock. And then saved the profile and went back to Vista, how come my memory is still the same when I check on "dxdiag"? Also, did that over-clock my graphics card or do I have to do something else to finalize it?
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#18 kodex1717
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You need to flash the BIOS of your graphics card in order for it to be permanently saved.
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#19 ATLReppa770
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You need to flash the BIOS of your graphics card in order for it to be permanently saved.kodex1717

So, you mean it's not saved yet? So then what did I do when I clicked set clock? Also, RivaTuner doesn't work on Vista and nTune and nbitor don't work on XP.

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#20 My_name_a_Borat
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[QUOTE="kodex1717"]You need to flash the BIOS of your graphics card in order for it to be permanently saved.ATLReppa770

So, you mean it's not saved yet? So then what did I do when I clicked set clock? Also, RivaTuner doesn't work on Vista and nTune and nbitor don't work on XP.

Sounds like you didn't read my entire post. I explained everything, including going into DOS mode and applying a new ROM created in NiBiTor.

Yeah, it's long, but if you want an overclocked card under Vista, it's worth the read (if I may say so myself). :P

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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"]

[QUOTE="kodex1717"]You need to flash the BIOS of your graphics card in order for it to be permanently saved.My_name_a_Borat

So, you mean it's not saved yet? So then what did I do when I clicked set clock? Also, RivaTuner doesn't work on Vista and nTune and nbitor don't work on XP.

Sounds like you didn't read my entire post. I explained everything, including going into DOS mode and applying a new ROM created in NiBiTor.

Yeah, it's long, but if you want an overclocked card under Vista, it's worth the read (if I may say so myself). :P

Yeah, I sort of skimmed through it since I didn't have the software you had, but I printed it out and I'll review it over. All I would like to know now is how my computer will perform w/ Test Drive Unlimited and Lost Planet. How much of a frame increase will I see?

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Nobody can say for sure, it depends on the individual card.
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Nobody can say for sure, it depends on the individual card.kodex1717
So, do I use NiBiTor or RivaTuner?
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You don't need to use Rivatuner anymore, since it seems that you've already found your maximum clocks.

Now, you use NiBiTor (under XP) to create a brand new BIOS file with your new clock speeds.

Once saved to a floppy disk, you use NVFlash (under DOS) to apply the new BIOS file.

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I'm looking for software that'll allow me to overclock my 8800GTS for maybe 10-20FPS difference or is that asking for too much? Mainly, in Lost Planet and Halo 2.

ATLReppa770
I honestly thought that you wouldent even need to overclock the 8800GTS in Halo 2. Whats the diffrence overclocked or not because to me, it sounds like overkill
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#27 ATLReppa770
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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"]

I'm looking for software that'll allow me to overclock my 8800GTS for maybe 10-20FPS difference or is that asking for too much? Mainly, in Lost Planet and Halo 2.

TrooperManaic

I honestly thought that you wouldent even need to overclock the 8800GTS in Halo 2. Whats the diffrence overclocked or not because to me, it sounds like overkill

Well then Test Drive Unlimited, Halo 2 is fine now, I changed the resolution and it actually looks better and plays much better too.

You don't need to use Rivatuner anymore, since it seems that you've already found your maximum clocks.

Now, you use NiBiTor (under XP) to create a brand new BIOS file with your new clock speeds.

Once saved to a floppy disk, you use NVFlash (under DOS) to apply the new BIOS file.

My_name_a_Borat

Well, I don't have a floppy drive, is there anything else I would be able to use? USB Flash Drive?

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#28 TrooperManaic
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actually I think that works with nvidias NTUNE program you should check it out. It may beable to overclock the gpu (dont forget to get a extra coolant source if you are overclocking)
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Why would you want to overclock it? Plenty of power factory tuned without any of the risks of over clocking.
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#30 ATLReppa770
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Why would you want to overclock it? Plenty of power factory tuned without any of the risks of over clocking.Unstoppable_1

Well, I was just thinking, if I have, at least, the 6th best graphics card available on the market, why am I not able to run Test Drive: Unlimited & Condemned at full settings w/ 45+ FPS?

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Alright, well I did the first four steps well, but how would I create a MS-DOS bootable disk? Also, I don't think these were my maximum speeds but I just stopped there, it's 620.21/1065.2, something like that. How much of a frame rate increase will I see?
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#34 Makari
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It's a bit random, but the 8800's don't overclock exactly the way you tell them to. They jump up in dividers... for example, 621 -> 648 -> 675. If you set the core speed to somewhere in the middle between 621 and 648, it'll quietly round the speed off to one of those two core clocks without telling you. RivaTuner picks up on that and shows it in the monitoring graphs.
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i just used rivatuner and i got a gain of 20 frames per second. i used the counter strike source video stress test and went from 67 to 87.
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#37 ATLReppa770
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Can someone help me, I have the back-up BIOS for my video card and I found the perfect clocks for my 8800GTS and I scanned for artifacts for about an hour and 10 minutes, as well as ran 3DMark06,like Borat said to do.

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BUMP, borat, you helped me this far, now you don't come back and give a reply?
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BUMP, borat, you helped me this far, now you don't come back and give a reply?ATLReppa770

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#42 WhiteSnake5000
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Usually when it lasts over 10 minutes, your golden. But you Never know, all depends on how hardcore your overclock is.
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Usually when it lasts over 10 minutes, your golden. But you Never know, all depends on how hardcore your overclock is.WhiteSnake5000

Finally a response, since you've overclocked your 8800GTS and we basically have the same specs, me with my 4200+ [Dual-Core] @ 2.41GHz, how did you flash the BIOS onto your card? Also, how much offrame increase did you get?

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#44 WhiteSnake5000
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I honestly can't see a damn difference... lol maybe 3-5 frames extra depending on the game (hey maybe it's my cpu, but I've tried overclocking it to 3ghz and still not seeing the big difference), and I didn't flash it. I find it easier to just let ATI tool to boot up on start in case something does happen.

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#45 ATLReppa770
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I honestly can't see a damn difference... lol maybe 3-5 frames extra depending on the game (hey maybe it's my cpu, but I've tried overclocking it to 3ghz and still not seeing the big difference), and I didn't flash it. I find it easier to just let ATI tool to boot up on start in case something does happen.

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Seriously? 3-5 Frames, that's it? Screw that..

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