Starcraft 2 overheating and gamestyle questions.

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#1 trijity
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All right, first off, Starcraft 2 runs my 285 around 75C and up, I attempted this but it seemed to fail, even in multiplayer I believe my card was getting sweaty http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/28/blizzard-confirms-starcraft-ii-overheating-bug.aspx

Also, now on about keybinds, anyone know of a way I can change them atall? Is it...."legal" by any standards to change them? Also, is camera panning with keyboard a no-no? Arrow keys suck to pan with but using "WASD" would be a slaughter of keybinds down the drain for all there is to do. (RTS noob here)

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#2 KLONE360
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That bug is old. Just like the Mic bug. I dont think so. Just learn the binds for each race. And dont waste time with the arrows or paning. Just use the mouse and click on the radar spot you want to be if its to far away. Just learn the game, thats all.
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#3 Crimsader
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Yep, I got the overheating problem as well...
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#4 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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I set my fan speed to 60%. Works like a charm.
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#5 JigglyWiggly_
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How can you blame a game for taking advantage of your gpu? That's like blaming the linpack benchmark because it makes your CPU go to extremely high temperatures, way more than prime95... If nothing is crashing, or there are no visual artifacts, who cares if it's running a tad hot? As long as the GPU is below 100c, it's not in danger.
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#6 trijity
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... If nothing is crashing, or there are no visual artifacts, who cares if it's running a tad hot? As long as the GPU is below 100c, it's not in danger.JigglyWiggly_

....it DID crash last night and I say it was because of overheating.....what now! ;P Also, anymore hints on keybinding? I mean, some of the keybinds are fine but the ones such as B and such on the right side of the keyboard, gonna need a spider hand. Personally not to sure why they just wouldn't let a person customize it.

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#7 -Unreal-
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Software isnt the cause of an overheating component.

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#8 trijity
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Software isnt the cause of an overheating component.

-Unreal-

It's a known bug...

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#9 FrostMTG
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]... If nothing is crashing, or there are no visual artifacts, who cares if it's running a tad hot? As long as the GPU is below 100c, it's not in danger.trijity

....it DID crash last night and I say it was because of overheating.....what now! ;P Also, anymore hints on keybinding? I mean, some of the keybinds are fine but the ones such as B and such on the right side of the keyboard, gonna need a spider hand. Personally not to sure why they just wouldn't let a person customize it.

Your GPU has to be like, 100+ degrees to crash a game.

Put vertical sync on, it'll help a bit.

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#10 Makari
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Software isnt the cause of an overheating component.

trijity

It's a known bug...

The component is supposed to be designed to take ANYTHING software can throw at it. If it's crashing due to overheating, then the cooling (i.e. hardware) is not up to snuff. It's not the software's fault that the hardware can't take the stress it is supposed to be able to. :) Just think of a faulty console that crashes when set to 1080p, then blaming it on the game that tries to run 1080p.
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#11 SamiRDuran
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75c is perfectly normal for your gpu. btw there is no bug. sc2 takes full advantage of your gpu but people with cases with poor ventilation experience problems.
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#12 FrostMTG
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[QUOTE="trijity"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Software isnt the cause of an overheating component.

Makari

It's a known bug...

The component is supposed to be designed to take ANYTHING software can throw at it. If it's crashing due to overheating, then the cooling (i.e. hardware) is not up to snuff. It's not the software's fault that the hardware can't take the stress it is supposed to be able to. :) Just think of a faulty console that crashes when set to 1080p, then blaming it on the game that tries to run 1080p.

Exactly this.

trijity, it's not really a "bug" it's just that your GPU renders the hell out of the scene, especially in between missions in joryray's bar and the hyperion, and boom, really high frames at the cost of high temperatures since the GPU is using everything it has to render it, shooting the load to 100% GPU usage.

You solve it by putting Vertical Sync on, so the GPU usage drops down to 40-50 percent.

My radeon 5850 overclocked ran 85-ish degrees on sc2, when I put V sync on, it was about 70-75.

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#13 -Unreal-
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Software isnt the cause of an overheating component.

trijity

It's a known bug...

No, there might be a bug in which the game code is using more reasources than it should due to a coder error, but software doesn't cause hardware to overheat. If your system overheats, you should look at the hardware, not the software you're running on it.
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#14 Johnny_Rock
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[QUOTE="trijity"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Software isnt the cause of an overheating component.

-Unreal-

It's a known bug...

No, there might be a bug in which the game code is using more reasources than it should due to a coder error, but software doesn't cause hardware to overheat. If your system overheats, you should look at the hardware, not the software you're running on it.

Agreed. I can play this for hours at high settings and resolutions on my 880GT with no overheating issues.

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#15 jedikevin2
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I wrote this on the PC and Mac Games Starcraft 2 thread weeks ago.

If anyone wants WASD to control Camera movements then here is a Script in a small .exe that will convert the Arrow Keys to WASD that I made yesterday. (converts arrow keys to WASD since arrow keys can move the camera)

The Keys have been remapped such that:

  • Up arrow is now W
  • Left arrow is now A
  • Down arrow is now S
  • Right arrow is now D
  • the - (hyphen) pauses the script so you can use whatever natural WASD keys you have or to type a message to someone

I just uploaded the file to mediafire and the link is Here

If you do not wish to download it, you can make it yourself:

  1. Go and download Autohotkey
  • Next Open a notepad document up and type in:

Gui +LastFound
#IfWinExist
w::up
a::left
s::down
d::right
~-::Suspend
+~-::Suspend
Return

  • Go to File/Save As
  • Choose whatever File Name you desire but end it in .ahk
  • Save As type must be set to All files
  • You now have a script to change arrow keys to WASD keys.
  • To make it into a .exe file simply go to programfiles/autohotkey/convert .ahk to .exe and convert your file.

This should work for ANY application and not just this game.

The game is only utilizing what your computer is giving it. The "bug" is just pushing your GPU. If you have correct cooling then you should have no problem regardless. My GTS 250 only goes to 51C but I use custom made fan controls with rivatuner. The bug stated was that people were getting heat issues in main menu as the menu runs real time rendering in the background and overtime your gpu could overheat if it does not have the required cooling.

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#16 kazakauskas
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Look how much FPS is rendered , if its very much , you can set limit to like 60 . just google "starcraft 2 overheating bug"

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#17 KLONE360
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Jesus. This is ridiculous. There is a bug in SC2 that makes you GPU render many many frames while simply in the menu. IT DOES make the GPU heat up. Now plz end the denial that its the game. Even blizzard said it was the game. THe glitch is only in the menu. You know the one when you first log in.

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#18 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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Jesus. This is ridiculous. There is a bug in SC2 that makes you GPU render many many frames while simply in the menu. IT DOES make the GPU heat up. Now plz end the denial that its the game. Even blizzard said it was the game.KLONE360

Thank you!

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#19 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KLONE360"]Jesus. This is ridiculous. There is a bug in SC2 that makes you GPU render many many frames while simply in the menu. IT DOES make the GPU heat up. Now plz end the denial that its the game. Even blizzard said it was the game.Sheppard212

Thank you!

Yea - and that's exclusively at the main menu. Which doesn't really have any effect once in game, now does it? The bug will only overheat people who idle at the main menu. And isn't it fixed by now anyways?
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#20 KLONE360
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[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

[QUOTE="KLONE360"]Jesus. This is ridiculous. There is a bug in SC2 that makes you GPU render many many frames while simply in the menu. IT DOES make the GPU heat up. Now plz end the denial that its the game. Even blizzard said it was the game.KHAndAnime

Thank you!

Yea - and that's exclusively at the main menu. Which doesn't really have any effect once in game, now does it? The bug will only overheat people who idle at the main menu. And isn't it fixed by now anyways?

The bug hits you as soon as you hit the menu. And everytime you hit the menu thats basically whenever your not in game. It heats up your GPU before you even start playing so that once in game your GPU is already toasty. Thats great isnt it? So now that your GPU is already heated up it dousnt take much more before your overheating. Make sense? Nope, Blizzard only realeased 2 or 3 patches thus far. That fixed nothing pretty much. THe mic glitch is still glitching and this still exists.
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#21 JigglyWiggly_
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Who cares if your gpu is running 100%, if your gpu can't run furmark 24/7, there is something wrong... and furmark is way way more stressfull than SC2. Stop blaming the game, fix your gpu, clean it, change the TIM, put a manual fan config in MSI after burner... Stop blaming the game.
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#22 KLONE360
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But. It is the game.
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#23 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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Only when it overheats on SCII is when it's a PEBCAK, right? Supposedly vertical sync fixes the problem, but a fix on behalf of the devs would be nice.

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#24 -Unreal-
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The point we're making is that some of you are implying it's Blizzard's fault that your hardware can't run at 100% without overheating.
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#25 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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I'm sure the guy's ahrdware can run fine a 100%, but a big int he programming coaxes out a few too many frames and cooks the card.

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#26 KHAndAnime
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I'm sure the guy's ahrdware can run fine a 100%, but a big int he programming coaxes out a few too many frames and cooks the card.

Sheppard212
You're saying Starcraft 2 makes the guy's card run at 150% or something? :roll:
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#27 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

Thank you!

KLONE360

Yea - and that's exclusively at the main menu. Which doesn't really have any effect once in game, now does it? The bug will only overheat people who idle at the main menu. And isn't it fixed by now anyways?

The bug hits you as soon as you hit the menu. And everytime you hit the menu thats basically whenever your not in game. It heats up your GPU before you even start playing so that once in game your GPU is already toasty.

Your components will only crash from overheating while they're being overheated. Not from being heated 10 minutes ago. It's simply not how it works. If you run Prime95 and then play Crysis for example, it's not going to crash your PC.

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#28 Mazoch
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I'm sure the guy's ahrdware can run fine a 100%, but a big int he programming coaxes out a few too many frames and cooks the card.

Sheppard212

What the 'bug' does is use all the GPU resources available. So if the guys hardware can run at 100% without overheating then SC2 is not going to cause issues.

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#29 Elann2008
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Doesn't enabling V-Sync lock the frame rate anyways? :P
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#30 MK-Professor
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All right, first off, Starcraft 2 runs my 285 around 75C and up, I attempted this but it seemed to fail, even in multiplayer I believe my card was getting sweaty

trijity

75C is hot? It is perfectly normal for your card. My GTX295 OC is around 85-90C in games and up to 95C in games like crysis, metro2033.

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#31 KLONE360
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[QUOTE="KLONE360"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Yea - and that's exclusively at the main menu. Which doesn't really have any effect once in game, now does it? The bug will only overheat people who idle at the main menu. And isn't it fixed by now anyways?KHAndAnime

The bug hits you as soon as you hit the menu. And everytime you hit the menu thats basically whenever your not in game. It heats up your GPU before you even start playing so that once in game your GPU is already toasty.

Your components will only crash from overheating while they're being overheated. Not from being heated 10 minutes ago. It's simply not how it works. If you run Prime95 and then play Crysis for example, it's not going to crash your PC.

Oh sure its not like while your ingame your GPU could be rendering anything. And the heat that was built up thanks to the glitch. Thats gone once you start playing right?
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#32 HFkami
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How can you blame a game for taking advantage of your gpu? That's like blaming the linpack benchmark because it makes your CPU go to extremely high temperatures, way more than prime95... If nothing is crashing, or there are no visual artifacts, who cares if it's running a tad hot? As long as the GPU is below 100c, it's not in danger.JigglyWiggly_

its a failure blizzard officially mentioned it go read the news youre wrong

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#33 Mazoch
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]

[QUOTE="KLONE360"] The bug hits you as soon as you hit the menu. And everytime you hit the menu thats basically whenever your not in game. It heats up your GPU before you even start playing so that once in game your GPU is already toasty. KLONE360

Your components will only crash from overheating while they're being overheated. Not from being heated 10 minutes ago. It's simply not how it works. If you run Prime95 and then play Crysis for example, it's not going to crash your PC.

Oh sure its not like while your ingame your GPU could be rendering anything. And the heat that was built up thanks to the glitch. Thats gone once you start playing right?

Yes, it's gone in the sense that once the game starts, the load on your GPU will drop, thus the temperature will drop. The GPU is not going to remain at the peak temperature it reached at 100% after the load is reduced.

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#34 -Unreal-
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Facepalms all round in here. People seem to be commenting on things they clearly don't understand. At least there's a few people who do.

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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]... If nothing is crashing, or there are no visual artifacts, who cares if it's running a tad hot? As long as the GPU is below 100c, it's not in danger.trijity

....it DID crash last night and I say it was because of overheating.....what now! ;P Also, anymore hints on keybinding? I mean, some of the keybinds are fine but the ones such as B and such on the right side of the keyboard, gonna need a spider hand. Personally not to sure why they just wouldn't let a person customize it.

If it was to hot then you would get artifacts!
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#36 HFkami
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i think its fixed anyways now the menu is by me stuck at 60 frames although i have 120 Hz monitor

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#37 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]How can you blame a game for taking advantage of your gpu? That's like blaming the linpack benchmark because it makes your CPU go to extremely high temperatures, way more than prime95... If nothing is crashing, or there are no visual artifacts, who cares if it's running a tad hot? As long as the GPU is below 100c, it's not in danger.HFkami

its a failure blizzard officially mentioned it go read the news youre wrong

How so? An application can't make your GPU work harder than something like furmark, and even if there was an alogithim, it won't be in SC2. If your GPU can't handle FURMARK SOMETHING IS WRONG. Your gpu should handle ANY load.