Standard TV in native 1080p resolution?

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#1 costyssj4
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is there a way to make the tv run the sdtv signal at 1080p instead pf 480i or 576i?

maybe with an accesory or something, the signal is transmited with a SCART cable.

thanks.

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#2 PEELEDbanana
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Nope, your TV can't support that many pixels at the same time. Looks like it is time to upgrade, buddy.

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#3 FamiBox
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I think he meant he has a 1080p TV and he wants to upconvert a standard 480i signal to 1080p.

You don't need to do this as your TV is already upcoverting what you give it. You can't make it look any better.

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#4 costyssj4
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Hello and ty for your responses.

My TV supports 1080p its a 42'' LG HDTV.

I can use this resolution with my pc if i connected it to HDMI in my video card.

It also says what signal it recieves.

PC 1080p

TV channel box 576i

and DVDplayer 480p

To test this i ran a DVDrip through my pc and it looked alot better since it was on the native resolution of the TV.

I ran the same DVDrip on my DVDplayer and it looked alot worse.

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#5 costyssj4
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What i am trying to do is make the TV stay at 1080p and run the program channels. that are standard definiton. I want to upscale the image so it will not look with shifted pixels that you get with anything lower that native resolution. Especially since its the lowest which makes it look very poor quality and even my standart CRT TV looks better. I was thinking there was such an accesory that i can connect my TVbox signal to that accesory and then to my TV.
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#6 shawty1984
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What i am trying to do is make the TV stay at 1080p and run the program channels. that are standard definiton. I want to upscale the image so it will not look with shifted pixels that you get with anything lower that native resolution. Especially since its the lowest which makes it look very poor quality and even my standart CRT TV looks better. I was thinking there was such an accesory that i can connect my TVbox signal to that accesory and then to my TV.costyssj4


Your TV will be upscalling anything it recieves even when it says 576i as the input. I prefer to have my SD channels as original and not streched to fir the screens resolution.

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What i am trying to do is make the TV stay at 1080p and run the program channels. that are standard definiton. I want to upscale the image so it will not look with shifted pixels that you get with anything lower that native resolution. Especially since its the lowest which makes it look very poor quality and even my standart CRT TV looks better. I was thinking there was such an accesory that i can connect my TVbox signal to that accesory and then to my TV.costyssj4
I get what you mean. You basically want something to upscale 480p signal to 1080p before being output into your TV. In other words you don't want your TV to do the upscaling for you which is what's happening now, apparent LG has really horrible upscaling fron what I gather. You will never get pixel per pixel mapping of a true 1080p signal with any hardware upscaling. But to get what you want, you need a hardware upscaler independent of your TV. For your DVD Player, you need a 1080p upscaling DVD Player. This will do exactly what you are asking. It will upconvert the 480p signal to 1080p before sending it to your TV. Thus your TV will say 1080p in it's signal display box. Doing this actually gets better results then TV upscalers. P.S Don't listen to Shawty1984, this guy has no idea what he's talking about.
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#8 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="costyssj4"]What i am trying to do is make the TV stay at 1080p and run the program channels. that are standard definiton. I want to upscale the image so it will not look with shifted pixels that you get with anything lower that native resolution. Especially since its the lowest which makes it look very poor quality and even my standart CRT TV looks better. I was thinking there was such an accesory that i can connect my TVbox signal to that accesory and then to my TV.pimperjones
I get what you mean. You basically want something to upscale 480p signal to 1080p before being output into your TV. In other words you don't want your TV to do the upscaling for you which is what's happening now, apparent LG has really horrible upscaling fron what I gather. You will never get pixel per pixel mapping of a true 1080p signal with any hardware upscaling. But to get what you want, you need a hardware upscaler independent of your TV. For your DVD Player, you need a 1080p upscaling DVD Player. This will do exactly what you are asking. It will upconvert the 480p signal to 1080p before sending it to your TV. Thus your TV will say 1080p in it's signal display box. Doing this actually gets better results then TV upscalers. P.S Don't listen to Shawty1984, this guy has no idea what he's talking about.



Having another go are you?

A DVD scaler depenent on price will be no better than what the TV scales. Most cheap DVD upscalers are a con and just a waste of money.

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#10 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="pimperjones"] I get what you mean. You basically want something to upscale 480p signal to 1080p before being output into your TV. In other words you don't want your TV to do the upscaling for you which is what's happening now, apparent LG has really horrible upscaling fron what I gather. You will never get pixel per pixel mapping of a true 1080p signal with any hardware upscaling. But to get what you want, you need a hardware upscaler independent of your TV. For your DVD Player, you need a 1080p upscaling DVD Player. This will do exactly what you are asking. It will upconvert the 480p signal to 1080p before sending it to your TV. Thus your TV will say 1080p in it's signal display box. Doing this actually gets better results then TV upscalers. P.S Don't listen to Shawty1984, this guy has no idea what he's talking about. pimperjones



Having another go are you?

A DVD scaler depenent on price will be no better than what the TV scales. Most cheap DVD upscalers are a con and just a waste of money.


Hey, Einstein why don't you try answering the man's question for once, instead of giving people your wild personal opinions. Nobody asked for your opinons on a scaler.
He asked for a device that upconverts 480p signals to 1080p for the TV. The answer Cha Chin "A hardware scaler"
I guess you couldn't google that answer could ya. Once again, proving you're a noob.

P.S It's "dependent" not depenent. For crying out loud have some self respect. Please don't go crying to mods again, LOL. I'm sorry, I will play nice. LOL



Because I was replying to you.

Oh sorry, I made a spelling mistake, someone shoot me. Crying to the mods again? I never did it the first time.

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#11 pimperjones
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Yeah, that's why you opted to not answer his question in your first post. Before I even decided to joined the discussion.
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#12 shawty1984
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Yeah, that's why you opted to not answer his question in your first post. Before I even decided to joined the discussion. pimperjones


I answered with a fact. Anything he feeds his TV will be upscaled anyway. Why dont you wait till the OP comes back to see if I was helpful at all. I tell you something, your debating skills are very weak.

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#14 shawty1984
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Weak enough to make you cry to the mods. Whhhattttt! You set yourself up for that one. pimperjones


Erm, no. I neverwent to the mods, so how do you even come to the conclusion that I just set myself up, think harder next time please.

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Every where I look more chuckles:-)
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#16 costyssj4
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Thank you :), The HD scaler is something I was looking for :). Shawty1984, you are right about the up scaling of the signal to fill the screen, i didn't expect standard definition to be transformed to HD definition. But that doesn't mean that the upscaler will not make it look better since the problem was not the resolution of the videos, but the resolution the TV sets itself in. LCD's have to be in native resolution too look crisp, i see that if its lower than 1080p it has artifacts and looks very blocky. For example as i said before. I have a DVD player, when i connect it the TV sets the resolution to 480p and movies look bad. If i use the PC and select 1080p and play the same movie its like watching it in close to HD not 1080p but 720p. After i read specifications of these Hardware upscalers, it says they Transmit pure 1080p signal from any source i connect it to, making the TV stay at native resolution thus making it look crisp. I wonder why they don't include this in the TV's in the first place. Thank you all for your suggestions.
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#17 rastan
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It is included in every flat panel as flat panels have to scale everything to the sets native resolution. It's just that there are some very poor scalers and there are some very good ones. A good Tv will have a good scaler. Often this is what differentiates the different models in the product line.