Star Wars The Old Republic, looking very much like a cartoon...

The videos I am watching of the gameplay make me feel like I am watching the cartoon network. Galaxies graphics look better to me from what I've seen. I play mmo's and love the Star Wars universe, but I just cannot get excited for this game for some reason.

the art is so far one of the best in MMO's... Ok and before someone throw the "age of conan" card at me... I would rather have TOR graphic design then plastic design where it look like people have a stick up their... well you know...

I don't mind seriously. If you look at the scale of the game you can imagine what flawless experience would we get if it had Crysis-like graphics.

MMO's need to stand out from others so that art style looks good to me.

The art in the game looks awesome to me.

The art style will help the game to look good after several years of aging. SAGE_OF_FIRE

Animations are rough too.

Opinions vary of course, I have no problem with that. I just can't get past it looking like a cartoon to me. I admit I tend to enjoy more realistic settings personally, such as Conan as someone brought up.

I don't really mind, I couldn't care less about the graphics, since the main focus of SWTOR is story.

Cartoony is the way to go for a game that is supposed to last for 5+ years. Galaxies looks terrible, it has not aged well at all, whereas WoW can still look quite good. Its a simple fact that realistic graphics age faster than a cartoony artstyle.

the art is so far one of the best in MMO's... Ok and before someone throw the "age of conan" card at me... I would rather have TOR graphic design then plastic design where it look like people have a stick up their... well you know...

KalDurenik

Ha -

Here come the Bioware fanatics, making excuses for a company that seriously needs to get their act together, or just go away.

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Literally thousands of fans of this corporation, (on various message boards), were calling Dragon Age "amazing", before any screenshots or gameplay details were even known.
After the game was released, the mantra of "amazing" was still being chanted, while flaws like muddy textures were dismissed with phrases like - "Bioware wanted to make it with muddy textures - it was a brilliant design choice"

Now we have people saying that the bad graphics of The Old Republic - are "stylized", and will "future proof" the game.

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This is ridiculous.

The art style will help the game to look good after several years of aging. Also it will probably have an easier time running on lower end pcs.SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]The art style will help the game to look good after several years of aging. Also it will probably have an easier time running on lower end pcs.General_X

The graphics style they used, would seem to run better on all systems as opposed to people expecting single player games (graphics) on an mmo.

Yeah thats the only thing that bothers me about this game. Its using the crappy "clone wars era" art style from the awful animated movie and cartoon series.

Also the graphics are meh at best, which is sad considering this game doesn't even come out for another year or more. It looks outdated now, imagine when it comes out. or a few years after that, when people are playing it and they are making expansions for it.... :(

You guys can spin it how you like, I am not a graphics whore but that doesn't mean I want to play a cartoon.

Im sick of games that have the look as reliastic as possible it looks fresh and something I could look at for a long time.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]The art style will help the game to look good after several years of aging. Also it will probably have an easier time running on lower end pcs.General_X

Ha -

Here come the Bioware fanatics, making excuses for a company that seriously needs to get their act together, or just go away.

'

Literally thousands of fans of this corporation, (on various message boards), were calling Dragon Age "amazing", before any screenshots or gameplay details were even known.
After the game was released, the mantra of "amazing" was still being chanted, while flaws like muddy textures were dismissed with phrases like - "Bioware wanted to make it with muddy textures - it was a brilliant design choice"

Now we have people saying that the bad graphics of The Old Republic - are "stylized", and will "future proof" the game.

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This is ridiculous.

Born_Lucky

The game looks really really stiff. They really need to get their animations in order.

The videos I am watching of the gameplay make me feel like I am watching the cartoon network. Galaxies graphics look better to me from what I've seen. I play mmo's and love the Star Wars universe, but I just cannot get excited for this game for some reason.

vfibsux

and add to that, the lack of gameplay - if you want too feel like a jedi play jedi academy, at least there your allowed to jump and aim for yourself :roll:

It's going to be so much found being a "super athlete" who can't even jump, forget wall running etc, standing there in a fight watching your light saber penetrate some npc in locked combat and watch the script go **miss**

Not

You guys can spin it how you like, I am not a graphics whore but that doesn't mean I want to play a cartoon.

vfibsux

Good for you? never played KotOR before i take it? Always has been on the cartoony side, either get over it or dont play it, i doubt anyone cares.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

The videos I am watching of the gameplay make me feel like I am watching the cartoon network. Galaxies graphics look better to me from what I've seen. I play mmo's and love the Star Wars universe, but I just cannot get excited for this game for some reason.

Kaelken

and add to that, the lack of gameplay - if you want too feel like a jedi play jedi academy, at least there your allowed to jump and aim for yourself :roll:

It's going to be so much found being a "super athlete" who can't even jump, forget wall running etc, standing there in a fight watching your light saber penetrate some npc in locked combat and watch the script go **miss**

Not

Thats funny, worked just fine in KotOR+KotOR 2.

[QUOTE="Kaelken"]

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

The videos I am watching of the gameplay make me feel like I am watching the cartoon network. Galaxies graphics look better to me from what I've seen. I play mmo's and love the Star Wars universe, but I just cannot get excited for this game for some reason.

warmaster670

and add to that, the lack of gameplay - if you want too feel like a jedi play jedi academy, at least there your allowed to jump and aim for yourself :roll:

It's going to be so much found being a "super athlete" who can't even jump, forget wall running etc, standing there in a fight watching your light saber penetrate some npc in locked combat and watch the script go **miss**

Not

Thats funny, worked just fine in KotOR+KotOR 2.

LOL

first of all, kotor never "worked fine" - check this forum for help threads if you have any doubt

Second, I know people played those games, like you have people living off McD food - doesn't necessarily make it a good call now does it

Like I said, it's rpg, it will fail just like mxo, sto and swg did before it, for the simple reason you don't feel like a powerful fighter when your locked into 2D point and click gameplay, no wall jumping... no jumping at all, no aiming, no taunting

Really, all there is, is your usual run of the mill press t for next target, if your level is high enough you win if not you lose. There isn't actually any gameplay involved

I'm actually really liking the art direction they've taken with the game.

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"]

the art is so far one of the best in MMO's... Ok and before someone throw the "age of conan" card at me... I would rather have TOR graphic design then plastic design where it look like people have a stick up their... well you know...

Roland123_basic

Meh you dont have to agree. Some things look good in the game yes... But most of the things look horrible (plastic). Kinda like the old plastic rocks people used when they made movies in the old days...

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="Kaelken"]

and add to that, the lack of gameplay - if you want too feel like a jedi play jedi academy, at least there your allowed to jump and aim for yourself :roll:

It's going to be so much found being a "super athlete" who can't even jump, forget wall running etc, standing there in a fight watching your light saber penetrate some npc in locked combat and watch the script go **miss**

Not

Kaelken

Thats funny, worked just fine in KotOR+KotOR 2.

LOL

first of all, kotor never "worked fine" - check this forum for help threads if you have any doubt

Second, I know people played those games, like you have people living off McD food - doesn't necessarily make it a good call now does it

Like I said, it's rpg, it will fail just like mxo, sto and swg did before it, for the simple reason you don't feel like a powerful fighter when your locked into 2D point and click gameplay, no wall jumping... no jumping at all, no aiming, no taunting

Really, all there is, is your usual run of the mill press t for next target, if your level is high enough you win if not you lose. There isn't actually any gameplay involved

SWG failed because SOE rolled out the NGE. Game was doing perfectly fine before that obomination caused about 90% of the playerbase to desert the game within a month or two. How does making an RPG mean it will fail. There is gameplay involved. Sounds to me like you are after more of an action game than what the RPGs typically involve.

No i don't care about the art style looks fine to me. Could they have made it better looking. Sure but that takes more away from content in the game which is what i'd rather was the main focus.

How does making an RPG mean it will fail.ocid1

Because RPG is 2D automation, where as being say a jedi or say neo in the matrix is the exact opposite. Action is the contrast to RPG

Think about it, as a kid playing a game? What is a game?

Let me answer that, playing is toying with creativity, now automation is the counter for dynanism so RPG is sort of anti-gaming.

[quote="ocid1"]How does making an RPG mean it will fail.Kaelken

Because RPG is 2D automation, where as being say a jedi or say neo in the matrix is the exact opposite. Action is the contrast to RPG

Think about it, as a kid playing a game? What is a game?

Let me answer that, playing is toying with creativity, now automation is the counter for dynanism so RPG is sort of anti-gaming.

Let me break it down.

With automation, the outcome is stactic - the model used in RPGs; often refered to as "2D point and click"

With twitch, the outcome is dynamic - the model that should have been standard in all games, so far only 1 RPG had dynamic gameplay, can you guess which one?

And what does that mean? First of all, the result in RPGs is always predictable; you even have colors to tell what the script will roll for you.

Second, the automation is integrated into "combat", press t for next target and go put on some coffee

Summed up as anti-gaming. Because your not gaming - the script is overwriting everything and locking it down to an anti-creative singular process

I know this is ace pioneering stuff you can't find anywhere else on the net so I am not going to hate too much on you

There is a reason why RPG's controll like 99.9999% of the MMO market :P...

What? You dont belive me? Go out and try a "action" mmo... What is the first thing you will notice =)?

There is a reason why RPG's controll like 99.9999% of the MMO market :P...

What? You dont belive me? Go out and try a "action" mmo... What is the first thing you will notice =)?

KalDurenik

Fast food chains own 100 per cent of the american food production, take a look at america

Terrific logic there slick

Let me break it down.

With automation, the outcome is stactic - the model used in RPGs; often refered to as "2D point and click"

With twitch, the outcome is dynamic - the model that should have been standard in all games, so far only 1 RPG had dynamic gameplay, can you guess which one?

And what does that mean? First of all, the result in RPGs is always predictable; you even have colors to tell what the script will roll for you.

Second, the automation is integrated into "combat", press t for next target and go put on some coffee

Summed up as anti-gaming. Because your not gaming - the script is overwriting everything and locking it down to an anti-creative singular process

I know this is ace pioneering stuff you can't find anywhere else on the net so I am not going to hate too much on you

Kaelken

The dynamic elements of RPGs such as clothing and class or appearance are usually great, this is true.

And yes almost every action game out there has zero character customization - why not let your player decide what he wants to look like on the battlfield? In that aspect RPGs are far superior.

And your point is certainly valid, some people do want a static game not at all based on personal skill or perception. 11 million playing wow right now

That being said, I'd never play a game that doesn't let me control my character.

Vampire masquerade: bloodlines and ES: Oblivion had twitch gameplay mixed with RPG

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="Kaelken"]

and add to that, the lack of gameplay - if you want too feel like a jedi play jedi academy, at least there your allowed to jump and aim for yourself :roll:

It's going to be so much found being a "super athlete" who can't even jump, forget wall running etc, standing there in a fight watching your light saber penetrate some npc in locked combat and watch the script go **miss**

Not

Kaelken

Thats funny, worked just fine in KotOR+KotOR 2.

LOL

first of all, kotor never "worked fine" - check this forum for help threads if you have any doubt

Second, I know people played those games, like you have people living off McD food - doesn't necessarily make it a good call now does it

Like I said, it's rpg, it will fail just like mxo, sto and swg did before it, for the simple reason you don't feel like a powerful fighter when your locked into 2D point and click gameplay, no wall jumping... no jumping at all, no aiming, no taunting

Really, all there is, is your usual run of the mill press t for next target, if your level is high enough you win if not you lose. There isn't actually any gameplay involved

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"]

There is a reason why RPG's controll like 99.9999% of the MMO market :P...

What? You dont belive me? Go out and try a "action" mmo... What is the first thing you will notice =)?

Kaelken

Fast food chains own 100 per cent of the american food production, take a look at america

Terrific logic there slick

Wow Completly ignoring the other part of the post...

Why do you think there are hardly any action games on the MMO market?

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"]

the art is so far one of the best in MMO's... Ok and before someone throw the "age of conan" card at me... I would rather have TOR graphic design then plastic design where it look like people have a stick up their... well you know...

Roland123_basic

I really think this could be a good competitor to WoW. I will definately play it, the game looks awsome.