Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, whyyyyy???

Does anyone else thing LucasArts are shooting themselves not only in the foot, but in the head by not bringing this to PC?

I mean, the Jedi Knight series was a brilliant success on the PC and some of the best multiplayer I personally have ever had, it also had a wonderful mod community. In fact, almost every star wars game to hit the PC has blown the roof off, so why abandon it now?

Ive got no doubt that SWtFU will improve on every aspect of JK 2/3 (I know its not the same game, but the concept is undeniably similar), so why are they not bringing it to the PC where it can flower and flourish in the same way?

Does anyone else thing LucasArts are shooting themselves not only in the foot, but in the head by not bringing this to PC?

I mean, the Jedi Knight series was a brilliant success on the PC and some of the best multiplayer I personally have ever had, it also had a wonderful mod community. In fact, almost every star wars game to hit the PC has blown the roof off, so why abandon it now?

Ive got no doubt that SWtFU will improve on every aspect of JK 2/3 (I know its not the same game, but the concept is undeniably similar), so why are they not bringing it to the PC where it can flower and flourish in the same way?

F4ll3n_1

Because they hate us. FU will probably come on the pc 6 month following the console release date, LA will not turn down million of profit they could make from the Euro/asia market.

Some 'higher up' suit is smoking some serious man pole making this decision.MasterJawa

:lol: Fairplay thats so true

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

I don't understand why they won't put it on PC. PC could obviously run anything a console could.

The engine that they're using looks like the best ever for consoles though, see the YouTube clip if you don't believe me.

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

Cranler

Thats a negative Ghostrider.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

DucksBrains

Thats a negative Ghostrider.

I doubt COD 4 sold even 500k copies on pc. Thats the best selling pc action game of the year. 360 version has sold over 2 million.

Halo 3 sold 8 million copies. Add up the sales for COD 4, Crysis, Stalker, Orange Box, Bioshock, Quake Wars, UT3 etc, not even close to 8 million.

[QUOTE="DucksBrains"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

Cranler

Thats a negative Ghostrider.

I doubt COD 4 sold even 500k copies on pc. Thats the best selling pc action game of the year. 360 version has sold over 2 million.

Halo 3 sold 8 million copies. Add up the sales for COD 4, Crysis, Stalker, Orange Box, Bioshock, Quake Wars, UT3 etc, not even close to 8 million.

Don't console game sales get a % taken off the top to go to M$? Yes I am comparing $ales to units.

Plus PC games sell longer over their lifespan then console games as user's hardware catches up to the game. Oh and last I checked digitally distributed PC games don't get counted in sales figures.

Another thing is, that once the main costs of developing the game are done with, it wouldnt cost much for them to convert it to run on PC (they've got to be using some common coding to get it on 5 other consoles at the same time - so why not PC? I mean, its developed on a PC for gods sake) and ship it out on PC. They would still make a large profit, especially as its a SW game. This would end up giving them more leeway for future projects. Even if people arent as into PC gaming as they used to be (I hate it when people say its dying - Its not), people would buy a SW title of this calibre by the shedload - and providing they dont sign up to run with GFWL (I forget if its gonna have MP or not) keeping a free multiplayer server browser - they'll make a killing.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="DucksBrains"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

Krall

Thats a negative Ghostrider.

I doubt COD 4 sold even 500k copies on pc. Thats the best selling pc action game of the year. 360 version has sold over 2 million.

Halo 3 sold 8 million copies. Add up the sales for COD 4, Crysis, Stalker, Orange Box, Bioshock, Quake Wars, UT3 etc, not even close to 8 million.

Don't console game sales get a % taken off the top to go to M$? Yes I am comparing $ales to units.

Plus PC games sell longer over their lifespan then console games as user's hardware catches up to the game. Oh and last I checked digitally distributed PC games don't get counted in sales figures.

Thats why console games are $60. $10 goes to hardware manufacturer.

Cod 4 runs great on older pc's yet even the PS3 version sold better. Not 1 pc game in the top ten for November.

Top Console and PC Games of November:

1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (X360, Infinity Ward, Activision) 1.57 million
2. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii, Nintendo) 1.12 million
3. Assassin's Creed (X360, Ubisoft Montreal, Ubisoft) 980,000
4. Guitar Hero III: Legends Of Rock Bundle (PS2, Budcat, Activision) 967,000
5. Wii Play with remote (Wii, Nintendo) 564,000
6. Mass Effect (X360, BioWare, Microsoft) 473,000
7. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PS3, Infinity Ward, Activision) 444,000
8. Guitar Hero III: Legends Of Rock Bundle (Wii, Vicarious Visions, Activision) 426,000
9. Halo 3 (X360, Bungie, Microsoft) 387,000
10. Assassin's Creed (PS3, Ubisoft Montreal, Ubisoft) 377,000

From Gamespot:

By NPD's own account, it will be changing how it defines PC gaming revenue in 2006. "While we have seen retail sales of PC games decrease for several years now, we know from talking to consumers about their online gaming behaviors that playing games on the PC, whether it's via online casual sites or through MMO subscription play, has been increasing," said NPD analyst Anita Frazier in a statement. "As a result, NPD will be launching its new definition of the US PC game market this spring, which will include a combination of sales from retail, downloads, and both casual and MMO subscription revenues. We expect this will add significant dollars to the PC game market size."

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6142571.html

I think the pc is still the ultimate gaming platform and had the best selection of games in 2007.

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

Cranler

i have to agree. console games, especially games like this with its advanced technology and features, will nearly always outsell its PC counter-part, especially when its released first. the main reason being, most new PC games are too demanding for the common user. sure the game will sell on for a longer period of time, but even then it wont always add up, since most PC gamers would have moved on from then. it is rare that 12 months after a game is realeased, it will go on to sell a million copies just coz most users have upgraded their PC's.

and besides, as awesome as this game is gonna be, would you, as avid PC gamers, be willing to settle for second best and play a ported copy? you know porting sucks like 90% of the time. im getting this for PS3 for the graphics, and the Nintendo Wii coz its supposed to have lightsaber duels with the Wii-Mote. its all about marketing and money, they dont care about die hard fans.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="DucksBrains"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

Krall

Thats a negative Ghostrider.

I doubt COD 4 sold even 500k copies on pc. Thats the best selling pc action game of the year. 360 version has sold over 2 million.

Halo 3 sold 8 million copies. Add up the sales for COD 4, Crysis, Stalker, Orange Box, Bioshock, Quake Wars, UT3 etc, not even close to 8 million.

Don't console game sales get a % taken off the top to go to M$? Yes I am comparing $ales to units.

Plus PC games sell longer over their lifespan then console games as user's hardware catches up to the game. Oh and last I checked digitally distributed PC games don't get counted in sales figures.

Everytime someone say the console sale, I alway remove 20% of the actual game sold, to make a fair comparaison with the pc game sold. My guess is that 20% of the sale of a consolegame worldwidecome from rental store, like BlockBuster. I've yet to see a pc game in a rental store.

[QUOTE="Krall"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="DucksBrains"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

Franko_3

Thats a negative Ghostrider.

I doubt COD 4 sold even 500k copies on pc. Thats the best selling pc action game of the year. 360 version has sold over 2 million.

Halo 3 sold 8 million copies. Add up the sales for COD 4, Crysis, Stalker, Orange Box, Bioshock, Quake Wars, UT3 etc, not even close to 8 million.

Don't console game sales get a % taken off the top to go to M$? Yes I am comparing $ales to units.

Plus PC games sell longer over their lifespan then console games as user's hardware catches up to the game. Oh and last I checked digitally distributed PC games don't get counted in sales figures.

Everytime someone say the console sale, I alway remove 20% of the actual game sold, to make a fair comparaison with the pc game sold. My guess is that 20% of the sale of a consolegame worldwidecome from rental store, like BlockBuster. I've yet to see a pc game in a rental store.

I like how people are using the NPD numbers to represent the entire PC gaming market sales yet NPD only tracks North American retail. Not European (the larger market by far for PC games) or digital sales.foxhound_fox

Can I have a link please sir..OoSuperMarioO

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Can I have a link please sir..foxhound_fox

Then how can anyone trust you?OoSuperMarioO

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Then how can anyone trust you?foxhound_fox

So every PC game sells more in Europe?Another question, Asia is a huge market as well with a higher population than that of Europe yet the sales doesnt surpass N.A, why is that?OoSuperMarioO

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Then how can anyone trust you?OoSuperMarioO

If that is true, then it's because unlike in Europe, PC gaming isn't a large market in Asia. Fox is right, countless European GS'ers have claimed PC gaming is an enormous market there, some saying it's even bigger than the console market in the region.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I like how people are using the NPD numbers to represent the entire PC gaming market sales yet NPD only tracks North American retail. Not European (the larger market by far for PC games) or digital sales.OoSuperMarioO

Supposedly NPD does track digital distribution now.

PC games do sell better percentage wise in Europe than in the US. This chart shows lots of pc games in the top 10.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/sales-charts/european-sales-charts-316590.php

This Uk chart has some multiplatform games that are on pc but i doubt the pc version got them there

http://www.elspa.com/?c=/charts/uk.jsp&ct=29

Unfortunately I doubt pc action game sales are anywhere near console game sales worldwide. Thats why you see so many studios that used to focus on pc shifting gears. Valve, Epic, Infinity Ward, Monolith etc

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]So every PC game sells more in Europe?Another question, Asia is a huge market as well with a higher population than that of Europe yet the sales doesnt surpass N.A, why is that?foxhound_fox

Please share a link where video cards sold more world wide then the sales of all consoles combined.

I may not be 100% guaranteed correct but games worth mentioning that gives the PC industry legs are subscription based games. I.E World of Warcraft which seems to be the best selling PC game period but yet there's no other game that can pull something off like that on PC platform. It's pretty sad though that it takes subscription value to even mention a PC game sell compared to a console game.

OoSuperMarioO

actually, the best selling pc game of all time is the sims, followed by the sims 2. and they compare quite favorably to the best selling console games.

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]

I may not be 100% guaranteed correct but games worth mentioning that gives the PC industry legs are subscription based games. I.E World of Warcraft which seems to be the best selling PC game period but yet there's no other game that can pull something off like that on PC platform. It's pretty sad though that it takes subscription value to even mention a PC game sell compared to a console game.

fireandcloud

actually, the best selling pc game of all time is the sims, followed by the sims 2. and they compare quite favorably to the best selling console games.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

I hate to say it but not making a pc version wont put a huge dent on sales. They could easily sell 1.5 million copies on 360. They'd be lucky to get 250k on pc.

I bet Halo 3 outsold all the pc action games of 2007 put together.

gtarmanrob

i have to agree. console games, especially games like this with its advanced technology and features, will nearly always outsell its PC counter-part, especially when its released first. the main reason being, most new PC games are too demanding for the common user. sure the game will sell on for a longer period of time, but even then it wont always add up, since most PC gamers would have moved on from then. it is rare that 12 months after a game is realeased, it will go on to sell a million copies just coz most users have upgraded their PC's.

and besides, as awesome as this game is gonna be, would you, as avid PC gamers, be willing to settle for second best and play a ported copy? you know porting sucks like 90% of the time. im getting this for PS3 for the graphics, and the Nintendo Wii coz its supposed to have lightsaber duels with the Wii-Mote. its all about marketing and money, they dont care about die hard fans.

If this case has holds any ground then its enough evidence to say that, perhaps, for a few years now whilst everyone catches up, our devs should stop making graphics and focus on making games. It is also pretty unlikely (seeing as we've unlocked nowhere near the full potential of the 360 or PS3) that consoles will do any overtaking, so it could be a safe and profitable (lower graphics costs) solution.

Just give me a new Jedi Knight game and ill be happykozzy1234

haha. yep.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]Just give me a new Jedi Knight game and ill be happygtarmanrob

haha. yep.

Third'ed.