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#1 shinra41
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does anyone know where i can find one? i have looked at ebay, but the prices are way too expensive. also amazon doesnt have any reasonable prices either. suggestions?
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#2 POJO_MOFO
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you used tobe able to download it from underdogs, dont know if you still can
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#3 sprint_car_fan2
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System Shock 2 is such a fun game. I had a friend who had it and let me borrow it.
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#4 pinneyapple
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you used tobe able to download it from underdogs, dont know if you still canPOJO_MOFO


I think you still can.
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#5 sprint_car_fan2
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is it free???? Can someone post a link??? I don't have the game on my PC anymore, I also gave him the CD back
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#6 icefox47
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I'd suggest you "look around." I'm positive you can find it, but a link would be quite against tos.
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#7 Harpy170
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[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]you used tobe able to download it from underdogs, dont know if you still canpinneyapple


I think you still can.

SHODAN looks unfavorably on what was once here.  Its there, just let get around the ads and scroll down, theres a bittorrent link and a direct download link (One download at a time!)
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#8 monco59
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Is it the full game, in its entire splendor and glory, or a chopped down version or something?
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#9 SystemShock2
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you probably just need to get lucky and find one in a store, or else you get it off ebay for the high price. I was lucky enough to be looking through ebgames's used pc game section a long time ago and i bought it for 3 dollars, and my friend got it about 2 years ago new in an ebgames. it's all about luck
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#10 Harpy170
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Is it the full game, in its entire splendor and glory, or a chopped down version or something?monco59
I own a copy so I just went to find it, but the site says its the Full Cd-Rom version...

SHODAN looks unfavorably on what was once here.
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#11 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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I am sure its the full game. That site hasn't been known to put up BS and make people fall for it.
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#12 Harpy170
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I am sure its the full game. That site hasn't been known to put up BS and make people fall for it.the_ChEeSe_mAn2
Amen to that, UnderDogs has been a great site to get your fix on old games, its great for reminiscing.
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#13 190586385885857957282413308806
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I found if you check Amazon.com enough you can get it for cheap... i found it for about $8
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#14 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="pinneyapple"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]you used tobe able to download it from underdogs, dont know if you still canHarpy170


I think you still can.

SHODAN looks unfavorably on what was once here. Its there, just let get around the ads and scroll down, theres a bittorrent link and a direct download link (One download at a time!)

The game is "freeware" or "abandonware" now, so it is no more illegal to download it than it is to download any other free program (winrar, divx players, etc).

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#15 Rusteater
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I got mine from the underdogs about 3 years ago. I still have it. Ran perfectly. Great game.
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#16 Royas
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[QUOTE="Harpy170"][QUOTE="pinneyapple"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]you used tobe able to download it from underdogs, dont know if you still canmrbojangles25



I think you still can.

SHODAN looks unfavorably on what was once here. Its there, just let get around the ads and scroll down, theres a bittorrent link and a direct download link (One download at a time!)

The game is "freeware" or "abandonware" now, so it is no more illegal to download it than it is to download any other free program (winrar, divx players, etc).



Not really true, actually. Abandonware is NOT freeware, someone owns the rights to it. It is just as illegal to distribute abandonware titles as it is a current, in the store right now title. Unless the actual holder of the IP rights explicitly says it's now public domain, it's not. I don't know if whoever owns the SS2 rights did that, or if they gave permission to distribute the game for free, or if they just don't care. I don't see on the Underdog site any indication that there is any kind of "freebie" liscence involved, so I'd have to assume it's the third state. So, providing links to the site would be against the terms here.

Always remember, the default state of any creative work is protected IP. The owner has to specifically release it to the public to change that. Abandonware is not legal, it's just not something most publishers care enough about to stop. But they could change their mind and enforce their rights at any time, copyright doesn't lose force if you don't protect it like a trademark does.
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#17 Cranler
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Who cares. The games been out of production for years. The devs and publisher are no longer making money off it. Lowest price on amazon is $39 used.

Google "download system shock 2" and the first 2 links are free downloads. Dont you think they would stop it if they were still making money off the game?

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#18 shinra41
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hey thanks guys for all the advice. i downloaded it but the game keeps crashing. and if i turn up the resolution i get an error. i may end up just buying the game after all. 
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#19 Lilac_Benjie
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hey thanks guys for all the advice. i downloaded it but the game keeps crashing. and if i turn up the resolution i get an error. i may end up just buying the game after all. shinra41


You need to install the compatibility patch.


Click here


System Shock 2 is worth the effort by the way.
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#20 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="shinra41"]hey thanks guys for all the advice. i downloaded it but the game keeps crashing. and if i turn up the resolution i get an error. i may end up just buying the game after all. Lilac_Benjie


You need to install the compatibility patch.


Click here


System Shock 2 is worth the effort by the way.

Totally, I think I might even install it right now.

Found the actual game at my local nerd shop (comics, music, Warhammer figurines, and USED GAMES!) for 8 dollars, couldnt resist picking it up.

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#21 jamesgj
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You gotta buy this game to add it to gaming collection! It's a must for PC gamer.
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Harpy170"][QUOTE="pinneyapple"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]you used tobe able to download it from underdogs, dont know if you still canRoyas



I think you still can.

SHODAN looks unfavorably on what was once here. Its there, just let get around the ads and scroll down, theres a bittorrent link and a direct download link (One download at a time!)

The game is "freeware" or "abandonware" now, so it is no more illegal to download it than it is to download any other free program (winrar, divx players, etc).



Not really true, actually. Abandonware is NOT freeware, someone owns the rights to it. It is just as illegal to distribute abandonware titles as it is a current, in the store right now title. Unless the actual holder of the IP rights explicitly says it's now public domain, it's not. I don't know if whoever owns the SS2 rights did that, or if they gave permission to distribute the game for free, or if they just don't care. I don't see on the Underdog site any indication that there is any kind of "freebie" liscence involved, so I'd have to assume it's the third state. So, providing links to the site would be against the terms here.

Always remember, the default state of any creative work is protected IP. The owner has to specifically release it to the public to change that. Abandonware is not legal, it's just not something most publishers care enough about to stop. But they could change their mind and enforce their rights at any time, copyright doesn't lose force if you don't protect it like a trademark does.

The more important question is, does EA even care?.. No they don't, the game hasn't given them revenue for years, they don't use it for promotions etc etc.. As long as you don't sell it EA honestly could care less..

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#23 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="Royas"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Harpy170"][QUOTE="pinneyapple"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]you used tobe able to download it from underdogs, dont know if you still cansSubZerOo



I think you still can.

SHODAN looks unfavorably on what was once here. Its there, just let get around the ads and scroll down, theres a bittorrent link and a direct download link (One download at a time!)

The game is "freeware" or "abandonware" now, so it is no more illegal to download it than it is to download any other free program (winrar, divx players, etc).



Not really true, actually. Abandonware is NOT freeware, someone owns the rights to it. It is just as illegal to distribute abandonware titles as it is a current, in the store right now title. Unless the actual holder of the IP rights explicitly says it's now public domain, it's not. I don't know if whoever owns the SS2 rights did that, or if they gave permission to distribute the game for free, or if they just don't care. I don't see on the Underdog site any indication that there is any kind of "freebie" liscence involved, so I'd have to assume it's the third state. So, providing links to the site would be against the terms here.

Always remember, the default state of any creative work is protected IP. The owner has to specifically release it to the public to change that. Abandonware is not legal, it's just not something most publishers care enough about to stop. But they could change their mind and enforce their rights at any time, copyright doesn't lose force if you don't protect it like a trademark does.

The more important question is, does EA even care?.. No they don't, the game hasn't given them revenue for years, they don't use it for promotions etc etc.. As long as you don't sell it EA honestly could care less..

Exactly, they dont care. Thats why its called abandonware. Technically it may be stealing, but practically I dont think any bad things will come out of it. And no, youre not a bad person if you download abandonware.

For example, I once took an abandoned couch from out front of someone's house. It was obviously going to the trash, but I need a couch and it didnt have stains on it, so I took it.

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#24 dbpanek
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Exactly, they dont care.  Thats why its called abandonware.  Technically it may be stealing, but practically I dont think any bad things will come out of it.  And no, youre not a bad person if you download abandonware.

For example, I once took an abandoned couch from out front of someone's house.  It was obviously going to the trash, but I need a couch and it didnt have stains on it, so I took it.

mrbojangles25

EA has been weird on this one.  They own it, and clearly don't ever plan on rereleasing it, but have you ever wondered why Bioshock isn't called System Shock 3?  The developers of Bioshock are the same guys that did SS2, but EA won't let them use the name.  And the couch analogy is a little flawed, because copyright laws are a lot different from property laws.

All I can say is it makes me glad I have a copy.

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#25 larkanderson
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Hey guys, I loves me my System Shock 2, but I'm gonna close this topic since it's borderline ToS violation stuff. I won't mod down anyone, but don't come complaining to me if someone else does.

EA does own the rights to this game, but just because they don't do anything with the license doesn't mean that it's abandonware. And besides, according to Wikipedia (which is always right, because I once read this in the entry for "Wikipedia" there):

The term has no legal meaning, and the name "abandonware" is something of a misnomer in that a given package may not be in the public domain . Hence a package labeled as such cannot necessarily be legally copied or distributed without the permission of the owner.Wikipedia, always true


Editing stuff that's been nested in quotes is teh sux.