The death of Xbox and Playstation without the PC

Xbox and Playstation rely on advances made by PC graphic technologies.

For that matter Netflix wouldn't be in existence without the graphic demands of PC gamers.

Without the PC and its gamers, then there is less push for advances in the other areas since console gamers are a captive consumer group. We are not captive in any way and our demands for better graphics know no bounds!

We are the driving force behind a revolution in graphic technology so the next company that wants to opt out of PC games will learn to regret that decision due to their laziness. Their games will (soon enough) become stale and cookie-cutter and their profits will erode. Those companies that remain cutting edge will thrive!

That sounds a little twisted. Console games were better looking when they first came out than any pc game.AzureCuzYeah

How so?

There wouldn't be anything called a "console" without the PC. The PC helped to develop the console. Without PC gamers, then your console technology will stagnate.

That sounds a little twisted. Console games were better looking when they first came out than any pc game.AzureCuzYeah

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When?

[QUOTE="AzureCuzYeah"]That sounds a little twisted. Console games were better looking when they first came out than any pc game.D9-THC

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When?

In the 80´s. The consoles back then (ATARI etc) had better graphics than the PC. The PC originally only had monochrome character display. Then came the CGA adapter : it could only display four colors out of a menu of a total of 16 colors at any given moment, and at a resolution of 320 x 200. That was at the time the C64 was way ahead. Sure, the C64 was not a true console, but the other consoles at the time were way better.

It was only in the 90's that the PC surpassed consoles. With the invention of 3D accelerator cards, the PC never lost it's edge.

So ends the history lesson.

[QUOTE="AzureCuzYeah"]That sounds a little twisted. Console games were better looking when they first came out than any pc game.D9-THC

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When?

i remember goldeneye looking a lot better than any pc game at the time.

i would say since 2000 pc games have shot ahead in terms of visual quality. and with crysis, world in conflict, etc, the pc is ahead of the pack again

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[QUOTE="AzureCuzYeah"]That sounds a little twisted. Console games were better looking when they first came out than any pc game.belboz

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When?

In the 80´s. The consoles back then (ATARI etc) had better graphics than the PC. The PC originally only had monochrome character display. Then came the CGA adapter : it could only display four colors out of a menu of a total of 16 colors at any given moment, and at a resolution of 320 x 200. That was at the time the C64 was way ahead. Sure, the C64 was not a true console, but the other consoles at the time were way better.

It was only in the 90's that the PC surpassed consoles. With the invention of 3D accelerator cards, the PC never lost it's edge.

So ends the history lesson.

[QUOTE="D9-THC"]

[QUOTE="AzureCuzYeah"]That sounds a little twisted. Console games were better looking when they first came out than any pc game.belboz

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When?

In the 80´s. The consoles back then (ATARI etc) had better graphics than the PC. The PC originally only had monochrome character display. Then came the CGA adapter : it could only display four colors out of a menu of a total of 16 colors at any given moment, and at a resolution of 320 x 200. That was at the time the C64 was way ahead. Sure, the C64 was not a true console, but the other consoles at the time were way better.

It was only in the 90's that the PC surpassed consoles. With the invention of 3D accelerator cards, the PC never lost it's edge.

So ends the history lesson.

consoles are computers with custom operating systems and hardware that can't be replaced, and are controlled with two sticks and several buttons

i think the developers push for better graphics more than the players because, honestly, who wants to spend another $500 to be able to run these new games? its true that the PC basically displays what the next generation will be able to render 5 years prior to that generation, though.

and i personally would prefer better gameplay over better graphics

consoles are computers with custom operating systems and hardware that can't be replaced, and are controlled with two sticks and several buttons

i think the developers push for better graphics more than the players because, honestly, who wants to spend another $500 to be able to run these new games? its true that the PC basically displays what the next generation will be able to render 5 years prior to that generation, though.

and i personally would prefer better gameplay over better graphics

infect999

We are not captive in any way and our demands for better graphics know no bounds!

Jeb_ster

So, what you're saying is that PC gamers are to blame for the current game industry mentality that amazing graphics are all that's important, and that story, innovation, characterization, gameplay, etc. (you know, the important stuff) are all expendable? I guess Valve is screwed because they're still using the dated Source engine. damn, I might just have to stop playing PC games so I can see more games like Mass Effect come out.

Seriously, I know that you want to feed your ego and convince yourself that you're better than everyone else because you play your games on your computer, but this isn't the place for a topic like this. System Wars is. you'd probably enjoy yourself more over there as well, as there are plenty of idiot console fanboys who would be more than happy to make fools of themselves.

Also have no clue how Netflix relies on PC graphics to survive... last I checked they rented DVD's, and had absolutely nothing to do with PC gaming...

one thing people keep forgetting and a reason why PC gaming will not die:

the ability to create mods and by doing so make a name for yourself and go on to make games for money (see makers of et:quake wars, brothers in arms, ship, and the upcoming frontlines)

the pc is the only platform a small team can create games like savage 2, nitro stunt racing, defcon, the ship etc. reason been you don't have to pay for dev kits, the pc is open source so you don't pay roaylties, and digital distribution.

the pc isn't only about graphics, its about been able to try experiment and create games. Its probably why all the big franchises saw birth on the PC

one thing people keep forgetting and a reason why PC gaming will not die:

the ability to create mods and by doing so make a name for yourself and go on to make games for money (see makers of et:quake wars, brothers in arms, ship, and the upcoming frontlines)

the pc is the only platform a small team can create games like savage 2, nitro stunt racing, defcon, the ship etc. reason been you don't have to pay for dev kits, the pc is open source so you don't pay roaylties, and digital distribution.

the pc isn't only about graphics, its about been able to try experiment and create games. Its probably why all the big franchises saw birth on the PC

crozon

well said

a good example is the developers of Counter-Strike...they just made a simple mod for a game they loved, and it became the most popular online shooter of all time, now they're hired by valve and getting to work on big budget titles