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Require some quality PC games for my 2 GB RAM PC... The DX-Diag configuration of my PC is as follows :- SYSTEM INFO. ------------------- Time of this report: 8/29/2011, 09:08:42 Machine name: PC Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3, v.5512 (2600.xpsp.080413-2111) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: BIOSTAR Group System Model: G31D-M7 BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2038MB RAM Page File: 832MB used, 3101MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: None DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode DISPLAY DEVICES. ------------------------- Card name: Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Chip type: Intel(R) GMA 3100 DAC type: Internal Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C2&SUBSYS_31031565&REV_10 Display Memory: 256.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: igxprd32.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4926 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 2/15/2008 14:12:06, 57344 bytes Also, kindly suggest regarding any upgrades that may be advisable, but keeping in mind that they are cheap.... Can't spend too much r8 now!!! Thx in advance.......
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Require some quality PC games for my 2 GB RAM PC... The DX-Diag configuration of my PC is as follows :- SYSTEM INFO. ------------------- Time of this report: 8/29/2011, 09:08:42 Machine name: PC Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3, v.5512 (2600.xpsp.080413-2111) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: BIOSTAR Group System Model: G31D-M7 BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2038MB RAM Page File: 832MB used, 3101MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: None DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode DISPLAY DEVICES. ------------------------- Card name: Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Chip type: Intel(R) GMA 3100 DAC type: Internal Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C2&SUBSYS_31031565&REV_10 Display Memory: 256.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: igxprd32.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4926 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 2/15/2008 14:12:06, 57344 bytes Also, kindly suggest regarding any upgrades that may be advisable, but keeping in mind that they are cheap.... Can't spend too much r8 now!!! Thx in advance.......saswatsprakash

first go out to a pc ahrdware store and see the dudes about your pc ask what slots u have and write them down.. then come back here

ill recommend you a gpu and then u can play all the source engine, f2p and oldskool game su could ever want such as oblivion and rainbow 6 vegas. without that change ur without a paddle floating sh!ts creek

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#3 SteelAttack
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Nothing modern, unfortunately. Anything on GoG's catalogue would run fine, though. If you want to try out more recent titles, you definitely need a GPU upgrade. It wouldn't hurt to know which games/genres you're interested in trying out.
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RAM doesn't mean much for games. The GPU is by far the most important component, and unfortunately for you you don't even have a discrete video card. Instead you have an IGC which is completely unsuited for gaming. In fact, your entire computer is far too weak to play anything released since 2002 (and even then you won't be getting very good performance). A single core CPU, only 2GB of RAM, and no video card. You really need to buy a new computer. If you want to play PC games you'll also need to keep in mind that the computers you find at Best Buy or other retail stores are unlikely to be fit for gaming.
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Throw that thing out the window and buy a computer. I have no patience for PCs like that. I suppose it's not indecent if you're the only one using it. But if you have a friend over and he's on it for whatever reason... well that's just being rude. It's like lending someone your dirty underwear.
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Throw that thing out the window and buy a computer. I have no patience for PCs like that. I suppose it's not indecent if you're the only one using it. But if you have a friend over and he's on it for whatever reason... well that's just being rude. It's like lending someone your dirty underwear.jedinat

np pc is useless even the ones with single cores..

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where's the GPU? ur pc is almost worthless for heavy games unless u don't have GPU component and that too a good one.

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*looks at specs*

MY EYES!!!!

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I think games like Bastion or World of Goo should run fine.

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Well, that's alright. But I don't wanna buy a whole new system right away. Well but kindly clarify whether you mean a Global Processing Unit or a Graphics Processing Unit by GPU. More likely I think its the Graphics Card option. If so, mention which one(s) I could buy, that would be quite effective but also cheap.... Also, do I need to change my motherboard????
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Try BASTION.... should run ok and it's great FUN !!!
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Try BASTION.... should run ok and it's great FUN !!!FelipeInside
Thanx for the suggestion Felip. I'll try it.
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Try BASTION.... should run ok and it's great FUN !!!saswatsprakash
Thanx for the suggestion Felip. I'll try it.

There's a DEMO on STEAM in case you want to try before you buy,.,,
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Something in the early 2000s like red alert 2,battlfield 1942, Deus EX,quake 3, unreal tournament Throw in a cheap $5-$10 used videocard and you can probaly play stuff from more like 2002-2004 like halo, warcraft III, GTA 3/vice city, max payne 1/2, UT 2004.......ect

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Something in the early 2000s like red alert 2,battlfield 1942, Deus EX,quake 3, unreal tournament Throw in a cheap $5-$10 used videocard and you can probaly play stuff from more like 2002-2004 like halo, warcraft III, GTA 3/vice city, max payne 1/2, UT 2004.......ect

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Well, I can already play all the games listed above (including the latter ones w/o any video cards...) The thing is, I had bought HP Compaq Pressario Desktop as an unit. It worked fine until last year, when I had to change the motherboard. I was away, and my younger brother just gave the CPU to a repairman who probably just put in a cheap model of the same. Well, earlier I was able to Devil May Cry 3, GTA - SA etc. but now they're not working. I never had a graphics card installed.... There was probably some inbuilt GPU... Now, do I need to buy a graphics card for the above to work??? If so, plz state about the same... Also, which configuration would support games like GTA IV, DMC IV etc.??????
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Do you like rpgs ?

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I don't think you should/could update that, just buy a new PC instead. Doesn't matter pricewise. Everything in that PC is obsolete. Sorry. :(
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:businrounds Yes, indeed, I like RPGs... Any recommendations?? :D3ATH Well, its only to be usable for at most 5-6 more months after which I'm going oversees. So, just as a time-pass. Don't wanna waste money there uselessly....
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[QUOTE="jedinat"]Throw that thing out the window and buy a computer. I have no patience for PCs like that. I suppose it's not indecent if you're the only one using it. But if you have a friend over and he's on it for whatever reason... well that's just being rude. It's like lending someone your dirty underwear.ionusX

np pc is useless even the ones with single cores..

Agreed. I can always find a use for them. Heck, use it for a home server or something.
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:businrounds Yes, indeed, I like RPGs... Any recommendations?? :D3ATH Well, its only to be usable for at most 5-6 more months after which I'm going oversees. So, just as a time-pass. Don't wanna waste money there uselessly....saswatsprakash

i recommend guildwars just go out find what sockets it has buy a nice 30-40 dolalr videocard of the appropriate slot and go play guildwars on high XD

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[QUOTE="saswatsprakash"]:businrounds Yes, indeed, I like RPGs... Any recommendations?? :D3ATH Well, its only to be usable for at most 5-6 more months after which I'm going oversees. So, just as a time-pass. Don't wanna waste money there uselessly....ionusX

i recommend guildwars just go out find what sockets it has buy a nice 30-40 dolalr videocard of the appropriate slot and go play guildwars on high XD

Any suggestion what Vid Card I should buy??? Also state its specifications please. Would a 512 mb do???? (Pixel Shader = 3)
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="saswatsprakash"]:businrounds Yes, indeed, I like RPGs... Any recommendations?? :D3ATH Well, its only to be usable for at most 5-6 more months after which I'm going oversees. So, just as a time-pass. Don't wanna waste money there uselessly....saswatsprakash

i recommend guildwars just go out find what sockets it has buy a nice 30-40 dolalr videocard of the appropriate slot and go play guildwars on high XD

Any suggestion what Vid Card I should buy??? Also state its specifications please. Would a 512 mb do???? (Pixel Shader = 3)

ah umm basically anything recent i was playing guildwars just nicely on a MUCH weaker setup than yours based on what you have now on medium

i was playing it on an intel pentium 4 2.6ghz /w 1gb ram and a radeon 9800xtx ( a card that was new when idk half life 2 was released )

so i imagine you can find better XD

ill list some examples based on socket

9400gt (pci-ex1) :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500164

8400gs (pci):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187041

hd 4350 (pci-e x16):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127544

6200 (agpx4/x8 )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130654

now to paint a picture here for you if you have one of those sockets omitting agpx8 you should be able to play games you want such as say rainbow 6 vegas 1 (and most other unreal engine games (sanctum, singularity, ut3, batman arkham city, duke nukem: forever, etc.)), TES IV: oblivion and half life 2 (and other source engine games) on high. if you use the agp card the best you could probably do is games like painkiller and doom 3.

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ah umm basically anything recent i was playing guildwars just nicely on a MUCH weaker setup than yours based on what you have now on medium

i was playing it on an intel pentium 4 2.6ghz /w 1gb ram and a radeon 9800xtx ( a card that was new when idk half life 2 was released )

so i imagine you can find better XD

ill list some examples based on socket

9400gt (pci-ex1) :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500164

8400gs (pci):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187041

hd 4350 (pci-e x16):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127544

6200 (agpx4/x8 )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130654

now to paint a picture here for you if you have one of those sockets omitting agpx8 you should be able to play games you want such as say rainbow 6 vegas 1 (and most other unreal engine games (sanctum, singularity, ut3, batman arkham city, duke nukem: forever, etc.)), TES IV: oblivion and half life 2 (and other source engine games) on high. if you use the agp card the best you could probably do is games like painkiller and doom 3.

ionusX
Hey bro thanx for the info.... I'll take your word for it, and buy a listed GP from the market... Do I also need to buy a Sound Card???
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

ah umm basically anything recent i was playing guildwars just nicely on a MUCH weaker setup than yours based on what you have now on medium

i was playing it on an intel pentium 4 2.6ghz /w 1gb ram and a radeon 9800xtx ( a card that was new when idk half life 2 was released )

so i imagine you can find better XD

ill list some examples based on socket

9400gt (pci-ex1) :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500164

8400gs (pci):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187041

hd 4350 (pci-e x16):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127544

6200 (agpx4/x8 )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130654

now to paint a picture here for you if you have one of those sockets omitting agpx8 you should be able to play games you want such as say rainbow 6 vegas 1 (and most other unreal engine games (sanctum, singularity, ut3, batman arkham city, duke nukem: forever, etc.)), TES IV: oblivion and half life 2 (and other source engine games) on high. if you use the agp card the best you could probably do is games like painkiller and doom 3.

saswatsprakash

Hey bro thanx for the info.... I'll take your word for it, and buy a listed GP from the market... Do I also need to buy a Sound Card???

sound cards are only good for 4 reasons and 2 are sort of connected..

1) you plan on editing audio - this is because it allows greater control of how you here your playbacks and the quality of the audio improves

2) you have a nice expensive speaker system - this goes ahnd in hand with 1 if you dont have no.2 then no.1 becomes very difficult. having a sound system to pair with a soud card noticeably improves any audio you here.

3) your onboard audio has failed - this happens from time to time where a motherboards audio chipset will jsut die. but the rest of the board will continue functioning. i had this happen at school once and another time here at home and i couldnt get it to work again so i had to go fetch a sound card to overide it

4) you are a professional grade gamer - i mean this seriously if you are trying to go pro having one in your machine becomes a bit of half justified necessity. you see when your audio runs off the onboard its also required to use whats called directsound and direct audio. these are encoding softwares that are on your cpu. their fairly light weight but in the world of pro gaming the more efficient your system is the better. if you have a soundcard these two functions are taken over by the sound card entirely thus freeing up your cpu workload a little bit. however these two pieces of software are fairly lightweight(as stated) and the offloaded burden sometimes results in 1-0.5fps more than you would normally have but not always.

so id say unless you meet one of the four requirements skip sound cards. id also avoid any network cards promising "better gaming preformance" thats what someone who adbusts the "half truth claim" which is basically that its only true under these conditions or this specific way of using it or only in specific cases which is a topic fit for another discussion entirely

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diablo 2 :D
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:businrounds Yes, indeed, I like RPGs... Any recommendations?? :D3ATH Well, its only to be usable for at most 5-6 more months after which I'm going oversees. So, just as a time-pass. Don't wanna waste money there uselessly....saswatsprakash

Don't be bothered about not having a new pc when it comes to rpgs especially, all the new ones are pretty much dumbed down action games with rpg elements sprinkled in anyway.

Fallout 1/2

Baldurs Gate series

Planescape:Torment

Vampire: Bloodlines

Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura

Ultima 7: The Black Gate and Serpent Isle

Temple of Elemental Evil (get the latest circle of 8 modpack)

Icewind Dale 1/2

X-Com: Unemy Unknown and Terror From the Deep

Jagged Alliance 2

D&D Gold Box Games

Knights of the Chalice http://www.heroicfantasygames.com/

Wizardry 7 and 8

Gothic 2

KotoR 2

Betrayal at Krondor

If you like non mindless/tactical shooters, check out Operation Flashpoint:Cold War Crisis and Resistance, Ghost Recon 1, Rainbow 6 Rogue Spear/Raven Shield, Swat 4.

You also have some great adventure games like - Secret of Monkey Island games, Blade Runner, Grim Fandango, Indina Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Sanitarium, Day of the Tentacle, The Longest Journey, Beneath a Steel Sky, Quest for Glory series, Gabriel Knight series...

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sound cards are only good for 4 reasons and 2 are sort of connected..

1) you plan on editing audio - this is because it allows greater control of how you here your playbacks and the quality of the audio improves

2) you have a nice expensive speaker system - this goes ahnd in hand with 1 if you dont have no.2 then no.1 becomes very difficult. having a sound system to pair with a soud card noticeably improves any audio you here.

3) your onboard audio has failed - this happens from time to time where a motherboards audio chipset will jsut die. but the rest of the board will continue functioning. i had this happen at school once and another time here at home and i couldnt get it to work again so i had to go fetch a sound card to overide it

4) you are a professional grade gamer - i mean this seriously if you are trying to go pro having one in your machine becomes a bit of half justified necessity. you see when your audio runs off the onboard its also required to use whats called directsound and direct audio. these are encoding softwares that are on your cpu. their fairly light weight but in the world of pro gaming the more efficient your system is the better. if you have a soundcard these two functions are taken over by the sound card entirely thus freeing up your cpu workload a little bit. however these two pieces of software are fairly lightweight(as stated) and the offloaded burden sometimes results in 1-0.5fps more than you would normally have but not always.

so id say unless you meet one of the four requirements skip sound cards. id also avoid any network cards promising "better gaming preformance" thats what someone who adbusts the "half truth claim" which is basically that its only true under these conditions or this specific way of using it or only in specific cases which is a topic fit for another discussion entirely

ionusX
Got it. No, I am not trying for any pro-ism in Game-ism. Just for kicks, and time pass. And yeah, I was also thinking about the N/W card. Thanks for the info. All in all, my monitor is great, all other components (incl. Joystick, KB, Mouse etc.) are also upgraded. The only trouble was the motherboard. What would be a good gaming motherboard according to you??? And are there any motherboard-graphics card combo? Or should I just go for separate ones????

Don't be bothered about not having a new pc when it comes to rpgs especially, all the new ones are pretty much dumbed down action games with rpg elements sprinkled in anyway.

Fallout 1/2

Baldurs Gate series

Planescape:Torment

Vampire: Bloodlines

Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura

Ultima 7: The Black Gate and Serpent Isle

Temple of Elemental Evil (get the latest circle of 8 modpack)

Icewind Dale 1/2

X-Com: Unemy Unknown and Terror From the Deep

Jagged Alliance 2

D&D Gold Box Games

Knights of the Chalice http://www.heroicfantasygames.com/

Wizardry 7 and 8

Gothic 2

KotoR 2

Betrayal at Krondor

If you like non mindless/tactical shooters, check out Operation Flashpoint:Cold War Crisis and Resistance, Ghost Recon 1, Rainbow 6 Rogue Spear/Raven Shield, Swat 4.

You also have some great adventure games like - Secret of Monkey Island games, Blade Runner, Grim Fandango, Indina Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Sanitarium, Day of the Tentacle, The Longest Journey, Beneath a Steel Sky, Quest for Glory series, Gabriel Knight series...

bussinrounds
Hmm, that's a good list. Why, that's a great list. Thanks bro. Yeah, I generally like almost all sort of games, albeit, they must have a decent story line. And ofc, RPGs nearly always have great story lines, so my favorite.... Though, do the games you listed, namely Black Gate & Serpent Isle, Temple of Elemental Evil etc. contain blood and gore??? If yes, can you state a few more??
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#28 ionusX
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not atm..

motherboard graphics cards at best barely stack up to low end laptops.. the best atm is the hd 4290 and its barely fit to play games like fear 1 on (in its defense it plays it really well)

so seperate video is ideal.

your system isnt bad i was using a similar system with a 2.8ghz pentium D (inferior to your pentium 4 3.0ghz) and 2.5gb ram and an hd 2400pro (about equal to the 8400gs)

i was playing oblivion and rainbow 6: vegas on medium SMOOTHLY, dawn of war I on high, half life 2 and most other source games on high (tf2 on medium), i was playing doom 3 on high, and guildwars on high all with above 30 fps 1440 x 900. she was a good pc :)

i actually retired that computer to a life of folding@home (basically it idles and crunches numbers for the sake of science). i fold for hexus.net's team

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

sound cards are only good for 4 reasons and 2 are sort of connected..

1) you plan on editing audio - this is because it allows greater control of how you here your playbacks and the quality of the audio improves

2) you have a nice expensive speaker system - this goes ahnd in hand with 1 if you dont have no.2 then no.1 becomes very difficult. having a sound system to pair with a soud card noticeably improves any audio you here.

3) your onboard audio has failed - this happens from time to time where a motherboards audio chipset will jsut die. but the rest of the board will continue functioning. i had this happen at school once and another time here at home and i couldnt get it to work again so i had to go fetch a sound card to overide it

4) you are a professional grade gamer - i mean this seriously if you are trying to go pro having one in your machine becomes a bit of half justified necessity. you see when your audio runs off the onboard its also required to use whats called directsound and direct audio. these are encoding softwares that are on your cpu. their fairly light weight but in the world of pro gaming the more efficient your system is the better. if you have a soundcard these two functions are taken over by the sound card entirely thus freeing up your cpu workload a little bit. however these two pieces of software are fairly lightweight(as stated) and the offloaded burden sometimes results in 1-0.5fps more than you would normally have but not always.

so id say unless you meet one of the four requirements skip sound cards. id also avoid any network cards promising "better gaming preformance" thats what someone who adbusts the "half truth claim" which is basically that its only true under these conditions or this specific way of using it or only in specific cases which is a topic fit for another discussion entirely

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Got it. No, I am not trying for any pro-ism in Game-ism. Just for kicks, and time pass. And yeah, I was also thinking about the N/W card. Thanks for the info. All in all, my monitor is great, all other components (incl. Joystick, KB, Mouse etc.) are also upgraded. The only trouble was the motherboard. What would be a good gaming motherboard according to you??? And are there any motherboard-graphics card combo? Or should I just go for separate ones????

Don't be bothered about not having a new pc when it comes to rpgs especially, all the new ones are pretty much dumbed down action games with rpg elements sprinkled in anyway.

Fallout 1/2

Baldurs Gate series

Planescape:Torment

Vampire: Bloodlines

Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura

Ultima 7: The Black Gate and Serpent Isle

Temple of Elemental Evil (get the latest circle of 8 modpack)

Icewind Dale 1/2

X-Com: Unemy Unknown and Terror From the Deep

Jagged Alliance 2

D&D Gold Box Games

Knights of the Chalice http://www.heroicfantasygames.com/

Wizardry 7 and 8

Gothic 2

KotoR 2

Betrayal at Krondor

If you like non mindless/tactical shooters, check out Operation Flashpoint:Cold War Crisis and Resistance, Ghost Recon 1, Rainbow 6 Rogue Spear/Raven Shield, Swat 4.

You also have some great adventure games like - Secret of Monkey Island games, Blade Runner, Grim Fandango, Indina Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Sanitarium, Day of the Tentacle, The Longest Journey, Beneath a Steel Sky, Quest for Glory series, Gabriel Knight series...

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Hmm, that's a good list. Why, that's a great list. Thanks bro. Yeah, I generally like almost all sort of games, albeit, they must have a decent story line. And ofc, RPGs nearly always have great story lines, so my favorite.... Though, do the games you listed, namely Black Gate & Serpent Isle, Temple of Elemental Evil etc. contain blood and gore??? If yes, can you state a few more??

ToEE has blood proportional to your damage, and there are death animations. But the main strength of that game is the great d&d 3.5 turn based tactical combat. And good rpgs don't have to be heavily story driven to be good, and this is one of those kinds. They are dungeon crawls, like Gary Gygax's original pen and paper d&d modules, say. But the combat must be engaging, if that's the case. And that's where ToEE shines. (other games like this are the Wizardry, D&D Gold Box games, Knights of the Chalice, JA2, X-Com)

Ultima 7 does have animated violence/gore also but is at the other end of the spectrum, when it comes to rpgs. It has a good story/dialog and a great interactive world, but with this game as opposed to ToEE, there is a lesser focus on combat, which makes exploration and conversation the main draw of the game. As far as the story goes, i'll quote a friend who has played alot more of the series than i , "I enjoyed playing U7, but I also enjoyed playing 4, 5 and 6 beforehand. I'm not sure what coming straight into U7 "cold turkey" would be like, but I enjoyed it because I was already familiar with the setting and plenty of back-story. Perhaps the buy-in to find out what continues to happen in Brittania is part of what makes the game so enjoyable -- I already know my way around (more or less), I know a lot of the characters, I know how magic/combat/items work... so it's easier to get into the story."

If you are really into a good story/dialog/writing, first and foremost, i would def put Planescape:Torment on the top of your list ! And Fallout 1 and 2 sounds like they would be right up your alley too. (GREAT GAMES) They have an interesting world (if your into post apocalyptic) good choice and consequences, alot of blood and gore, good writing/dialog/stories and turn based combat. (no full party control though, but you do get followers)

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I don't think you should/could update that, just buy a new PC instead. Doesn't matter pricewise. Everything in that PC is obsolete. Sorry. :(-D3ATH-

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[QUOTE="-D3ATH-"]I don't think you should/could update that, just buy a new PC instead. Doesn't matter pricewise. Everything in that PC is obsolete. Sorry. :(oajlu

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we all start small.. pretending any different is just lying.

and really which would you rather spend 50 bucks to play older but sitll popular and good games.. or 500 on a new machine for the same purpose ???

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#32 gmaster456
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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

[QUOTE="-D3ATH-"]I don't think you should/could update that, just buy a new PC instead. Doesn't matter pricewise. Everything in that PC is obsolete. Sorry. :(ionusX

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we all start small.. pretending any different is just lying.

and really which would you rather spend 50 bucks to play older but sitll popular and good games.. or 500 on a new machine for the same purpose ???

You make an interesting point.
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Don't listen to the superficial gamers. All they care about is shiny graphics and newest flavor of the month. RPGs aren't what they used to be, and that's a fact. (unless your big on gay elf sex, that is)

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#34 ionusX
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Don't listen to the superficial gamers. All they care about is shiny graphics and newest flavor of the month. RPGs aren't what they used to be, and that's a fact. (unless your big on gay elf sex, that is)

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chantalise begs to differ.

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#35 bussinrounds
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[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]

Don't listen to the superficial gamers. All they care about is shiny graphics and newest flavor of the month. RPGs aren't what they used to be, and that's a fact. (unless your big on gay elf sex, that is)

ionusX

chantalise begs to differ.

I don't know jack about jrpgs nor do i care to. But your right, there are a few execptions, but they're indie games now. All the mainstream stuff is all action games with rpg elements sprinkled in now.

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#36 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]

Don't listen to the superficial gamers. All they care about is shiny graphics and newest flavor of the month. RPGs aren't what they used to be, and that's a fact. (unless your big on gay elf sex, that is)

bussinrounds

chantalise begs to differ.

I don't know jack about jrpgs nor do i care to. But your right, there are a few execptions, but they're indie games now. All the mainstream stuff is all action games with rpg elements sprinkled in now.

indeed i agree

id love to get a more traditional rpg these days.. itd make for a good change of pace.