TERA or GW2 for core gameplay and community?

I am going to get one of these games and I origonally believed that Guild Wars 2 would be the clear winner. So let's do some speculating.. I know that the Guild Wars 2 beta is a beta, so assuing the lag gets fixed--the game gets optimized--and other likely changes are implemented, which game looks the best for core combat mechanics and community?

I don't really care about aesthetic/story here. I care about which game will bring the best, most skill oriented PvP (and PVE) and be good for guilds and socializing?

I am going to get one of these games and I origonally believed that Guild Wars 2 would be the clear winner. So let's do some speculating.. I know that the Guild Wars 2 beta is a beta, so assuing the lag gets fixed--the game gets optimized--and other likely changes are implemented, which game looks the best for core combat mechanics and community?

I don't really care about aesthetic/story here. I care about which game will bring the best, most skill oriented PvP (and PVE) and be good for guilds and socializing?

cboyuno

GW2, tera quests are so boring I couldnt get past lvl 8.

Combat wise TERA owns guildwars 2 imo. I did feel the story in both games were lackluster and didn't care either way. However i do think GW2 will have a bigger community because there is no monthly fee.

Combat wise TERA owns guildwars 2 imo. I did feel the story in both games were lackluster and didn't care either way. However i do think GW2 will have a bigger community because there is no monthly fee.

Childeater10

gw2 will be overall the superior game and the more supported. i guarantee monthly updates and good customer care. arenanet are fair but firm and i guarantee you that tera isnt the next big thing.. its the next mmo to go micro model and get sold to PW or gamersfirst

gw2 will be overall the superior game and the more supported. i guarantee monthly updates and good customer care. arenanet are fair but firm and i guarantee you that tera isnt the next big thing.. its the next mmo to go micro model and get sold to PW or gamersfirst

ionusX

Exactly this.

GW2 is still the game to watch. People that it would be more revolutionary than it is but I thought it would be exactly what it is. An awesome mmo without the monthly fee.

gw2 will be overall the superior game and the more supported. i guarantee monthly updates and good customer care. arenanet are fair but firm and i guarantee you that tera isnt the next big thing.. its the next mmo to go micro model and get sold to PW or gamersfirst

ionusX

Tera looks like a typical Korean hentai weeaboo's fapfest. Guild Wars 2 looks like they're putting in a lot of effort to perfect something a little different.

I have only played both betas, so some things may change. I found the combat in Tera to be more initiative than guild wars 2. Tera is closer to an action game than what can be found in guild wars 2, GWs2 not being too far behind, but I think thats the only area tera has a lead over guild wars. The quests and pacing in Tera are considerable more repititive than GWs2. I found myself just runing through the beta in Tera not caring one bit about the story proceeding my actions, while GWs2 story seems to be the best story I have seen in any MMO Ive played. (havnt played SWTOR, heard good things about the story)

Guild wars 2 also feels more dificult to me as well. Fighting mobs just a few more levels than yourself will egual a quick death if you dont pay attention, or are alone. While in Tera the game feels relativly easy, my two friends and I faced the first boss together with out me having to use a single heal on the group, while in GWs2 youll find yourself fighting to stay alive in large encounters if you are only with a few members.

The only thing that tera does better is battle system and lolicons xD That aside, GW2 is much better, played both Betas, Tera actually more as I had a longer time span to play it, still, GW2 owns it pretty bad

Man... Ill tell it straight. I was Beta tester in TERA and i tried this GW2 beta weekend... GW2 is faaaaaar better experience than TERA. In fact GW2 is a unique experience i never experienced before and im playing mmorpgs since daoc. In fact i had to get so excited since WoW beta ( yeah i know im lucky with betas...Want Diablo 3 beta also ? :P ) Anyways , GW2 is entirely on another level. PVE , PVP , Classes , Personal Story , World design , Geometry , Voice acting and even its graphics are ok , not far worse than TERA. And this combat wise TERA is famous for... Not even close , beleive me. Just try both somehow , youll understand what i mean.AzatiS

Tottaly agree bro i am MMO RPG gamer since 1999 Tibia was my first MMO RPG , then i gone on Ever QUest 1 , WoW etc....

Tera looks like a typical Korean hentai weeaboo's fapfest. Guild Wars 2 looks like they're putting in a lot of effort to perfect something a little different.

-Unreal-

Tera looks like a typical Korean hentai weeaboo's fapfest.-Unreal-

I am going to get one of these games and I origonally believed that Guild Wars 2 would be the clear winner. So let's do some speculating.. I know that the Guild Wars 2 beta is a beta, so assuing the lag gets fixed--the game gets optimized--and other likely changes are implemented, which game looks the best for core combat mechanics and community?

I don't really care about aesthetic/story here. I care about which game will bring the best, most skill oriented PvP (and PVE) and be good for guilds and socializing?

cboyuno

PvP, guilds and socialising. Tera by a mile. OWPvP and guild wars make it feel like a real community and world, not just a lobby for the instances. Community metagame, politics, guild drama, hate between guilds, all the good stuff.

gw 2 since tera is a generic mmorpg for what i saw in the beta. its get a quest go killl 65461654165 mobs and come back

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Tera looks like a typical Korean hentai weeaboo's fapfest.Jebus213

lol so sad people still care about sex like its the ultimate taboo or big thing

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Tera looks like a typical Korean hentai weeaboo's fapfest.Krelian-co

lol so sad people still care about sex like its the ultimate taboo or big thing

I'm pretty sure that was a joke. Anyway I'm liking all the positivity towards gw2. Guess I'll get diablo 3 and play that until it comes out. =)

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Tera looks like a typical Korean hentai weeaboo's fapfest.Krelian-co

lol so sad people still care about sex like its the ultimate taboo or big thing

Yeah... well... in some cases it kinda is the ultimate taboo thing.

I covered TERAs combat in another thread. It's strays beyond the (current and/or non Korean) interwebs capabilities of delivering precise (as in proper collisions, taking weapon reach into account etc) action driven combat in a persistent server. I feel Guild Wars 2 strikes a nice balance between hotkey mashing and action driven combat. If anything, Tera has a focused appeal and will probably have a tighter community. GW2 is reaching out to a large audience, so expect public trolls (like Maroxad :P), of course, there are Guilds and the co-ordiative and lovely people like me :3.illmatic87

Combatwise, TERA is more dynamic, but I felt that GW2's combat flows better with better synergy with skills and overall, I prefered GW2's combat. TERA being more niche and having a monthly fee will probably result in less trolls, but regardless, you can ignore those, and focus on nice people. Besides, rotten apples will exist everywhere.

TERA has politics, graphics and menacing pandas on its side.
GW2 on the other hand does more or less everything else better

Both are good games.

GW2 is reaching out to a large audience, so expect public trolls (like Maroxad :P).illmatic87

Lawl :P

^^ please tell me you took pics of your panda lawlessx

I did. Sadly, when I copied it to a program, it was all black :(

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]^^ please tell me you took pics of your panda Maroxad

I did, sadly, when I copied it to a program, it was all black :(

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]^^ please tell me you took pics of your panda Maroxad

I did. Sadly, when I copied it to a program, it was all black :(

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]^^ please tell me you took pics of your panda BrunoBRS

I did, sadly, when I copied it to a program, it was all black :(

damn you for making this my suddenly most anicipated game out of thin air. Brb, giving my life savings to arenanet

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I did, sadly, when I copied it to a program, it was all black :(

wis3boi

damn you for making this my suddenly most anicipated game out of thin air. Brb, giving my life savings to arenanet

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]^^ please tell me you took pics of your panda SkyWard20

I did. Sadly, when I copied it to a program, it was all black :(

Yeah... I have searched for the place where screenies are stored for quite a while on my PC :( Cant find them anywhere. Thanks anyway.

I have played both beta aswell, and I have to say that Guild Wars 2 is the clear winner. It gives players a completely new and refreshing twist on the mmo genre... not go here kill 10 boars and return. I found myself getting sidetracked with all the events going on around me and it was awesome. If you guys wanna check out my guild wars 2 vids which I have one up now and many more soon, and also Tera Online footage coming soon... check out my channel and vid. Gonna be covering guild wars 2 indepth on my channel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L8TCMSgUb4

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Tera looks like a typical Korean hentai weeaboo's fapfest.Krelian-co

lol so sad people still care about sex like its the ultimate taboo or big thing

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] The art style is the only thing keeping me from even considering buying TERA.Jebus213

lol so sad people still care about sex like its the ultimate taboo or big thing

that is complete bullsh1t maybe wanna play the game before talking nonsense yes?

if you pick a light elf or dark elf (don't really remember their names) ofc you are gonna get a slim character, read the lore, and even without the lore elfs have always benn like that, but you have humans who look pretty standard and the other muscular big guys, also the small bear like ones. Basically you can choose w/e you like it so maybe you can stop talking when you have no idea what you talk about.

I didn't liked the game but for different reasons. Choise on how your character looks like is not a bad thing

for gameplay TERA > GW2 for combat TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for questing GW2 > TERA for graphics TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for community its dead even IMO for future potential TERA > GW2 IMO after seeing what is coming down the pipe for K-TERA for PVP TERA > GW2 (considering pvp in GW2 atm is horribly unbalanced) overall, i have had a much better experience with TERA that i did in any of the beta phases with GW2. I hope GW2 improves a lot between now and release though, i would like to play it considering how much i liked the original.WizardGlass

Questing GW2 beats TERA by a lot. Community for GW2 is much much better and potential? You do know TERA is being sued in the US and in some other country. And WvWvW owns anything tera has.

[QUOTE="WizardGlass"]for gameplay TERA > GW2 for combat TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for questing GW2 > TERA for graphics TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for community its dead even IMO for future potential TERA > GW2 IMO after seeing what is coming down the pipe for K-TERA for PVP TERA > GW2 (considering pvp in GW2 atm is horribly unbalanced) overall, i have had a much better experience with TERA that i did in any of the beta phases with GW2. I hope GW2 improves a lot between now and release though, i would like to play it considering how much i liked the original.Cloud567kar

Questing GW2 beats TERA by a lot. Community for GW2 is much much better and potential? You do know TERA is being sued in the US and in some other country. And WvWvW owns anything tera has.

what?

[QUOTE="WizardGlass"]for gameplay TERA > GW2 for combat TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for questing GW2 > TERA for graphics TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for community its dead even IMO for future potential TERA > GW2 IMO after seeing what is coming down the pipe for K-TERA for PVP TERA > GW2 (considering pvp in GW2 atm is horribly unbalanced) overall, i have had a much better experience with TERA that i did in any of the beta phases with GW2. I hope GW2 improves a lot between now and release though, i would like to play it considering how much i liked the original.Cloud567kar

Questing GW2 beats TERA by a lot. Community for GW2 is much much better and potential? You do know TERA is being sued in the US and in some other country. And WvWvW owns anything tera has.

clearly a fanboy.

i said questing in GW2 was better.

community in GW2 being better? rofl... ok, except for the part about it tearing itself appart right now due to the OB being disappointing at best, unplayable at worst.

what does a handful of ex NCSoft employees being sued have to do with TERAs potential? Bluehole/EnMasse are not being sued, a few of their employees are. there is a HUGE difference. You dont even know the facts.... clearly a fanboy.

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

[QUOTE="WizardGlass"]for gameplay TERA > GW2 for combat TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for questing GW2 > TERA for graphics TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for community its dead even IMO for future potential TERA > GW2 IMO after seeing what is coming down the pipe for K-TERA for PVP TERA > GW2 (considering pvp in GW2 atm is horribly unbalanced) overall, i have had a much better experience with TERA that i did in any of the beta phases with GW2. I hope GW2 improves a lot between now and release though, i would like to play it considering how much i liked the original.lawlessx

Questing GW2 beats TERA by a lot. Community for GW2 is much much better and potential? You do know TERA is being sued in the US and in some other country. And WvWvW owns anything tera has.

what?

Tera devs used to work on lineage 3 but it fell through or something. Then they left NCsoft and made their own company. They stole the tech they were useing for lineage 3 and used it for tera and are now being sued for millions.

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

[QUOTE="WizardGlass"]for gameplay TERA > GW2 for combat TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for questing GW2 > TERA for graphics TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for community its dead even IMO for future potential TERA > GW2 IMO after seeing what is coming down the pipe for K-TERA for PVP TERA > GW2 (considering pvp in GW2 atm is horribly unbalanced) overall, i have had a much better experience with TERA that i did in any of the beta phases with GW2. I hope GW2 improves a lot between now and release though, i would like to play it considering how much i liked the original.WizardGlass

Questing GW2 beats TERA by a lot. Community for GW2 is much much better and potential? You do know TERA is being sued in the US and in some other country. And WvWvW owns anything tera has.

clearly a fanboy.

i said questing in GW2 was better.

community in GW2 being better? rofl... ok, except for the part about it tearing itself appart right now due to the OB being disappointing at best, unplayable at worst.

what does a handful of ex NCSoft employees being sued have to do with TERAs potential? Bluehole/EnMasse are not being sued, a few of their employees are. there is a HUGE difference. You dont even know the facts.... clearly a fanboy.

Whats wrong with a fanboy? I dont like tera and i like GW2 so...

And Bluehole is being sued, not just a few employess.

[QUOTE="WizardGlass"]

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

Questing GW2 beats TERA by a lot. Community for GW2 is much much better and potential? You do know TERA is being sued in the US and in some other country. And WvWvW owns anything tera has.

Cloud567kar

clearly a fanboy.

i said questing in GW2 was better.

community in GW2 being better? rofl... ok, except for the part about it tearing itself appart right now due to the OB being disappointing at best, unplayable at worst.

what does a handful of ex NCSoft employees being sued have to do with TERAs potential? Bluehole/EnMasse are not being sued, a few of their employees are. there is a HUGE difference. You dont even know the facts.... clearly a fanboy.

Whats wrong with a fanboy? I dont like tera and i like GW2 so...

And Bluehole is being sued, not just a few employess.

for gameplay TERA > GW2 for combat TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for questing GW2 > TERA for graphics TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for community its dead even IMO for future potential TERA > GW2 IMO after seeing what is coming down the pipe for K-TERA for PVP TERA > GW2 (considering pvp in GW2 atm is horribly unbalanced) overall, i have had a much better experience with TERA that i did in any of the beta phases with GW2. I hope GW2 improves a lot between now and release though, i would like to play it considering how much i liked the original.WizardGlass

While I agree on battle system, I think the overall gameplay is better on GW2. It's really annoying that the mouse controlls the camera and it's even more annoying to press Alt if you want to check out stuff on screen. It might work fantastic in combat, but it works horrible for everything else

To put in graphics is just stupid, Tera released while GW2 is in a unoptimized Beta that's running on the CPU mainly, just wait for the release version, shall we? GW2 looks fantastic for an unoptimized beta :/ Also I think it depends on the graphics style you like more: If you like pink and purble, you'll love Tera

Dunno which community you call dead, whenever I log in to Tera most in the chat is from china farmers :/ Gw2 has yet to release to see how the community works out

lol @ pvp, Gw2 wins with WvW alone

future potential? Gw2 because it'll sell much, much better. More money = more new stuff

[QUOTE="WizardGlass"]for gameplay TERA > GW2 for combat TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for questing GW2 > TERA for graphics TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for community its dead even IMO for future potential TERA > GW2 IMO after seeing what is coming down the pipe for K-TERA for PVP TERA > GW2 (considering pvp in GW2 atm is horribly unbalanced) overall, i have had a much better experience with TERA that i did in any of the beta phases with GW2. I hope GW2 improves a lot between now and release though, i would like to play it considering how much i liked the original.ArchoNils2

While I agree on battle system, I think the overall gameplay is better on GW2. It's really annoying that the mouse controlls the camera and it's even more annoying to press Alt if you want to check out stuff on screen. It might work fantastic in combat, but it works horrible for everything else

To put in graphics is just stupid, Tera released while GW2 is in a unoptimized Beta that's running on the CPU mainly, just wait for the release version, shall we? GW2 looks fantastic for an unoptimized beta :/ Also I think it depends on the graphics style you like more: If you like pink and purble, you'll love Tera

Dunno which community you call dead, whenever I log in to Tera most in the chat is from china farmers :/ Gw2 has yet to release to see how the community works out

lol @ pvp, Gw2 wins with WvW alone

future potential? Gw2 because it'll sell much, much better. More money = more new stuff

So, instanced WvW>OW guild v guild? Apparently, people think that fighting strangers with other strangers is better than guild hatred and community politics and metagaming. What have MMOs come to....

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

[QUOTE="WizardGlass"]for gameplay TERA > GW2 for combat TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for questing GW2 > TERA for graphics TERA > GW2 (by a lot) for community its dead even IMO for future potential TERA > GW2 IMO after seeing what is coming down the pipe for K-TERA for PVP TERA > GW2 (considering pvp in GW2 atm is horribly unbalanced) overall, i have had a much better experience with TERA that i did in any of the beta phases with GW2. I hope GW2 improves a lot between now and release though, i would like to play it considering how much i liked the original.WizardGlass

Questing GW2 beats TERA by a lot. Community for GW2 is much much better and potential? You do know TERA is being sued in the US and in some other country. And WvWvW owns anything tera has.

clearly a fanboy.

i said questing in GW2 was better.

community in GW2 being better? rofl... ok, except for the part about it tearing itself appart right now due to the OB being disappointing at best, unplayable at worst.

what does a handful of ex NCSoft employees being sued have to do with TERAs potential? Bluehole/EnMasse are not being sued, a few of their employees are. there is a HUGE difference. You dont even know the facts.... clearly a fanboy.

You do realize that the only person who made the impression of being a fanboy here is YOU. Going all defensive like that.

Community being better, I think he was referring to ingame with people always helping and supporting eachother thanks to the game's mechanics which encourage friendliness.

As for the suing bit, maybe he didnt pay too much attention to the case.

i find it hard to believe a game that still uses that accursed trinity can have such synergy between players.BrunoBRS

A game with the trinity or a role system can still have crazy synergy between players...

Case in point, Pokemon, MOBAs and Guild Wars 1.

If a game lives and dies by the trinity, (see WoW) dont expect much synergy and proper teamwork, but in the case of Pokemon and GW1 therer is plenty of cooperation between party members in a proper team led by a proper leader. From what I heard and have seen, TERA doesnt live and die by the trinity unlike games like WoW.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i find it hard to believe a game that still uses that accursed trinity can have such synergy between players.Maroxad

A game with the trinity or a role system can still have crazy synergy between players...

Case in point, Pokemon, MOBAs and Guild Wars 1.

If a game lives and dies by the trinity, (see WoW) dont expect much synergy and proper teamwork, but in the case of Pokemon and GW1 therer is plenty of cooperation between party members in a proper team led by a proper leader. From what I heard and have seen, TERA doesnt live and die by the trinity unlike games like WoW.

From what I hear, TERA is most related to korean grindfests. The combat intrests me but the idea that it is derived from a korean grindfest is a major turnoff.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i find it hard to believe a game that still uses that accursed trinity can have such synergy between players.BrunoBRS

A game with the trinity or a role system can still have crazy synergy between players...

Case in point, Pokemon, MOBAs and Guild Wars 1.

If a game lives and dies by the trinity, (see WoW) dont expect much synergy and proper teamwork, but in the case of Pokemon and GW1 therer is plenty of cooperation between party members in a proper team led by a proper leader. From what I heard and have seen, TERA doesnt live and die by the trinity unlike games like WoW.

Ahh so that is what you mean by synergy.

What I meant was how well your group has to coordinate.

You see in WoW as a tank I never had to interact with my healers or damage dealers, I just had to make sure that I didnt stand in fire and did what hte boss told me to do and make sure my threat is above the rest of the group. There was no way for me to go out of my way to do more outside of that I was expected to do (to hold aggro and hopefully mitigate as much damage as possible), no way I can help the healers and damage dealers to do their job outside of some 60 minute buff.

There was no synergy in WoW between players in PvE, no proper teamwork with the exception of some boss mechanics. Compare this to a moba for instance or even WoW's PvP. Where there is a lot more teamwork and synergy between team members (hopefully).

From what I hear, TERA is most related to korean grindfests. The combat intrests me but the idea that it is derived from a korean grindfest is a major turnoff.

Wasdie

From what I hear, TERA is most related to korean grindfests. The combat intrests me but the idea that it is derived from a korean grindfest is a major turnoff.

Wasdie

Appearantly the issue about TERA atm is the quest design: Go kill 10 trees, now go kill 10 trees with a different name, now go and collect 20 branches that are obtained from... killing trees.

As for the time taken to reach the level cap. It is fine, and doesnt take too long to reach the level cap.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

A game with the trinity or a role system can still have crazy synergy between players...

Case in point, Pokemon, MOBAs and Guild Wars 1.

If a game lives and dies by the trinity, (see WoW) dont expect much synergy and proper teamwork, but in the case of Pokemon and GW1 therer is plenty of cooperation between party members in a proper team led by a proper leader. From what I heard and have seen, TERA doesnt live and die by the trinity unlike games like WoW.

Maroxad

Ahh so that is what you mean by synergy.

What I meant was how well your group has to coordinate.

You see in WoW as a tank I never had to interact with my healers or damage dealers, I just had to make sure that I didnt stand in fire and did what hte boss told me to do and make sure my threat is above the rest of the group. There was no way for me to go out of my way to do more outside of that I was expected to do (to hold aggro and hopefully mitigate as much damage as possible), no way I can help the healers and damage dealers to do their job outside of some 60 minute buff.

There was no synergy in WoW between players in PvE, no proper teamwork with the exception of some boss mechanics. Compare this to a moba for instance or even WoW's PvP. Where there is a lot more teamwork and synergy between team members (hopefully).