the future of computer gaming

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#1 A-S_FM
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this isn't exactly an uncommon topic - i've seen it thrown around here a few times - what is going to happen to computer games once we hit that level of technology, and computer games really do have life-like visuals? sure, it may be 30 or 50 or 100 years off, and we may all be flying around in hover cars and space pigeons might invade the moon, but it is going to happen

and usually the replies are half life with realistic graphics, farcry with realistc graphics - ad ifinitum.. but often people will say, there will be a greater focus on storytelling, on ai - on substance... and i agree

but recently, i was thkinking - not what will happen to computer games once we have lifelike visuals - but what will happen to television and film, and how computer games will play off of them?

once we really do have full blown photorealism - and that may not come in our lifetimes - and the accompanying advancements in AI that, while much slower, will eventually come as well - will television and film, as we know it, continue to exist as we know it? in a world where film and television makers can make their documentary on tombs in egypt, or genocide in rwanda, or the filmmaker can make that epic war movie with hundreds of thousands of soldiers without leaving their offices - will they go to the effort of using livee-action sets and even - even actors? if a director can - literally - tailor the precise expressions and emotion from an artificial - yet utterly real - character, why bother with actors at all? - CG images are already used a great deal in films - is the next step abandoning people entirely?

will the human element continue to exist in the future of entertainment? will you want it to? - do you want it to? and how will it affect computer games? do you think computer games will continue to exist? - consider the potential advancements in AI, imagine if futiristic computer game-movies are scripted in the sense of a television show, but there's an underlying AI engine driving it all forward, and you can step in at any time and take over your - whatever - your favourite tv show in some way - is that possible? would you want it to be possible?

it would only take pretty advanced ai (or just a ton of scenario running for scripted reactions, even) and perhaps some advancement in voice synthesisers and you could more or less play your favourite tv show - imagine taking over an episode of house or 24 and seeing what you come up with? the potential for storytelling - interactive storytelling - is... amazing

i find myself increasingly feeling that the days of television are very numbered as an entertainment medium - computer games as well, and not that they will end, but change and merge and somehow become the same thing - in a world where developers aren't bogged down with graphics (because there will presumably come a point where making better looking games is pointless, even though in terms of raw numbers, it will always be possible) - they will be so free to look at the substance of the game - ever play any old text adventures? real old ones - they weren't bogged down with visuals - literally - and they spent all their time working on the subtsance of the game, and i remember some had hundreds of ways they could end - usuaully it was your untimely death because you told the rat to f**k off, or because you wanted to see what happened when you jumped from the balcony - but imagine if that essence was translated to modern computer games

but, would you want it to? does the idea appeal to you? would you rather sit with your keyboard and mouse and keep getting those headshots, or grinding out a new level? it is surely still decades away - but would you rather see a merging of the major forms of entertainment as we know them, into something straight out of star trek, or do you just want more of the same, only with better graphics?

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I always thought it'd be tight if all the conosole companies merged as one and made one, big, great console.
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#3 SuperBeast
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Ugh.....It's really a hard topic to get into.... Overall I believe that gaming will hit a mark at some point where visuals definitely don't even matter anymore. Meaning that someday, people won't even bother mentioning how good/bad the graphics look on a game (We're FAR from that point, at least 20yrs...but still). After the graphical wars have ended, the next step will be how realistic the world reacts around a player... Unfortunately AI is not going to improve very much as the years go on... It's been stated by tons of devs that AI is always going to be *dumbed down* for the players.... Nobody is going to want to play against a realistic opponent in a single player campaign that involves killing hundreds of people.
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I always thought it'd be tight if all the conosole companies merged as one and made one, big, great console.GIJesse77
competition is important, otherwise we'd get no where. and yes, i cant wait for the directors to finally realize that actors are son of bi*ches and fire them and replace them with photo realistic bots. good bye bald britney.
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#5 blackcee
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They will .....it's called,"HouSe" 

Wait til sony, martha stewart's kids, trimspa, viagra, intel, microsoft, the food network, all join forces.

The all-in-one-never-leave-your-seat-living-station-gaming love console 2078.

game, eat, drink, babysit, work, make love, vacation scenario environment. oh poop too.

or maybe not?????

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#6 pdkkbarnes1
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I personally don't think it will be any more than 10 years from now when game graphics will be photo realistic, but who knows.  I already find most television storytelling boring compared to going through the storyline in a game.  It's also refreshing to see a topic that is truly interesting instead of the usual PC gaming is dying discussion.
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#7 EntwineX
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I don't think tv will die, well tv in it's current form may, but a tv show or a movie is completely different from games in that it's not interactive, and I believe most people like it that way, there might be some merging but I son't think the old fashion "present a story" will go away. And I would definately want more than just pretty graphics from games, I think they could start moving into that direction already, but that's unlikely. I would like to command a space ship with voice commands via my headset("rear shields on full" etc) then land on any planet or station I want and start a GTA style gameplay with the depth of 10 Fallouts. Even tho technically that could propably already be done we propably won't see anything like it ever, instead they'll make COD17 with the newest Unreal 25.5 engine.
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#8 blackcee
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It's also refreshing to see a topic that is truly interesting instead of the usual PC gaming is dying discussion.pdkkbarnes1
I concur.
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#9 doktron
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Read a book,the future of entertainment! probably the best story-telling medium ever invented!People might even increase their intelligence!(you can always hope)

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#10 Cranler
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I personally don't think it will be any more than 10 years from now when game graphics will be photo realistic, but who knows.  I already find most television storytelling boring compared to going through the storyline in a game.  It's also refreshing to see a topic that is truly interesting instead of the usual PC gaming is dying discussion.pdkkbarnes1

I agree. Crysis will be released about 10 years after Quake 2. As long as this rate of progression keeps up.

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#11 Goosestophe
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Tv could never die! What would happen to House MD?
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#12 yian
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What if they could just install a chip in your head, and interface to the computer without a monitor? I don't really care if I can play games like that, but I sure want to surf the Internet just by thinking about it... :D

But I think people go to movies and watch TV for some reasons. Say, I like to eat chips and drink some stuff while I enjoy a show or a book. I cannot do that with a computer game, because it requires my input to keep the game going. It is too involving as a form of entertainment.

Even if games can look like just the real thing (and its implication will be tremendous, but that's another topic) , I believe that there are always people out there, wanting a more passive form of entertainment. Books and theaters have been around for hundreds of years, but none has replaced each other.

So, i think TV will always be around, but the way we watch TV is changing. I believe that TV will be Internet based soon. We will have total control on when and what to watch, and it will simply become part of the Internet.