Star Wars: The Old republic = The WoW Killer?

Who here thinks that biowares MMO is gonna destory WoW once its launched? I mean its gonna revolutionize the mmorpg genre, if the devs can follow through with the stuff they have promised. Full voicer overs, a story driven world, dialouge opitions, Just these 3 things have never been done well in a MMO, if bioware can follow through WoW might have some serious competion on its hands.

What's exactly so revolutionary about it? Looks like more of the same to me. AoC had full voice overs and dialogue options. A story driven world will either A) Not Work or B) Be too insignificant of a feature to mean anything.Bumzur

this is more chances to kill or dethrone WOW, than any other MMO before.

What's exactly so revolutionary about it? Looks like more of the same to me. AoC had full voice overs and dialogue options. A story driven world will either A) Not Work or B) Be too insignificant of a feature to mean anything.Bumzur

There's certainly space for a new fantastic mmo which is TOR. The biggest strengths are the Stars Wars setting and Bioware development. With that in mind, the level of depth is going to be astounding. Fans of Kotor will know why TOR is greatly anticipated being Kotor 1 and 2 were incredible RPGs. However. WoW will always have a dedicated fan base, granted it's a miraculous game with Blizzard dedicating support. I'm eagerly awaiting the launch of TOR to engage as The Sith and apprehend the story/atmosphere.

I donno if I would want it to be, becuase if it is Bioware would probably become as bad as Blizzard is now.

I donno if I would want it to be, becuase if it is Bioware would probably become as bad as Blizzard is now.

htekemerald

[QUOTE="Bumzur"]What's exactly so revolutionary about it? Looks like more of the same to me. AoC had full voice overs and dialogue options. A story driven world will either A) Not Work or B) Be too insignificant of a feature to mean anything.big_orc

I don't think more voiceover work is the first thing that comes to people's minds when they wonder how an MMO can be better than WoW. It is far too early to tell how good it will be. I don't think anything will ever be a "WoW killer". It is far too big of a market to be threatened by anything. I see these types of, is [insert mmo name] gonna be the WoW killer threads alot. I saw the same thing for AoC, Warhammer, etc.... It always ends the same way with WoW growing even larger at the same pace as before.

Nonetheless, Bioware is a company that I have alot of respect for. You can be sure that they know what they are doing. I have no doubt this game will be awsome coming out of a company like Bioware. This game probably won't be a WoW killer, but I am sure I'm gonna have some fun with it.

[QUOTE="big_orc"][QUOTE="Bumzur"]What's exactly so revolutionary about it? Looks like more of the same to me. AoC had full voice overs and dialogue options. A story driven world will either A) Not Work or B) Be too insignificant of a feature to mean anything.DJ419

I don't think more voiceover work is the first thing that comes to people's minds when they wonder how an MMO can be better than WoW. It is far too early to tell how good it will be. I don't think anything will ever be a "WoW killer". It is far too big of a market to be threatened by anything. I see these types of, is [insert mmo name] gonna be the WoW killer threads alot. I saw the same thing for AoC, Warhammer, etc.... It always ends the same way with WoW growing even larger at the same pace as before.

Nonetheless, Bioware is a company that I have alot of respect for. You can be sure that they know what they are doing. I have no doubt this game will be awsome coming out of a company like Bioware. This game probably won't be a WoW killer, but I am sure I'm gonna have some fun with it.

Star Wars:TOR will probably be the better game but I don't see it becoming more popular.

WOW's interface is too cluttered. I also dislike the art direction - it's way too cartoony for my tastes.

this is more chances to kill or dethrone WOW, than any other MMO before.

SionPT

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

I donno if I would want it to be, becuase if it is Bioware would probably become as bad as Blizzard is now.

zero9167

It's generally ~3 years from announce when they release a game, putting D3 on schedule for 2011.. as for the MMO it hasn't even got a name yet so I think you can put that a bit further into the distant future.

He is probably referring to the fact that Blizzard has to 'dumb down' their games in order to market them to a larger audience. An example would be the proposed removal of manual stat adjustment from Diablo 2 to Diablo 3. Whether or not this is true, and it's effect on gameplay is obvious a point of debate for many people.

I however don't particularly think Bioware has done anything praise-worthy ever since the original Neverwinter Nights.. Mass Effect was a clusterfail of auto-aim console nonsense, and the stop-go combat system of KOTOR bugged the hell out of me. (imo of course, no offense if you enjoyed those games, I just thought they were nothing special).. so as for them becoming as bad as Blizzard? I'd say people have been glossed over by a few mediocre titles that for some reason got great reviews, but in order to ever become as bad as Blizzard, they'd first need to be as good as Blizzard.

What's exactly so revolutionary about it? Looks like more of the same to me. AoC had full voice overs and dialogue options. A story driven world will either A) Not Work or B) Be too insignificant of a feature to mean anything.Bumzur

I am really looking forward to TOR for the following reasons:
1. It's made by bioware, who have made nothing but fantastic RPGs, and in every interview i see with them, they really know what makes a game great.
2. They are the masters of star wars games, in my opinion, the KOTOR games were PHENOMENAL. 3. In the gamespot stage interview, they mentioned how mmo's today bring you dull gameplay with Grinding, and they are getting away from the grind aspect 4. The introduction of having personality/story line altering aspects of gameplay into the MMO genre is awesome

Do i think it will be a WoW killer? No. Only time will kill wow, or maybe WoW 2. But that doesn't mean this game won't be awesome, it doesn't have to kill wow to be better than wow. My final point is, I would be shocked to see Bioware screw this up..they are a great company with tons of innovative ideas, i only see greatness for this game. They have said that they will not release an unfinished game, like every mmo in history has, the strong release of TOR will blow the mmo communities mind.

While The Old Republic will undoubtedly be a great game there are things I am certain of. One of them is the fact that a game this ambitious will have insane problems at launch. There are horror stories about people waiting hours to log on when WoW was new, I think the situation with TOR will be even worse. Another thing I am certain of that this game will not be a "WoW Killer" and the reason is very simple. Yes Star Wars is a franchise with many fans BUT just becouse the fans love the movies does not automatically mean that they play the Star Wars games. WoW on the other hand is a game that is based on a long running and highly acclaimed game franchise and that is why it is so popular. The lore was popular before WoW. Every gamer new what Warcraft was so the awarness about the mmo at time of launch was much higher.

ALLof the self-proclaimed wow killers have failed - if anything, wow is more successful than ever before. it's not like i'm a fan, but it's a fact no one can deny. i think it'd be wise to keep your hope low on this one.

No.

No one game is going to kill WoW. The only way to 'kill' WoW is to whittle its numbers down. No one game can do that. It will take a lot of games.

Some of the upcoming MMOs are: Star Trek Online, Stargate Worlds, APB, Warhammer 40K, Guild Wars 2, Firefly, The Old Republic, World of Darkness, Fallout and Blizzard's own new MMO (even though they will try to incentivise people subbing to WoW and the new game, they will still compete).

Those are just the huge name MMOs I can think of, I'm sure there are plenty more, big and small name. Then we have to consider other MMO genres. The MMORTS and the MMOFPS are going to take off sooner or later. They have to. And sure, they're different genres, but they're all MMOs. How many people are going to want to have three or four or more subscriptions to pay every month? Which game(s) to subscribe to will become a much less obvious choice.

WoW's population is still growing, but its market position is shrinking with every big name MMO that comes out. Games like WAR and Conan may not have had a huge impact, but names like Guid Wars 2 and Fallout carry much more weight. And all of the above names together (plus all the ones I've forgotten)... well, WoW's position as monopoliser of the MMO is limited to perhaps five years. There will be too many huge names for the MMO market to support any kind of monopoly by then. WoW may still be the market leader, but it will be by a matter of 5-10% market share rather than the 60% or whatever it is now.

no, to many people don't like Star Wars, or are to loyal to Wow, or don't play MMOs.

The next MMO to truly lead the community will be the one that stops worrying about WoW and worries about being the best damn game it can be on its own right. Could this one be it? Sure, could be. Pretty early to tell though. It certainly has my attention though and I intend to keep following it closely.

It doesn't have to kill wow.LTZH

This.

I think Bioware is putting the RPG back in MMORPG.

[QUOTE="LTZH"]It doesn't have to kill wow.shakmaster13

This.

I think Bioware is putting the RPG back in MMORPG.