S.T.A.L.K.E.R Graphics, Bugs, and AI OH MY!!!! (A Poll)

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#1 acidBURN1942
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Personally I think the biggest issue with S.T.A.L.K.E.R is that it just seems like an outdated game. Even though the graphics shine in some areas, they falter in others (Indoors/Outdoors). Even though the AI is realistic, it does not make it fun when I pump a bunch of AMMO into one enemy only to ahve him turn around shoot me twice and then watch as 10 enemies hop around the corner and walk over my dead body. This makes me think even if I did take out that one enemy how was I going to take on 10 more?

Now those kinds of situations have turned into amazing gameplay experiences for me such as , I pop the one enemy in the head, and then STALK around the rest of the group since I moved so fast that they lost me and continually take them down one by one and with strategic grenade throws.

I have not encountered any bugs and the game seems to run fine for me at 1280x1024 at max settings with object dynamic lighting on, my rig is a AMD 64 3400+, 1 gig corsair pc3200+ 2-2-2-5, and a 7600GT AGP running on Windows XP Pro.

I would give S.T.A.L.K.E.R a 7.4/10 now and a 8.6/10 if it released when it was suppose to. the menus are outdated, and it just does not seem like a top tier gaming experience right now, though I do belive that if you like FPS on the PC then S.T.A.L.K.E.R is a game not to be missed.
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#2 BounceDK
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It's the bugs I can't stand, there's just so many of them..
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#3 Iffy350
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Only loosers complain about out of date graphics. The game was suppose to come out several years ago so can you please stop biaching about the graphics.
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#4 FrozeN__54
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Everything is minor IMO. The graphics are great (if you have the right computer, which I don't), the AI is superb, and I have yet to encounter any bugs, crashes or freezes... 8/10 from me, good game.
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I finally got it running after a few headaches with securerom and my plextor drives.

 Its ok i guess. My only problem is i have a really hard time enjoying games under 60fps. With the computer i have i should easily get that on any setting and i dont ( no im not using vista). Its frustrating and makes it almost impossible to enjoy a game that otherwise feels like a good game. 

 

Ive opted to just not play it anymore untill they patch it a few times and take care of all the optimization problems.  Im sure i'll enjoy it more if i just wait for fixes.

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#6 acidBURN1942
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I finally got it running after a few headaches with securerom and my plextor drives.

Its ok i guess. My only problem is i have a really hard time enjoying games under 60fps. With the computer i have i should easily get that on any setting and i dont ( no im not using vista). Its frustrating and makes it almost impossible to enjoy a game that otherwise feels like a good game.

Ive opted to just not play it anymore untill they patch it a few times and take care of all the optimization problems. Im sure i'll enjoy it more if i just wait for fixes.

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Yea even though it runs fine for me I am waiting for the first patch just to see what else they fix other than CTD's and glitches. I want to see if they tweak teh AI or any gameplay adjustments. One of my biggest complaints about this game is its 30km of world! why is it not seamless!!! Loading screens should be a thing of the apst by now!
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#7 acidBURN1942
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Only loosers complain about out of date graphics. The game was suppose to come out several years ago so can you please stop biaching about the graphics.Iffy350
Theres a difference between out of date and unoptomized. STALKER is great looking but for a game that still looks a year or two old why is it so unoptomized? That to me is more of an issue than out of date graphics in ANY game.
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Personally I think the biggest issue with S.T.A.L.K.E.R is that it just seems like an outdated game. Even though the graphics shine in some areas, they falter in others (Indoors/Outdoors). Even though the AI is realistic, it does not make it fun when I pump a bunch of AMMO into one enemy only to ahve him turn around shoot me twice and then watch as 10 enemies hop around the corner and walk over my dead body. This makes me think even if I did take out that one enemy how was I going to take on 10 more?

Now those kinds of situations have turned into amazing gameplay experiences for me such as , I pop the one enemy in the head, and then STALK around the rest of the group since I moved so fast that they lost me and continually take them down one by one and with strategic grenade throws.

I have not encountered any bugs and the game seems to run fine for me at 1280x1024 at max settings with object dynamic lighting on, my rig is a AMD 64 3400+, 1 gig corsair pc3200+ 2-2-2-5, and a 7600GT AGP running on Windows XP Pro.

I would give S.T.A.L.K.E.R a 7.4/10 now and a 8.6/10 if it released when it was suppose to. the menus are outdated, and it just does not seem like a top tier gaming experience right now, though I do belive that if you like FPS on the PC then S.T.A.L.K.E.R is a game not to be missed.
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Sorry dude, but I can't understand what you mean. I have: 2,4 GHz Pentium IV 2 x 512 MB DDR1 333 NVidia 6800 GS I have a german version and I have one bug in this game: Quickload-Bug
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#9 tramp
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Only loosers complain about out of date graphics. The game was suppose to come out several years ago so can you please stop biaching about the graphics.Iffy350

Thing is the graphics are pretty crud and the game still runs like crap. The AI is screwed as well. People are always seeing me through walls or trying to shoot me through them.

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#10 Citan76
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Most of these things can be fixed with patches. Although you'd think they would have time to put it out in working order. Nothing can be done about outdated graphics, but I am not really one to care about that ( I am currently playing a character through the original fallout for about the 12th time in my life). I can understand how some people could be turned off by it though.

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#11 maniXsan
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I think that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is overall a great game, graphics and all. But I do have problems with the game crashing to desktop what is probably due to compatibility issues with Vista. But a patch or two should fix that.
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#12 BounceDK
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I think that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is overall a great game, graphics and all. But I do have problems with the game crashing to desktop what is probably due to compatibility issues with Vista. But a patch or two should fix that.maniXsan
Yep that's a vista issue. All of my friends who has Vista will crash after about 90 sec. I have XP however and it runs smooth as butter.
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#13 Info_Read
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So tell me guys.. Has anyone ran into the problem of crashing directly upon launch of the game?? ex..you hear audio but got no video and the WHAAPAMM... crashin like I hit a friggin wall..
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#14 Killfox
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To me the graphics looks awesome and all the effects are top notch. Im running the game at max and I have yet to go below 30FPS. The only time I have experience bugs was when I first started off in the first level. After that I havent had one single glitch or bug. Also the devs already said that there are already working on a patch. So stop crying. The AI very good. I love the noise thing so they know where you are. They are pretty good at popping out of no where then killing you. the beginning is slow but once you get going its great. I think gamespot got it right when they said 8.5. Its a pretty decent game with some cool moments in it. I think Ill say this one more time. The graphics are fine. They suit the mood and atmosphere of the game. Outdoor levels looks pretty good with some cool radiation effects and the weather is awesome. Especially when its dark and lighting at nigt. It looks awesome. The indoor levels look very good. The flashlight looks very cool. Its very detailed when an enemy is shining it everwhere and in the rain. Looks very cool. Well, i am enjoying this game very much. Cant wait to get further.
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#15 Qixote
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the biggest issue isn't even on the poll. the horrendous load time.
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#16 mad0260
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the biggest issue isn't even on the poll. the horrendous load time. Qixote
agreed. other than that everything is pretty minor
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#17 HappyPeaceGuy
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I finally got it running after a few headaches with securerom and my plextor drives.

Its ok i guess. My only problem is i have a really hard time enjoying games under 60fps. With the computer i have i should easily get that on any setting and i dont ( no im not using vista). Its frustrating and makes it almost impossible to enjoy a game that otherwise feels like a good game.

 

Ive opted to just not play it anymore untill they patch it a few times and take care of all the optimization problems. Im sure i'll enjoy it more if i just wait for fixes.

Alter_Echo

 

Or, you could quit moaning about frame rates and upgrade your hardware. I have E6600/2GB Corsair/eVGA 8800GTX & S.T.A.L.K.E.R. runs flawlessly.

If those of you who maon about graphics while running prehistoric hardware weren't so pathetic, I'd almost feel sympathetic.

 You thinking about posting back now "Alter_Echo" with: Blah blah I have 8800GTX SLI blah blah - don't bother, I know that if you're witnessing slow-downs (mr less than 60fps) you're not even close to being on the forefront of hardware tech because S.T.A.L.K.E.R. also runs very nicely on 7800GTX SLI.

 Yes, that AI has it bugs but if anyone can name a single game that also shows brillance* like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has done, I'll eat my own earwax.

*No-one who has played the game can claim that they went right through without seeing some very, very impressive AI. 

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I see a lot of potential for this game, but as it is now it is still a very good game.  The AI is amazing, for one thing.  Example: I was at that train bridge where the army guys were guarding, and I said to myself "Hey, I want thier guns!"  So, I went up top and tried to ambush them from above.  Sadly, my pistol and sawed-off shotty were too innacurate at 50 yards so I had to hide.  Then the army guys ran up the hill at me, from both side (the bridge is on top of a hill, so there are slopes on both sides of the tracks) and tried to flank me.  Fortunately I got off two lucky bursts with my sawed-off at like 5 yards, so there were two dead guys, each with AK-74SUs and some ammo.  That made taking out the other three or four guys much easier.

The animal AI is quite interesting.  Dogs attack in packs, and if you shoot one they will run away.  Mutant Boars act aggressive, just like real life boars (anyone who has gone  boar hunting knows that a gunshot wont deter them from charging you) and dont run away when being shot.

And, perhaps greatest of all, is that all the battles are not "self-centered."  In other words, you can come across 4 human enemes attacking some dogs or boars and sneak by them, or you can wait out the battle and then kill the weakened enemy, or you can join in the battle and take out whatever enemy is the greatest threat while they are distracted.

Someone said before that bad graphics are one thing, while optimization is quite another.  I agree; this game has decent graphics, but for an engine that is years old I should expecty Halflife-2 quality graphics on a mid-range system, at the LEAST!  But, for now, I will just have to live with a slighlty lower resolution and enjoy the solid gameplay.

I am going to wait until the game is patched before I do my official player review.  At the moment, its a very good and challenging game (but its challenging for the wrong reasons).

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#19 Info_Read
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Only loosers complain about out of date graphics. The game was suppose to come out several years ago so can you please stop biaching about the graphics.Iffy350
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#20 Info_Read
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So exactly what did you do to get past those quick headaches of install? and what were they?
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#21 mrbojangles25
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OK guys, a got my review:

"STALKER; well, its not as bad as Daikatana."

HAHAHAHAHHA :twisted:

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#22 acidBURN1942
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OK guys, a got my review:

"STALKER; well, its not as bad as Daikatana."

HAHAHAHAHHA :twisted:

mrbojangles25
LOL very funny :) I also agree with what you said at the end of your previous post. (Paraphrased) "This game is fun and challenging (though challenging for the wrong reasons) This is utterly wahts wrong with this game. I was palying today and I shot someone point blank with that sawed off shotty and they just started peppering me with a few bullets and i died so fast I could not pull off the second shot in my shotgun. This is BS it shows me teh DMG models are ALL wrong.
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#23 nutcrackr
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It's all minor. In reality when you compare the game to all other games before it to me none of these things matter much. Yes in reality we should be at the stage where something like stalker can be pulled off with a high level of polish and consistency. But so few games have done things like Stalker that it seems pointless to compare it with other linear games.
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#24 mrbojangles25
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I got a feeling STALKER is gonna turn into a cult-classic of sorts, much like Deus Ex or the Vampire: The Masquerade game.  There is gonna be a die hard fanbase with tons of user-made patches and mods, and those of us faithful players will [eventually] be awared with one of the greatest games ever made.

As it is now, however, the game needs a lot of work and I sometimes ask myself what they did with those extra few years.  Im still gonna stick with it though.

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#25 acidBURN1942
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But so few games have done things like Stalker that it seems pointless to compare it with other linear games.nutcrackr
The thing is those "so few games" have already been released that they should have been improved upon but instead what we get are great unimproved games. I want improvvement and innovation in every game OR a highly polished game or else it does not recieve my money. It will recieve ym attention and gaming time but not my money ever if it does not keep the industry improving. What are some of these things that STALKER does? just to start some converstaiona dn debate on them.

I got a feeling STALKER is gonna turn into a cult-****c of sorts, much like Deus Ex or the Vampire: The Masquerade game. There is gonna be a die hard fanbase with tons of user-made patches and mods, and those of us faithful players will [eventually] be awared with one of the greatest games ever made.

As it is now, however, the game needs a lot of work and I sometimes ask myself what they did with those extra few years. Im still gonna stick with it though.

mrbojangles25


I feel the same way, and hopefully those patches and mods will fix issues that people find with the game. I am also sticking wtih it because what STALKER actually is, is something I enjoy to play. Though to me....there is nothing new here, and there was not enough polish given to the game or thought given to certain aspects of the game that CANNOT be ignored now-a-days.

Such as loading times, dmg models, LAODING ZONES in a 32 KM world makes me very....very....upset ESPECIALLY after playing games such as Oblivion where there are no Loading times in the world, seamless MMO's (WoW, kinda Vangaurd), and others. Time should have been spent making their AMAZING old game more next gen. Not in graphics but in menus and interfaces and voice acting and POLISH!!!!
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#26 bobthehippo
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I bought STALKER hoping for a great game and I got it. Sadly, due to issues with my nvidia 7300 i cant play it without an extremely annoying graphical bug(the sky is completly colorless and trees, crows and shrubs leave outlines) I cant enjoy it on my machine. However i played it on my roomate's compy and I had loads of fun. If you have the right computer, stalker is a superb game.
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#27 smokeydabear076
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I have no issues with the game so far, but I have not played it for long. Maybe I will find some problems with the game tomorrow. As of right now though it is great in every aspect.
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#28 Alter_Echo
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[QUOTE="Alter_Echo"]

I finally got it running after a few headaches with securerom and my plextor drives.

Its ok i guess. My only problem is i have a really hard time enjoying games under 60fps. With the computer i have i should easily get that on any setting and i dont ( no im not using vista). Its frustrating and makes it almost impossible to enjoy a game that otherwise feels like a good game.

 

Ive opted to just not play it anymore untill they patch it a few times and take care of all the optimization problems. Im sure i'll enjoy it more if i just wait for fixes.

HappyPeaceGuy

 

Or, you could quit moaning about frame rates and upgrade your hardware. I have E6600/2GB Corsair/eVGA 8800GTX & S.T.A.L.K.E.R. runs flawlessly.

If those of you who maon about graphics while running prehistoric hardware weren't so pathetic, I'd almost feel sympathetic.

You thinking about posting back now "Alter_Echo" with: Blah blah I have 8800GTX SLI blah blah - don't bother, I know that if you're witnessing slow-downs (mr less than 60fps) you're not even close to being on the forefront of hardware tech because S.T.A.L.K.E.R. also runs very nicely on 7800GTX SLI.

Yes, that AI has it bugs but if anyone can name a single game that also shows brillance* like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has done, I'll eat my own earwax.

*No-one who has played the game can claim that they went right through without seeing some very, very impressive AI.

Look around. Im not the only one. Lots of people with 8800's are having problems. I could load up and run a bench and send you the orb link if i was even remotely interested in what you think.

 I giggled a little inside knowing i could probably drop a pelt in my chilled water loop  and swap to a higher flow gpu block and double you off in almost every bench. 

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#29 Artosa
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I bought STALKER hoping for a great game and I got it. Sadly, due to issues with my nvidia 7300 i cant play it without an extremely annoying graphical bug(the sky is completly colorless and trees, crows and shrubs leave outlines) I cant enjoy it on my machine. However i played it on my roomate's compy and I had loads of fun. If you have the right computer, stalker is a superb game.bobthehippo
update your drivers.
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#30 AngelB1ack
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So basicly pay for a game that has taken 6 years to develope and make and it still needs alot of work...

Sounds like a great game. :roll:

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#31 ktkiller626
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do you guys think i'll be able to run it, i have a Intel Core 2 Duo running at 1.67Ghz i got 2GB or Ram and a 256mb Nvidia GeForce 7600 the hard drive doesnt matter cus i got to runnin at 7200rpm im able to run F.E.A.R at the highest settings and half life 2 and far cry, what do you think, i want this game, but i dont want to buy a game tahts gonna be difficult to run
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#32 TryDaBeardON
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I'm running the game on medium quality on 6800 GS OC. Shadow slider maxxed, no sun shadows, no grass shadows Had 20-25 fps on 1024*860 with a bit of a stutter every now and then, switched to 800*600 - now I get about 30 fps steady. Surprisingly, 800*600 doesn't look bad at all. The specs do seem a bit too high for the quality, but I think that's just the x-ray engine being poorly optimized. This should have about the same requirements as half-life 2 episode one, which runs a lot better on my machine. Regardless, I don't really have a problem with graphics. Nor anything else for that matter, aside from the loading times and some side quests.

I do feel a bit... lonely and scared sometimes when I play.

p.s. I wish you guys understood the chatter. Like when the chopper passes overhead in the beginning and you hear the dudes talk through the speaker you really feel like you've come within an inch of death. It really helps with immersion. Serves as a comic relief, also, which I often seem to need.

p.p.s Oh yeah, and goof prize of the month goes to Xfire for plastering the profile page with Stalker ads and not detecting the game.

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.........Even though the graphics shine in some areas, they falter in others (Indoors/Outdoors)...........
acidBURN1942
WHERE ELSE CAN THEY FALTER?
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#34 mrbojangles25
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do you guys think i'll be able to run it, i have a Intel Core 2 Duo running at 1.67Ghz i got 2GB or Ram and a 256mb Nvidia GeForce 7600 the hard drive doesnt matter cus i got to runnin at 7200rpm im able to run F.E.A.R at the highest settings and half life 2 and far cry, what do you think, i want this game, but i dont want to buy a game tahts gonna be difficult to run ktkiller626

I got the same system almost (E6400, 2GB memory, 7600GT) and it runs fine.

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#35 david920
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Guys i got a problem on S.T.A.L.K.E.R and that is when i move the sky and trees and birds are drawn everywhere the screen, trees are dragged and layered everywhere, everything else is fine, i have a Geforce FX 6200 256MB card, i tried downloading the latest driver and it didnt help...... anyone know what it could be? or any patches to fix it? help will be appreciated :D
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#36 F4ll3n_1
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I have XP. It ran fine for a few minutes, then I died and once I managed to get back to the same bit, it crashed.

Tried again from my save, bit longer, then crashed, again, still crashed. It just....freezes. I can tolerate slight jumps and things, cos they tend to lay up after a while, but freezing like that is obviously unaccceptable. It needs patching VERY VERY quickly!

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#37 acidBURN1942
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do you guys think i'll be able to run it, i have a Intel Core 2 Duo running at 1.67Ghz i got 2GB or Ram and a 256mb Nvidia GeForce 7600 the hard drive doesnt matter cus i got to runnin at 7200rpm im able to run F.E.A.R at the highest settings and half life 2 and far cry, what do you think, i want this game, but i dont want to buy a game tahts gonna be difficult to run ktkiller626
Your system is better than mine and I run it on High at 1280x1024. With no major FPS drops.
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#38 acidBURN1942
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[QUOTE="acidBURN1942"].........Even though the graphics shine in some areas, they falter in others (Indoors/Outdoors)...........
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WHERE ELSE CAN THEY FALTER?

Sorry, I sometimes write illogically. This is what I mean. Even though the graphics shine in some areas (indoors), they falter in others (outdoors). I meant respectively.
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#39 david920
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Can anyone help with my problem? about the trees and sky and birds messing up, it works fine besides when i look up lol! and PS i have new drivers
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#40 acidBURN1942
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Can anyone help with my problem? about the trees and sky and birds messing up, it works fine besides when i look up lol! and PS i have new driversdavid920
Turn your graphics down, wait for a patch, drop your clock speeds on your GPU a tad if your overclocked.
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#41 HangoveRR
Member since 2007 • 25 Posts

No bugs or crashes for me so far...runs almost perfect..

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#42 indzman
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The game is awesome ( playing it now) , but it seriously need's a 100 % working patch.

 

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#43 HuckinFilarious
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Can someone please enlighten me on the MP aspect of the game since GS felt it uncessary to include it in their review for some reason. If I buy the game it will be based on how fun, how much replayability, and overall how the MP is.
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#44 mrbojangles25
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Can someone please enlighten me on the MP aspect of the game since GS felt it uncessary to include it in their review for some reason. If I buy the game it will be based on how fun, how much replayability, and overall how the MP is.HuckinFilarious

I thought Gamespot said it was fairly average, and that the relic mode or whatever its called didnt really work out too well.

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#45 david920
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how do i clock my GPU
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#46 TheWalrusKing
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Or, you could quit moaning about frame rates and upgrade your hardware. I have E6600/2GB Corsair/eVGA 8800GTX & S.T.A.L.K.E.R. runs flawlessly.

If those of you who maon about graphics while running prehistoric hardware weren't so pathetic, I'd almost feel sympathetic.

You thinking about posting back now "Alter_Echo" with: Blah blah I have 8800GTX SLI blah blah - don't bother, I know that if you're witnessing slow-downs (mr less than 60fps) you're not even close to being on the forefront of hardware tech because S.T.A.L.K.E.R. also runs very nicely on 7800GTX SLI.

Yes, that AI has it bugs but if anyone can name a single game that also shows brillance* like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has done, I'll eat my own earwax.

*No-one who has played the game can claim that they went right through without seeing some very, very impressive AI.

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Not to sound like a jerk but mind lending me 2000 dollars for that pc specs? not everyone can afford it. But I do think the game runs pretty well, and so far its real fun. I have a 2500+ AthlonXP (32bit no less) and 1gb ddr1, and a 6800gt, and im running real good, prolly at medium settings mostly. Turning off the dynamic lights helps alot.
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#47 ktkiller626
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[QUOTE="ktkiller626"]do you guys think i'll be able to run it, i have a Intel Core 2 Duo running at 1.67Ghz i got 2GB or Ram and a 256mb Nvidia GeForce 7600 the hard drive doesnt matter cus i got to runnin at 7200rpm im able to run F.E.A.R at the highest settings and half life 2 and far cry, what do you think, i want this game, but i dont want to buy a game tahts gonna be difficult to run mrbojangles25

I got the same system almost (E6400, 2GB memory, 7600GT) and it runs fine.

 

hows the quality? like the settings Â