Space Siege demo

It should have been up about 15 minutes ago.

It's not, but here's the link: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_spacesiege_downloads.html

It's exclusive to nZone, they have a countdown on the front page and it stopped 15 minutes ago, but still no demo.

Nice, Chris Taylor + Diablo clone is right up my alley.

Hopefully it is up soon.

The banner is based on local pc time instead of the time zone of wherever they are releasing it. So it's probably a good bet that it's gonna be PST which means still 3 hours to go if my late night math is correct. Pyro_Paratus

Does anyone care about Space Siege? What is it doing that's so special?

Dungeon Siege did a lot of things, but it didn't really do any of them well - the entire game was one long grind, but unlike like Diablo 2 (and Titan Quest, to a lesser extent) which has a huge item pool and facilitates the building of very unique and personalised characters (not to mention an upwards spiral of power meaning the game has a lifespan in the thousands of hours), there wasn't really anything to keep the player playing.

A bland and generic story and endless-grind gameplay which isn't backed up by a fleshed out character development system (which is vital for a grindind game) made the game DOA for me.

I'll check out the demo in the hopes that they learned from their mistakes, but if it's DS in a new skin, I really don't see the point.

Does anyone care about Space Siege? What is it doing that's so special?

Dungeon Siege did a lot of things, but it didn't really do any of them well - the entire game was one long grind, but unlike like Diablo 2 (and Titan Quest, to a lesser extent) which has a huge item pool and facilitates the building of very unique and personalised characters (not to mention an upwards spiral of power meaning the game has a lifespan in the thousands of hours), there wasn't really anything to keep the player playing.

A bland and generic story and endless-grind gameplay which isn't backed up by a fleshed out character development system (which is vital for a grindind game) made the game DOA for me.

I'll check out the demo in the hopes that they learned from their mistakes, but if it's DS in a new skin, I really don't see the point.

fatshodan

I agree. I'm current playing the single player I'm not sure what the hell is going on with the story and I personally don't care for the primary quest, much less the secondary. There are characters that pop out in the middle of the game and suddenly want to join the party, but I don't care for any them. I realize that there was some attempt with placing background and some character interaction, but the delivery really just makes me skip through all the in game text. The NPC's were just as mediocre. The only character I cared for was the scorpion pet I bought. However, when it grew to it's full size, there wasn't really much incentive to keep it, and plainly leveling it up for the next two acts seemed boring.

The game is aesthetically beautiful, and that's probably one of the primary reason I keep playing it. I feel pretty satisfied after beating a boss or miniboss and seeing all the colored loot labels when holding the Alt button. With Sega on team for Space Siege, hopefully they add more substance to the game that'll keep characters, items and skills more interesting and unique.

Thanks, im gonna try it out.

Its up on Gamershell btw: http://www.gamershell.com/download_30104.shtml

Can you be a bit more specific then that?

Anybody else have some demo reactions?

Can you be a bit more specific then that?

Anybody else have some demo reactions?

dnuggs40

Animations are horrible, in fact broken, poorly optimised and it's a kind of Alien Shooter with RPG elements similar to Diablo, Dungeon Siege, etc.

At this point the demo (maybe even the game) is broken and it's far from what it should be and the game really is nothing special. They should stick to RTS, because copying games and even more, not being able to make them decent and to solve most of its problems, won't take them far.

Maybe I am to harsh but imo the game is crap and far from finished. They should have spent all this time making another great RTS not a mediocre RPG.

Some will like it, some will not, but so far, I hate it.

What are your PC specs?

And frankly "Alien Shooter with RPG elements similar to Diablo, Dungeon Siege" sounds awesome to me lol...

*edit*

Nevermind, I see your specs in your X-Fire sig. Not a good sign if the game really does run like poo on a good system like yours.

C2Q Q6600 (2.4ghz), 4 gb of RAM same model as you :P at 900mhz, 8800GT.

I get a lot of fps and with V-sync on I have 59-60 frames, it never drops below 59, so it's not because of performance issues, the game itself has problems, especially your character and it's animations, the rest looks fluid, even the NPCs and aliens, but your character and a few others move and interact horrible + the physics are not on the game's side.

It can be fun, but not for long and certainly not enough to get into the story (if it has one), at least for me. It has some interesting attacks (similar to the force :P) but that's all, except the attacks I found it boring. You just kill swarms of aliens and go to a specific location to accomplish something and then kill some more swarms of aliens. Maybe I got tired of stuff like this since Alien Shooter, which I loved at that time, or maybe there is something wrong with the game.

If you like how it sounds, then get it, maybe you'll like it ;).

Cool, thanks for the better detailed post. Like I said earlier in this thread, I have no expectations for this game as I was not even tracking it prior to the demo. Guess I'll just have to check out the demo for myself later today.

It has the graphics (only thing developers care nowadays...) thats pretty much it. Gameplay kinda felt like Hellgate London which I find really bad. Whole Game seems very unpolished, AI is dumb. I really liked Dungeon Siege 2, but this is crap.

The idea wouldnt have been bad, but was executed terribly.

I liked it:|

It was too short, but enough to remind me of System Shock 2, Deus Ex and Failgate - but it's much better than that pile of crap. Remember the catastrophic demo of Hellgate?... This is nowhere as broken as that game. It has potential.

I especially like his special abilities. And the awesome physics.

And of course the AI is dumb, it's a hack'n'slash and the spiritual succesor of Dungeon Siege:P

After playing it again and trying to understand it all I must say it is even worse then I first thought no real loot, lving or any of that.johan1986

CT: Since it's a sci-fi game and Seth is an engineer, it's going to have a very different loot system than Dungeon Siege. It's not about finding stuff by the truckload and picking through it, it's much more selective and thoughtful. Seth will find bits and pieces of things and use them to upgrade himself and his robot companion, HR-V. I think we went a little too far with the crazy amounts of loot in Dungeon Siege, and we'll be dialing that back to be a lot less insane in Space Siege.

And he says the accent is put on the story.

C2Q Q6600 (2.4ghz), 4 gb of RAM same model as you :P at 900mhz, 8800GT.

I get a lot of fps and with V-sync on I have 59-60 frames, it never drops below 59, so it's not because of performance issues, the game itself has problems, especially your character and it's animations, the rest looks fluid, even the NPCs and aliens, but your character and a few others move and interact horrible + the physics are not on the game's side.

It can be fun, but not for long and certainly not enough to get into the story (if it has one), at least for me. It has some interesting attacks (similar to the force :P) but that's all, except the attacks I found it boring. You just kill swarms of aliens and go to a specific location to accomplish something and then kill some more swarms of aliens. Maybe I got tired of stuff like this since Alien Shooter, which I loved at that time, or maybe there is something wrong with the game.

If you like how it sounds, then get it, maybe you'll like it ;).

DanielDust

Thanks for the impressions.

You still fear my Unreal game.

[QUOTE="johan1986"]After playing it again and trying to understand it all I must say it is even worse then I first thought no real loot, lving or any of that.Baranga

CT: Since it's a sci-fi game and Seth is an engineer, it's going to have a very different loot system than Dungeon Siege. It's not about finding stuff by the truckload and picking through it, it's much more selective and thoughtful. Seth will find bits and pieces of things and use them to upgrade himself and his robot companion, HR-V. I think we went a little too far with the crazy amounts of loot in Dungeon Siege, and we'll be dialing that back to be a lot less insane in Space Siege.

And he says the accent is put on the story.

Dungeon Siege had crazy amounts of loot? DS had nowhere near enough, and most of it was pointless! Taylor should play a little game known as Diablo 2 and come to the realisation that a hack 'n' slasher needs strong item-based character development to keep the player killing. Killing is all you do in these games, and killing is not fun - it's a means to an end, the end being character improvement, and the less you're improving your character (the fewer items, stats and skills there are in the game), the less point there is.

I've not yet tried the demo so I don't want to judge it, but if the game is essentially a scifi hack 'n' slasher, then Taylor and his team has no idea what they did wrong with DS, and no idea how to fix it.

can't imagine how this chris taylor guy made a name for himself with medicore products he puts outRT_Jackson

He did do Total Annihilation, which was the first truely 3d RTS... and it was freaking amazing. I spent hours on end playing that game.

hmmm, just played it and finished it in 5 minutes...not really worth the 950mb lol. i guess it was kinda fun, but it sufferes the same problem all simple RPG's like this do... its far too repetetive... they need something to break it up a little, i might try the game out when its released but i dont have overly high expectations.marriage0

My thoughts exactly

Eh...it was alright. Kinda reminds me of Shadowgrounds...but with less detailed graphics, worse animations, worse controls, and no destructable environments.

I liked what I saw from the skill trees, implants, upgrades...but I really don't like the way it controlls. I don't mind a rpg-lite action heavy game like this...but the control scheme really killed it for me. They should have made it so you can control your character with WASD and shoot/aim with the mouse (like Shadowgrounds or Alien Shooter).

The production values also seem very uneven. There are some really nice touches, but other parts of the game seem very cheap.