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#1 pvtdonut54
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yo, so I started up Steam and it's updating TF2 so I guess the sniper vs. spy update has been officially released. Go party!

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#2 jaybay723
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Strange, Tf2 is not updating on my account. I will just wait a little more.

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#3 JangoWuzHere
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Steam really needs to get their crap together. Almost every single TF2 server was laggy because everyone was downloading TF2 via free weekend. And now that the update is out it took me 5 mins to even load my game list and it took me another min to try and download the update.

Why can't Steam prepare for this kind of crap? This has happened so many times now but they can't expand the server a bit?

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#4 HelloJon
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How do you download it for free? I went to Steam, but the only thing I can find is to pay 9.99 for it.

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#5 Deadly_Fatalis
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Its basically getting almost everyone who owns TF2 to go and download an update. That would explain the lag. Honestly, I'm not surprised.
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#6 Dr_Brocoli
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Steam really needs to get their crap together. Almost every single TF2 server was laggy because everyone was downloading TF2 via free weekend. And now that the update is out it took me 5 mins to even load my game list and it took me another min to try and download the update.

Why can't Steam prepare for this kind of crap? This has happened so many times now but they can't expand the server a bit?

JangoWuzHere
I've had none of these problems. A) get better internetz or B) Dont play TF2 or use their service if it botheres you that much two simple solutions. Have a nice day.
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#7 REforever101
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it doesn't seem to be downloading for me

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#8 Franko_3
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going at 5kbsec and my steam friend page has crashed in middle of a l4d game an hour ago... Hard to believe some people still don't have this masterpiece and need the 10th free week-end to make their choice about getting it...
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#9 Swiftstrike5
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Hard to believe some people still don't have this masterpiece and need the 10th free week-end to make their choice about getting it...Franko_3
I find it hard to believe as well.
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#10 REforever101
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finished downloading, but it would seem the servers are crap right now :|

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#11 Franko_3
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it's alway like that, server host need to download the update and restart their servers. It should be better tomorow...

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#12 True_Sounds
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Steam really needs to get their crap together. Almost every single TF2 server was laggy because everyone was downloading TF2 via free weekend. And now that the update is out it took me 5 mins to even load my game list and it took me another min to try and download the update.

Why can't Steam prepare for this kind of crap? This has happened so many times now but they can't expand the server a bit?

Dr_Brocoli

I've had none of these problems. A) get better internetz or B) Dont play TF2 or use their service if it botheres you that much two simple solutions. Have a nice day.

Don't be naive (or a douche). I have great internet and couldn't connect to servers. It's probably not on his end either.

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#13 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Steam really needs to get their crap together. Almost every single TF2 server was laggy because everyone was downloading TF2 via free weekend. And now that the update is out it took me 5 mins to even load my game list and it took me another min to try and download the update.

Why can't Steam prepare for this kind of crap? This has happened so many times now but they can't expand the server a bit?

OMGZ a full 5 mins.. Hold the phone.
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[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] I've had none of these problems. A) get better internetz or B) Dont play TF2 or use their service if it botheres you that much two simple solutions. Have a nice day.

go away. Lots of people are having these problems. Does it make you feel special because you don't manage to get them? [QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Steam really needs to get their crap together. Almost every single TF2 server was laggy because everyone was downloading TF2 via free weekend. And now that the update is out it took me 5 mins to even load my game list and it took me another min to try and download the update.

Why can't Steam prepare for this kind of crap? This has happened so many times now but they can't expand the server a bit?

OMGZ a full 5 mins.. Hold the phone.

Steam should manage their servers better. People who also don't like or want TF2 suffer along with everyone playing on steam.
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#15 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] go away. Lots of people are having these problems. Does it make you feel special because you don't manage to get them? [QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Steam really needs to get their crap together. Almost every single TF2 server was laggy because everyone was downloading TF2 via free weekend. And now that the update is out it took me 5 mins to even load my game list and it took me another min to try and download the update.

Why can't Steam prepare for this kind of crap? This has happened so many times now but they can't expand the server a bit?

OMGZ a full 5 mins.. Hold the phone.

Steam should manage their servers better. People who also don't like or want TF2 suffer along with everyone playing on steam.

My god for a FULL 5 minutes.. A full 5 minutes that either never happens to some users or rarely happens..
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#16 theking52_TDK
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It is kinda slow ... only downloading at 600kb/sec. Usually goes atleast twice that speed :S

But atleast its downloading, for the last hour it wouldn't. I hope that means servers wont be laggy either.

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#17 REforever101
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ha ha ha ha, i just noticed that sniper now has a scar under his eye where spy cut him in the meet the spy video

look really close at a sniper's face if you don't believe me

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#18 coolmonkeykid
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the way you get weapons now is terrible!
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#19 REforever101
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the way you get weapons now is terrible!coolmonkeykid
yes, yes it is. been playing for a while now and i've got nothing. meanwhile, some guy got it while he was SITTING OUT in arena
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#20 Franko_3
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you don't get weapons via achievment anymore?
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#21 carter15kd5
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[QUOTE="coolmonkeykid"]the way you get weapons now is terrible!REforever101
yes, yes it is. been playing for a while now and i've got nothing. meanwhile, some guy got it while he was SITTING OUT in arena

ya they need to fix that very dumb

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#22 REforever101
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you don't get weapons via achievment anymore?Franko_3
nope
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#23 Locke562
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Steam really needs to get their crap together. Almost every single TF2 server was laggy because everyone was downloading TF2 via free weekend. And now that the update is out it took me 5 mins to even load my game list and it took me another min to try and download the update.

Why can't Steam prepare for this kind of crap? This has happened so many times now but they can't expand the server a bit?

JangoWuzHere
heh, I think we may have been playing on the same server earlier.
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#24 pinneyapple
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Eh, I didn't have any problems downloading it. Sniper time!

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#25 cd_rom
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Random drops? RANDOM DROPS?!? What the hell is this?
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#26 HondaSnake
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you don't get weapons via achievment anymore?Franko_3
Nope, not anymore. A pro Spy can play all day, be at the top of the scoreboard, and still not get his Ambassador. Meanwhile someone who rarely plays can get his Ambassador and not even consider playing Spy.

In my opinion they need to bring back the unlocks based on achievements, otherwise what is the point of getting the achievements anyway? This new system sucks. I'm hoping after this free weekend (lagfest), they turn the system around and bring back meaning to the achievements.

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#27 takeiteazy3
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Franko_3

sorry offtopic, but your sig is halarious.:lol:

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#28 OoSuperMarioO
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Random drops? RANDOM DROPS?!? What the hell is this?cd_rom
World of TF2Craft

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#29 R4gn4r0k
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[QUOTE="Franko_3"]you don't get weapons via achievment anymore?HondaSnake

Nope, not anymore. A pro Spy can play all day, be at the top of the scoreboard, and still not get his Ambassador. Meanwhile someone who rarely plays can get his Ambassador and not even consider playing Spy.

In my opinion they need to bring back the unlocks based on achievements, otherwise what is the point of getting the achievements anyway? This new system sucks. I'm hoping after this free weekend (lagfest), they turn the system around and bring back meaning to the achievements.



Totally agree. I was playing for a few hours but I got absolutly nothing. The weapon I really want the most is the huntsman but because the system is random now I have much more chance unlocking weapons I already have than the weapon I want.

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#30 PTMags
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50 DKP MINUS!

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#31 pvtdonut54
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so did anybody getting anything yet?

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#32 ninjabeaver1
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The new drop system sounds full of fail. But on the other hand, the Spy has recieved a superbuff. Hurray for me cause thats all I play these days. :D
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#33 JangoWuzHere
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Random drops? RANDOM DROPS?!? What the hell is this?cd_rom
Its better then achivements if you ask me. This random drop system isn't good but achivements are worse. The only way I ever got all the weapeons was asking my friends to help me get them which sort of ruins the point of them. And with achivements people just create acivement farming servers to get the weapons so the whole point of earning these achivements while you play the game is pointless.
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#34 Dutch_Mix
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Both ideas are full of fail. Surely Valve could have come up with something better than this?

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#35 weirjf
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Steam really needs to get their crap together. Almost every single TF2 server was laggy because everyone was downloading TF2 via free weekend. And now that the update is out it took me 5 mins to even load my game list and it took me another min to try and download the update.

Why can't Steam prepare for this kind of crap? This has happened so many times now but they can't expand the server a bit?

Dr_Brocoli

I've had none of these problems. A) get better internetz or B) Dont play TF2 or use their service if it botheres you that much two simple solutions. Have a nice day.

I haven't had internet issues in 5 years but Steam and TF2 are running like complete garbage right now. Assumption is the mother of all f**k-ups.

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#36 weirjf
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"]Random drops? RANDOM DROPS?!? What the hell is this?JangoWuzHere
Its better then achivements if you ask me. This random drop system isn't good but achivements are worse. The only way I ever got all the weapeons was asking my friends to help me get them which sort of ruins the point of them. And with achivements people just create acivement farming servers to get the weapons so the whole point of earning these achivements while you play the game is pointless.

Actually... achievement servers are for people like me that would rather quit playing entirely than to continue to attempt, over and over again some of the absolutely idiotic achievements required to get the last weapon unlocked. Especially since so many of them require hooking up with someone of another class that isn't a complete idiot. No thanks.

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#37 Kolossi
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so did anybody getting anything yet?

pvtdonut54

Yeah, I got the Ambassador.

BTW, how many of you have found a weapon you already had, like The Sandman or the Sandvich? Ive found The Backburner, which I already had.

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#38 cd_rom
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"]Random drops? RANDOM DROPS?!? What the hell is this?JangoWuzHere
Its better then achivements if you ask me. This random drop system isn't good but achivements are worse. The only way I ever got all the weapeons was asking my friends to help me get them which sort of ruins the point of them. And with achivements people just create acivement farming servers to get the weapons so the whole point of earning these achivements while you play the game is pointless.

What they should have done is use the MVP system. If they wanted to make this into more of a RPG type system, then the MVPs roll or a new weapon. That way, you actually EARN a weapon. There are people who literally just sat in the spawn an entire match and got a weapon. I on the other hand, played for five hours straight and got zip.
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#39 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"]Random drops? RANDOM DROPS?!? What the hell is this?JangoWuzHere
Its better then achivements if you ask me. This random drop system isn't good but achivements are worse. The only way I ever got all the weapeons was asking my friends to help me get them which sort of ruins the point of them. And with achivements people just create acivement farming servers to get the weapons so the whole point of earning these achivements while you play the game is pointless.

although i agree achievements are pretty stupid to unlock weapons, especially how ridiculous some of the achievements are but this new system is also pretty damn stupid too, i still dont even fully understand it, because for some reason no information is provided anywhere about it, which is the most frustrating part of this all might as well just give us the damn weapons upfront, like they should of done in the first place or atleast just do something along the lines of...rack up a total of "x" amount of total points to unlock this, this and that
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#40 dan-rofl-copter
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I will go on soon and look at it myself.

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#41 pvtdonut54
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so far this update is shaky. Bunch of freebie ten year olds won't keep out of chat, and cannot get a weapon at all. :(

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#42 HondaSnake
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So far I've only found two unlocks, the KGB and Kritz. Both of which I already had a long time ago :(
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[QUOTE="Franko_3"]you don't get weapons via achievment anymore?HondaSnake

Nope, not anymore. A pro Spy can play all day, be at the top of the scoreboard, and still not get his Ambassador. Meanwhile someone who rarely plays can get his Ambassador and not even consider playing Spy.

In my opinion they need to bring back the unlocks based on achievements, otherwise what is the point of getting the achievements anyway? This new system sucks. I'm hoping after this free weekend (lagfest), they turn the system around and bring back meaning to the achievements.

your looking at a very rare scenario. FOr the most part, those who play the most will get the unlocks faster, thus the new system rewards time played. I love it. Yes it is a roll of the dice. The pro spy who plays all die is far more likely to get the weapon then the spy who rarely plays. You just pointed out a rare event and act like thats going to happen to everyone.

it may not drop today or tomorrow, but keep playing and you'll get it. it rewards perseverance, effort, time played. i love it.

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#44 cd_rom
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Well, I've played for roughly eight hours since the release. The only thing I've unlocked was the Kritzkrieg... which I already had. I want my spy cloaks :cry:. Some people got all of their weapons already. Some got a weapon within 15 seconds of logging in. It just doesn't make sense.
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#45 REforever101
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Well, I've played for roughly eight hours since the release. The only thing I've unlocked was the Kritzkrieg... which I already had. I want my spy cloaks :cry:. Some people got all of their weapons already. Some got a weapon within 15 seconds of logging in. It just doesn't make sense.cd_rom
yea, this is very bs, i still haven't gotten anything at all
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#46 vdastampede
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Regarding the slow servers, what's wrong with waiting a few days before the Spy vs Sniper update hype dies down? I mean, that's what I've been doing what with me being able to keep occupied with other video games or...you know...life.

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#47 JangoWuzHere
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Regarding the slow servers, what's wrong with waiting a few days before the Spy vs Sniper update hype dies down? I mean, that's what I've been doing what with me being able to keep occupied with other video games or...you know...life.

vdastampede
Ummm because we want to play the Spy vs Sniper update? Why should we have to wait? Thats a really stupid question to me.
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#48 vdastampede
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[QUOTE="vdastampede"]

Regarding the slow servers, what's wrong with waiting a few days before the Spy vs Sniper update hype dies down? I mean, that's what I've been doing what with me being able to keep occupied with other video games or...you know...life.

JangoWuzHere

Ummm because we want to play the Spy vs Sniper update? Why should we have to wait? Thats a really stupid question to me.

So you'd rather keep trying your luck getting a good connection, failing due to the high traffic, go on a forum whine "they're so unprepared!! I wanna play noooooow!!!!" then simply wait about 3 to 6 days?

Hey, whatever makes you happy man.