TF2 and its learning curve...

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#1 kungfuchaos
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Guys I have started playing TF2 and even though I suck terribly at it, I am having a blast. What a great game!!! I am looking for any tips to help me get better. Also, are the items in the store that cost real $$$ alot of help?

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#2 kris9031998
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Guys I have started playing TF2 and even though I suck terribly at it, I am having a blast. What a great game!!! I am looking for any tips to help me get better. Also, are the items in the store that cost real $$$ alot of help?

kungfuchaos
Not really, drops are the best way to get items. Buying them is like buying meat: At first you like it, but after a while it turns bad and you dont know how to get rid of it (bought items cannot be traded .....unless with gift wrap)
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#4 James161324
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It just takes pratice, if your really sucking just be an medic

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#5 Deathykins
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What class are you playing as? Each class has it's own role, so it would be too much work to go in depth with tips for every class.

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#6 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Classes like the heavy are quite straitforward to play and you can do well as.. Medic is another one that is a enjoyable class with not much of a tough learning curve.. The only class I suggest stay away from is the scout and spy. Both those classes are not only two of the most fragile but hardest (and unforgiving) classes to play as.
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#7 metroidfood
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Watch some videos on youtube for the class you want to play. You'll pick up some good tricks.

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#8 shakmaster13
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Play as the heavy or the medic. Hell, play as an engi and just camp an important corner that is somewhat out of reach.
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#9 hamelkarl
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I remember that some guide were available on youtube. Try your luck there, I don't know if they are still good, but I'm sure there's still great things to find there.

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#10 tutt3r
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Your stock weapons are better than most weapons you get in the store. One thing I learned in tf2 is to not run solo. That is, never rush into and engagement without some teammates or your going to lose every time if the opponent is better. look at what classes your team needs and choose that class, not the one you want to play. In the long run you get to know more about each class and you help your team a lot. Its often best to retreat than to push and try and finish off someone. Playing passive aggressively in TF2 gets you the kills.

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#11 snowmanman7
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Guys I have started playing TF2 and even though I suck terribly at it, I am having a blast. What a great game!!! I am looking for any tips to help me get better. Also, are the items in the store that cost real $$$ alot of help?

kungfuchaos

You don't HAVE to buy any item in TF2 because you can unlock, craft, and trade items the more you play. I say get to know all the default items first because they are, most of the time, the best. Once you get a handle on the default items then its way more satisfying when you try out different items and playstyles. Look at the stats of items and see if you would like that kind of playstyle.

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#12 ionusX
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Guys I have started playing TF2 and even though I suck terribly at it, I am having a blast. What a great game!!! I am looking for any tips to help me get better. Also, are the items in the store that cost real $$$ alot of help?

kungfuchaos

if your willing to add me to friend on steam (my ID is TheCrazyGuy) ill happily give you a few pointers and maybe a few bits of advice varying on what class you really want to play.

my profile:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ionus123

im not the best either but i can ahdnle myself and guarantee to always be dealing alot of damage every life & round i get. i also play a pretty mean pyro or soldier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbEG7P6RuJU

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Pay attention to the general flow of the game and you will be fine. If the team is pushing then pick an offensive class and NOT scout unless you are sure that you can not run into a wall of sentries. If your team is defending pick a defensive class like heavy or sniper and try to deny the enemy area until time runs out. The game isn't hard when you understand the mechanics behind it.

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#14 snowmanman7
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Try and know the role of each class and work to help the team and not yourself. People notice a good team more than a good player.

As others have said, heavy and medic are the easiest. Spy is probably the hardest to play. Don't worry though because the more you play the more you learn.

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#15 cain006
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The game is very much about positioning. Right now, just stick with at least one person on your team at all times. Play pretty much any class except spy, sniper, or engineer on defense because you won't really learn much from playing them. Soldier would be pretty good because it's pretty easy to be alright at. If you're good at aiming and dodging, try scout. You could be Medic but if you're bad, people will probably get mad at you. Whenever you're playing medic, just remember it's always better to uber early instead of dying.

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#16 dk00111
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Really? I actually found the learning curve to be quite low (the influx of new players probably helped with that). Pick a few classes that you like, and focus on those. When you play, play as a team and do your role, and the points will come. If you're in a server where teamwork is practically absent, consider changing servers.
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#17 boybrushdred
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Guys I have started playing TF2 and even though I suck terribly at it, I am having a blast. What a great game!!! I am looking for any tips to help me get better. Also, are the items in the store that cost real $$$ alot of help?

kungfuchaos

glad you're enjoying it. here's a tip. if you're playing scout, never use a teleporter. scouts can run fast enough to get to where the action is. let your slow moving teammates use the teleporter.

there's a guide / FAQ for new players at the GameFAQs TF2 boards

also, i think the only items worth getting at the store are [rocket jumper] and the [sticky jumper] worth 50cents each. these weapons are for different playstyIe of demomen and soldiers. its used for rocket jumping without taking damage (Note: they also dont deal damage to opponents). they are way expensive if you buy from other players.

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Really? I actually found the learning curve to be quite low (the influx of new players probably helped with that). Pick a few classes that you like, and focus on those. When you play, play as a team and do your role, and the points will come. If you're in a server where teamwork is practically absent, consider changing servers.dk00111
Its easy to get started and be decent at, but it takes a while to learn all the quirks of the class and be able to use them to their potential. The pyro is a perfect example of this, a class simple to start but with a massive amount of depth.

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#19 ionusX
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[QUOTE="dk00111"]Really? I actually found the learning curve to be quite low (the influx of new players probably helped with that). Pick a few classes that you like, and focus on those. When you play, play as a team and do your role, and the points will come. If you're in a server where teamwork is practically absent, consider changing servers.ferret-gamer

Its easy to get started and be decent at, but it takes a while to learn all the quirks of the class and be able to use them to their potential. The pyro is a perfect example of this, a class simple to start but with a massive amount of depth.

indeed i mean he can be such a utility. personnaly i snipe with the flare gun thats like fun to tha max :P

i think ive actually felled more folks with the flares than the flamethrower itself.

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#20 DanielDust
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You have to be twitchy for these kind of games. For example I'm pretty average on normal shooter, but once I get on Quake, UT, TF 2, everything changes. It's also about thinking "ahead", the most fun you'll have imo is when you'll be good enough to to hit players in the air with the demoman . Just stick to one class till you get better at it then change and so on.
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#21 ejeet
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like I said use an aimbot it will be more fun. Just tweak it so it doesn't make you do a 360. You can also just bind it to something like mouse 3. That way it doesn't annoy people all the time.
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#22 DanielDust
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like I said use an aimbot it will be more fun. Just tweak it so it doesn't make you do a 360. You can also just bind it to something like mouse 3. That way it doesn't annoy people all the time.ejeet
It also gets you VAC banned and you won't be able to play your Source games online assuming you have some. That's the worst advice.
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#24 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="ejeet"]like I said use an aimbot it will be more fun. Just tweak it so it doesn't make you do a 360. You can also just bind it to something like mouse 3. That way it doesn't annoy people all the time.ejeet
It also gets you VAC banned and you won't be able to play your Source games online assuming you have some. That's the worst advice.

No it's not the worst advice. I wouldn't recommend it before... But the game is FREE now. VAC Banned? Okay just make a new account and play again...... VAC bans are also delayed. Meaning you could get banned a month after cheating, or 6 years after cheating. It's their clever *cough awful* anti-cheat system. He can just bind an aimbot to a key so he has some fun. Get a positive score. You know, not getting totally slaughtered and smashing face on keyboard.

It must suck to be a cheater...who ever heard of enjoying a game, nah, just get a hack and continue to press a button till you get bored of killing people or get banned, then you find another server/make another account and repeat for a few days then forget about the game. The worst of the online community right, here, too bad every game has such players.
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#25 ejeet
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="ejeet"][QUOTE="DanielDust"] It also gets you VAC banned and you won't be able to play your Source games online assuming you have some. That's the worst advice.

No it's not the worst advice. I wouldn't recommend it before... But the game is FREE now. VAC Banned? Okay just make a new account and play again...... VAC bans are also delayed. Meaning you could get banned a month after cheating, or 6 years after cheating. It's their clever *cough awful* anti-cheat system. He can just bind an aimbot to a key so he has some fun. Get a positive score. You know, not getting totally slaughtered and smashing face on keyboard.

It must suck to be a cheater...who ever heard of enjoying a game, nah, just get a hack and continue to press a button till you get bored of killing people or get banned, then you find another server/make another account and repeat for a few days then forget about the game. The worst of the online community right, here, too bad every game has such players.

oh you... so negative :) First who said cheaters don't enjoy the game LOL? I don't cheat but totally decimating 40+ people in a few seconds is quite hilarious. Now I didn't say he should do that. I said he should just get a tweaked aimbot and toggle having some fun. and again... he wouldn't get banned in 'a few days.' Like I said doesn't matter if he gets banned, make a new account.
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#26 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="ejeet"][QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="ejeet"] No it's not the worst advice. I wouldn't recommend it before... But the game is FREE now. VAC Banned? Okay just make a new account and play again...... VAC bans are also delayed. Meaning you could get banned a month after cheating, or 6 years after cheating. It's their clever *cough awful* anti-cheat system. He can just bind an aimbot to a key so he has some fun. Get a positive score. You know, not getting totally slaughtered and smashing face on keyboard.

It must suck to be a cheater...who ever heard of enjoying a game, nah, just get a hack and continue to press a button till you get bored of killing people or get banned, then you find another server/make another account and repeat for a few days then forget about the game. The worst of the online community right, here, too bad every game has such players.

oh you... so negative :) First who said cheaters don't enjoy the game LOL? I don't cheat but totally decimating 40+ people in a few seconds is quite hilarious. Now I didn't say he should do that. I said he should just get a tweaked aimbot and toggle having some fun. and again... he wouldn't get banned in 'a few days.' Like I said doesn't matter if he gets banned, make a new account.

Did it occur to you that people buy games on Steam and have other VAC games from Valve? do you think everyone is as obsessed as a certain someone to cheat a game from another account instead of having the profile data on the actual account? Also if you're behind a static ip, absolutely any account you made on it will be VAC banned. No, the cheating part in this thread isn't giggly fun, it's pretty stupid and not a real advice (you don't cheat but love cheating how does that work?). He simply asked for advice on how to get better because he "enjoys the game". You'd cheat only if you wanted to show off your mad nonexistent skills, or when you don't care about a game because you suck so much it's frustrating, which isn't the case of the TC.
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#28 ejeet
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I think you need to read how VAC works. check the FAQ and use google as well. VAC is not enabled on all games. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games. Other companies use anti-cheat like punkbuster or they don't at all.
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The teamwork in this game is rather different than, say, COD, because of the class system. A team is like a puzzle and you should try to be the missing piece. Spies troubling your engineers? Be a Pyro. It's not hard to be useful to the team without any kind of communication, as long as you do what your class is supposed to do. I've been doing surprisingly well in my first couple of days, and I chalk it down to newbies playing whatever class they feel like, rather than what makes sense.
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#31 ejeet
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="ejeet"]I think you need to read how VAC works. check the FAQ and use google as well. VAC is not enabled on all games. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games. Other companies use anti-cheat like punkbuster or they don't at all.

I think you need to read again what you just posted. And good luck trolling further.

uh k? Grats on being wrong and having nothing more to say LOL.
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[QUOTE="ejeet"]I think you need to read how VAC works. check the FAQ and use google as well. VAC is not enabled on all games. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games. Other companies use anti-cheat like punkbuster or they don't at all.

TF2 is a Source game so VAC works on TF2
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#33 ejeet
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[QUOTE="boybrushdred"][QUOTE="ejeet"]I think you need to read how VAC works. check the FAQ and use google as well. VAC is not enabled on all games. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games. Other companies use anti-cheat like punkbuster or they don't at all.

TF2 is a Source game so VAC works on TF2

Yes? Why are you telling me something I already know and stated?
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#34 DanielDust
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Ok last post x2, I'm a sucker for needy people.

Did it occur to you that people buy games on Steam and have other VAC games from Valve?

Boy, you sure showed me ;)

VAC is not enabled on all games. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games.

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[QUOTE="boybrushdred"][QUOTE="ejeet"]I think you need to read how VAC works. check the FAQ and use google as well. VAC is not enabled on all games. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games. Other companies use anti-cheat like punkbuster or they don't at all.ejeet
TF2 is a Source game so VAC works on TF2

Yes? Why are you telling me something I already know and stated?

You never stated it and clearly don't know it.
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#37 Starshine_M2A2
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I guess I have to bold it LOL. You guys might want to get your eyes checked. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games LOLejeet
And yet you said VAC will enable a repeat offense on TF2 suggesting that it is not applied. VAC is one of the strictest anti-hacking programs out there and if you think its going to allow you to use aimbot, you're very much mistaken, troll.
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[QUOTE="ejeet"]I think you need to read how VAC works. check the FAQ and use google as well. VAC is not enabled on all games. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games. Other companies use anti-cheat like punkbuster or they don't at all.

Red Orchestra, Killing Floor, Modern Warfare 2, Black Ops, Brink, Homefront, Shogun 2, Shattered Horizon, Magicka. Those and more all use VAC. The VAC system is a part of steamworks available for any dev putting their gaming into steam, it is just up to the developers discretion whether they want to integrate VAC.
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#44 Starshine_M2A2
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[QUOTE="Starshine_M2A2"][QUOTE="ejeet"] Do you have a life? I mean your trolling me here trying to a prove a point. I don't know what your point is though. You don't read posts and can't accept your wrong. I guess you don't have a life? LOL.ejeet
How am I the troll when you're telling people to learn to read and to accept your own opinion as fact. Plus your continuation of this topic for no reason whatsoever and your general offensive attitude. Now, I risk becoming a troll myself and I also have better things to do than talk to you so I will therefore cease my involvement in this thread. But, I would like to say as a closing statement that you are one seriously deluded and misinformed individual.

nice way to go out LOL. Just because you were wrong about VAC and you won't even read posts. You can try to make yourself feel better after your bantering but ultimately you failed here. My guess is a few of these people who have responded to me have been VAC banned before.

Following Dust's example here with the X2 end post but you actually said that VAC works on source games - not that TF2 was a source game. Therefore you did not state it and your claim that using an aimbot will not be detected by VAC is as wrong is it possibly could be. So essentially, you're a liar as well as a troll. Anyway, making like Dust!
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I never said other games didn't use VAC. I said some don't . L2read again.ejeet

"VAC is not enabled on all games. It is enabled for the classic half-life era games and the source games. Other companies use anti-cheat like punkbuster or they don't at all"

That little sentence ring a bell?

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#47 OutOfPoint
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I bought the game last year but could never really get into it. :(

Perhaps the graphic turns me off.

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#48 GhoX
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The items from stores tend to offer alternative styles of gameplay. For example, the bow and arrow provides a completely new style for snipers, while the two shop sniper rifles encourages body shooters and head shooters respectively. Finally, all the items are obtainable as drops through normal gameplay or crafting.
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#49 scar-hawk
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Sydney Sleeper sniping. That is all. I was in a pub, and I'm a truly terrible sniper. But I was getting 7 kill streaks constantly and dominating a few people just with the Sydney sleeper. Funny stuff lol.
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#50 starwarsjunky
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its been awhile, but when i started playing the game (about a year), i didn't thing the learning curve was that bad at all