Stardocks new game Fallen Enchatress, gets first review!

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#1 kozzy1234
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Stardock yesterday released Fallen Enchantress, alot of talented people came in to help work on this (people from Galactic Civ, Dev from the civ series and some wonderful modders). The game is pretty good from the 6 hour Ive played so far, its a modern MOM and having a godo amount of fun (The AI is improved, perforamnce very improved, gameplay improved, ai improved and the list goes on). Also has the best mod tools for a strategy game ive seen in awhile.

http://www.gamingogre.com/review/elemental-fallen-enchantress-review/

Elemental: Fallen Enchantress Review

Positives: High replayability, extremely customizable experience, well-executed turn-based strategy game.

Negatives: Somewhat dated graphics.

Quotes:

"The takeaway? If you like strategy games, youll like Fallen Enchantress. If you like RPG games and fantasy settings, youll like Fallen Enchantress. If you like the kind of game where you say to yourself, Ill just play this for fifteen minutes or so, and then all of a sudden its 4:00 in the morning, then you can add Fallen Enchantress to the list of games that seem to warp time. And if you like games that are designed by people who care about giving gamers a great experience, then you should pick up Elemental: Fallen Enchantress and then work your way through the rest of the Stardock catalog.


"Elemental: Fallen Enchantress aims to vindicate Stardock and does a pretty fine job of it. The game is great fun for anyone who is a fan of either turn-based 4X strategy games or for fans of the type of fantasy world that are typically solely the realm of role-playing games. Gameplay is intuitive, adaptive, highly customizable and most importantly fun."

Score: 8.7/10


Seems like alot of people who had issues with stardocks last game are realy enjoying this one alot more.

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#2 Baranga
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Public service announcement: Brad Wardell is a sexist pig and a liar. Also a racist.

I don't really mind all that but I thought some people do care in whose pockets their money ends up.

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Public service announcement: Brad Wardell is a sexist pig and a liar. Also a racist.

I don't really mind all that but I thought some people do care in whose pockets their money ends up.

Baranga

This has nothing to do with the game at all... or the review I posted..

Should we post things like this for all gaem devs that have had a brush with the law? Give me a break.

This is a gaming forum for discussion about games, not a law forum, I suggest you post "so and so is a sexist pig" in the offtopic discussion.

I dont know Brad personally but Fallen Enchantress is a ton of fun and this thread was for talk about this game, not his personal life.

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#4 Baranga
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Hence my disclaimer:P

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#5 kozzy1234
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Should I stop listening to the music of Jimmi Hendrix, Neil Young, 2Pac and Charles Mingus because they had some trouble with the law over the years?


There personal life does not effect me enjoying there music. Same goes for game devs or movie directors, if you make good quality music, movies or games that I enjoy then thats all I care about. I am not god, who the f*** am I to judge someone?

Stardock makes good games (most of the time), Hendrix made great music, I could care less if they both had run ins with the law. I enjoy listening to Jimi's music and Galactic Civilization2/Fallen Enchantress from Stardock.

If you want to talk or have a discussion about certain people's life outside of there games, music, movies then fine, but that shoudl go in the off topic discussion, not in a thread that is about a review for an upcomign 4x strategy game.

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#6 DanielDust
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Somebody is being way too dramatic over that "small" mention...
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#8 Baranga
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OK. Here's how all that relates to this game:

- Elemental was a disaster and destroyed Stardock's reputation

- Stardock tries to blame a former employee for everything

- She was sued by the company, accused that she abandoned it and destroyed PR documents

- Somehow that (alleged) act is responsible for the game being sh*t, because for some reason everybody rushed to replace the PR content instead of working on the game's final month

- BUT! It turns out she sued Brad Wardell first for sexual harassement

- And looking through my first link, it's pretty damn obvious that:

1. She never did anything wrong

2. Elemental was a piece of sh*t by design, not because they couldn't polish it

3. How the hell can I trust this shady company to deliver a good game when they can't accept their faults, try to shift blame and sue a former employee in retaliation to her exposing Wardell's behaviour?

The second link is also relevant. Perhaps I'm not comfortable playing a game based on what's inherently racist, randian fiction?

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#9 Darocy
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OK. Here's how all that relates to this game:

- Elemental was a disaster and destroyed Stardock's reputation

- Stardock tries to blame a former employee for everything

- She was sued by the company, accused that she abandoned it and destroyed PR documents

- Somehow that (alleged) act is responsible for the game being sh*t, because for some reason everybody rushed to replace the PR content instead of working on the game's final month

- BUT! It turns out she sued Brad Wardell first for sexual harassement

- And looking through my first link, it's pretty damn obvious that:

1. She never did anything wrong

2. Elemental was a piece of sh*t by design, not because they couldn't polish it

3. How the hell can I trust this shady company to deliver a good game when they can't accept their faults, try to shift blame and sue a former employee in retaliation to her exposing Wardell's behaviour?

The second link is also relevant. Perhaps I'm not comfortable playing a game based on what's inherently racist, randian fiction?

Baranga

So whats you're point - you act like I care who designed a game or the company that produces it.

I don't - you must have me mistaken for someone who actually gives a crap.

Now if this was EA or GFWL then thats when I would care because it directly effects the game.

As far as Elemental is concerned FE is free for me.

Ask EA or GFWL if their games are given away when thay make a mistake.

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#10 DanielDust
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Yeah EA actually gives games for free and not only when they make mistakes with their system. Only hipsters say EA is evil or some bs like that, developers under them making bad games is another thing, EA isn't who develops games in the name of DICE or Bioware or another studio that hasn't made a good game for years.

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#11 Baranga
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So whats you're point - you act like I care who designed a game or the company that produces it.

I don't - you must have me mistaken for someone who actually gives a crap.

Now if this was EA or GFWL then thats when I would care because it directly effects the game.

As far as Elemental is concerned FE is free for me.

Ask EA or GFWL if their games are given away when thay make a mistake.

Darocy

Actually I never knew you existed before. The pleasure is all yours.

You say if EA made it you would care because it affects the game. But I show you Stardock are just as sh*tty. So show me the logic - why do you care about EA's incompetence and malevolence but not about Stardock's?

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#12 Darocy
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[QUOTE="Darocy"]

So whats you're point - you act like I care who designed a game or the company that produces it.

I don't - you must have me mistaken for someone who actually gives a crap.

Now if this was EA or GFWL then thats when I would care because it directly effects the game.

As far as Elemental is concerned FE is free for me.

Ask EA or GFWL if their games are given away when thay make a mistake.

Baranga

Actually I never knew you existed before. The pleasure is all yours.

You say if EA made it you would care because it affects the game. But I show you Stardock are just as sh*tty. So show me the logic - why do you care about EA's incompetence and malevolence but not about Stardock's?

Because FE was in response to Elemental being so bad.

EA I know doesn't develop their games and there is the disconect they don't care if it's any good or not or if its broke on release

If you complain on the forums they ban your account which also bans you're access to all EA games at their whim.

If you continue to express you discontent enough they will permaban your account and access to all EA games not just the POS you are complaining about.

This is why I will not buy their stuff no matter how good it is or isn't.

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Fallen Enchantress is surprisingly good. I don't care if the creative director personally insulted every female alive, denounced happiness and registered as a republican. It's still a good game.

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Public service announcement: Brad Wardell is a sexist pig and a liar. Also a racist.

I don't really mind all that but I thought some people do care in whose pockets their money ends up.

Baranga
Are you saying that's supposed to not encourage us to get the game?
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Game Informer also just gave it 8.25/10 for those interested at all

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/elemental_fallen_enchantress/b/pc/archive/2012/10/25/elemental-fallen-enchantress-review.aspx

"Its the closest anyone has come to producing the game Ive been dreaming about since I was an adolescent with visions of wizards carving fantastical empires out of a hostile world."

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i think i'm gonna buy this one. I never got Elemental after reading the bad reviews. But this one looks good! Thanks for the heads up Kozzy.

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#17 Rickylee
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Fallen Enchantress is surprisingly good. I don't care if the creative director personally insulted every female alive, denounced happiness and registered as a republican. It's still a good game.

xLittlekillx

Now that's funny.:lol: The part about registrating as a rebublican. I would be one of those conservative americans labled a sexist, homophobe, hater of all people. Labels are fun but not to reliable if you looking for the truth cause I'm none of these things. Thanks for the laughs though.

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3. How the hell can I trust this shady company to deliver a good game when they can't accept their faults, try to shift blame and sue a former employee in retaliation to her exposing Wardell's behaviour?

Baranga

They have delivered a good game if the reviews are any indication. We are not discussing a game still in development. It's out.

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#19 SKaREO
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Public service announcement: Brad Wardell is a sexist pig and a liar. Also a racist.

I don't really mind all that but I thought some people do care in whose pockets their money ends up.

Baranga
Actually I do care a ton about who gets my money, and after looking at those two links, I'm definitely going to buy this game. Brad Wardell is my hero. Maybe I can trade it on TF2 Outpost for some hats. Thanks for the heads up!
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Public service announcement: Brad Wardell is a sexist pig and a liar. Also a racist.

I don't really mind all that but I thought some people do care in whose pockets their money ends up.

SKaREO
Actually I do care a ton about who gets my money, and after looking at those two links, I'm definitely going to buy this game. Brad Wardell is my hero. Maybe I can trade it on TF2 Outpost for some hats. Thanks for the heads up!

If you think about it, he's pretty manly.
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#21 kozzy1234
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i think i'm gonna buy this one. I never got Elemental after reading the bad reviews. But this one looks good! Thanks for the heads up Kozzy.

robertlie

No problem man, I know there are some strategy fans on this forum so thought I would post :)

Been having a blast so far, have about 20 hours put into it so far. Mainly been doing the sandbox mode and spending some time with the mod tools, mod tools easy enough for even kozzy to make some stuff with :P

I really hope this gets as much mod support from the community like stardocks other game Galactic Civlization2 had ;)

This is the game I was hoping Warlock, Civ5 and Elemental would be (as far as these turn based 4x type strategy games go), AKA a real solid follow up to MOM (:

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Awesome, I was expecting this game to suck. Looks like I have another TBS to get down the road.

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will get this one and King's Bounty: Warriors of the North...after I finish the new Xcom...once or twice:)

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Hey Kozzy, where did you find your copy of FE? I bought WoM at release, so I should be getting this and the next one for free. But it was my understanding that we were going to be given it through Gamestop/Impulse. But when I check my account, it's not there. Is there something else I have to do?
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will get this one and King's Bounty: Warriors of the North...after I finish the new Xcom...once or twice:)

teardropmina

Yeah I want to get that new Kings Bounty sometime soon to myself ;)

I realy enjoyed X-com but its nto got hte best replayability after you beat it once or twice.

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Hey Kozzy, where did you find your copy of FE? I bought WoM at release, so I should be getting this and the next one for free. But it was my understanding that we were going to be given it through Gamestop/Impulse. But when I check my account, it's not there. Is there something else I have to do?LongZhiZi

Stardock sold Impulse to gamestop.

All of your stardock games are at http://www.stardock.com/games/ (for example it shows Galactic Civilization2, Sins Of A Solar Empire and Fallen Enchantress for me under my games on that link)

Just login with your email/password and you can download it there or you can use stardocks new program (its in beta).

I just downloaded it from that link above off my account and installed :)

Only people who preordered Elemental and registered/bought it before the end of 2010 get Fallen Enchantress for free. Everyone else who bought it later on gets a 10 or 25% off coupon I heard.

Im really enjoying Fallen Enchantress so I think ill be buying a steam copy sometime in the future to just to support :)

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[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]Hey Kozzy, where did you find your copy of FE? I bought WoM at release, so I should be getting this and the next one for free. But it was my understanding that we were going to be given it through Gamestop/Impulse. But when I check my account, it's not there. Is there something else I have to do?kozzy1234

Stardock sold Impulse to gamestop.

All of your stardock games are at http://www.stardock.com/games/ (for example it shows Galactic Civilization2, Sins Of A Solar Empire and Fallen Enchantress for me under my games on that link)

Just login with your email/password and you can download it there or you can use stardocks new program (its in beta).

I just downloaded it from that link above off my account and installed :)

Only people who preordered Elemental and registered/bought it before the end of 2010 get Fallen Enchantress for free. Everyone else who bought it later on gets a 10 or 25% off coupon I heard.

Im really enjoying Fallen Enchantress so I think ill be buying a steam copy sometime in the future to just to support :)

Yeah, I know they sold it. I was under the assumption that they still intended to give it away on that service. I'll grab it from Stardock's site, then.
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Here are the review scores so far for those who care or are interested in the game.


Space Sector = 8.7/10

http://www.spacesector.com/blog/2012/10/elemental-fallen-enchantress-review/

Gamespy: 3.5/5

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/elemental-fallen-enchantress/1226525p1.html


Gaming Irresponsibly = 7.7/10

http://gamingirresponsibly.com/review-fallen-enchantress-pc

Game Informer = 8.25/10

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/elemental_fallen_enchantress/b/pc/archive/2012/10/25/elemental-fallen-enchantress-review.aspx

Cheatmasters = No score, but very positive review

http://www.cheatmasters.com/blog/2012/10/27/elemental-fallen-enchantress-review/

Universal Gaming Reviews: 10/10

http://www.universalgamingreviews.com/archives/1131

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#29 Gladestone1
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Its a really polished game..They did a great job on the remake..Its not often a company spends its own money to make up for a mistake..Ive been with 3 companies in my life..Every company goes through sexual harrasment has nothing to do with this game..My company itself has guys tossed off routes because of this issue..See nothing that has any thing to do with this game at all..Its just his way to say some thing negative..If he bought the game 2 years ago..He should download fallen ench for free an see for himself the improvements in this game..Was tottaly shocked how much it improved...Its a very impressive game atm..Although there are many games out this month..Fallen ench is a must for stradegy gamers..

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I love this game. Even if I didn't receive it free I would have paid the $40.
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#31 LongZhiZi
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I love this game. Even if I didn't receive it free I would have paid the $40.Gammit10
Really? That good? I thought WoM had some good ideas that just didn't quite fit together. I guess I should get downloading this one now.
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#32 Mazoch
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Got my free copy today. So far it looks like they've cleaned up most of the issues from the original elemental. The UI is still a little clunky, information sometimes poorly presented and and a crash to desktop during my 1-2 hours of playing. It looks like a big improvement over the first game, just don't expect the game to be as polished or accessible as Civilization. Overall it looks like a pretty decent game and you have to appreciate that Star Dock is attempting to make amends by giving the game away for free if you pre-ordered Elemental.