The only game to make me put down TF2 after 2 years is.....

BF:BC2 beta! I'm a total newbie to the Battlefield world, but let me tell ya. With a clan that you can really learn from and work with, this game crushes TF2 and every other multi-player FPS game I've played,....ever. I don't think I can go back to TF2. After the majesty of the GFX and gameplay (Real ballistic calculations, Destruction 2.0, vehicular combat, customizable load out, etc...) of BF:BC2, TF2 looks really dated and plays like an old hat....Sorry Valve but DICE has my full attention now.

Keep you're Valve Shirt on , because in 2011 Episode 3 will come .

ehh, yeah its pretty phenomenal, nothing wrong with your statement. Its a very good game but i wanna see the full product!dakan45

Yeah me too, and I have no doubt that it'll be absolutely incredible and I'll be playin it for years. I still love Valve to pieces for all their free updates and support for TF2 and esp. for Steam, but until they release something as compelling visually and mentally as BFBC2, with as much replay value as TF2, I'll be playin BFBC2, AvP (if its as good as I hope it'll be), and StarCraft 2.

BF:BC2 beta! I'm a total newbie to the Battlefield world, but let me tell ya. With a clan that you can really learn from and work with, this game crushes TF2 and every other multi-player FPS game I've played,....ever. I don't think I can go back to TF2. After the majesty of the GFX and gameplay (Real ballistic calculations, Destruction 2.0, vehicular combat, customizable load out, etc...) of BF:BC2, TF2 looks really dated and plays like an old hat....Sorry Valve but DICE has my full attention now.

Rawtheory333

Well in some places it didn't look as sharp as others...not sure if it has anything to do with the platform though. Renevent42

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BF:BC2 beta! I'm a total newbie to the Battlefield world, but let me tell ya. With a clan that you can really learn from and work with, this game crushes TF2 and every other multi-player FPS game I've played,....ever. I don't think I can go back to TF2. After the majesty of the GFX and gameplay (Real ballistic calculations, Destruction 2.0, vehicular combat, customizable load out, etc...) of BF:BC2, TF2 looks really dated and plays like an old hat....Sorry Valve but DICE has my full attention now.

Dante2710

Nope, not joking at all. I love TF2 and I've invested about 220+ hours into it, but I've played BFBC2 beta for about 27 hours and the gameplay just crushes TF2 on level of variety, asymmetric tactics, environmental interaction. The only area I see where TF2 is better is in how self-explanatory the objectives are. But the higher your skill level gets the more the game tunnel visions to where the Heavy, Pyro and Engineer class become UP and thats a full third of the game-play potential.

TF2 still is more purist competitive game, for now, but with its inherent design choices, it can't offer the level of tactical variety, and environmental interaction that BFBC2 does.

TF2 is good, but nothing beats the Battlefield series for multiplayer.

Two totally differnt games.

I find the Beta fun for BF:BC2, but I donno about it takign over TF2 as my fav onlien FPS. Will hav eot wait for hte full version.

Its more fun to me then COD4 and Modern Warfare2 online, but so far TF2 is still the king.. we will see once BF:BC2 comes out though.

I logged like 700+ hours on TF2 I think through both my bros and my account. Playing 400hours on one map, dustbowl. I can only say I logged 40?? hours on BF2, hows BC2 does it beat BF2/2142, gameplay not graphicwise.

Yeah they're very different but we can still compare them on a the level of fun though. And that is all subjective. Other peeps on the Steam TF2 boards log in way more hours then I have and are still going strong. But for me, no other game has had me in more awe then Company of Heroes, and BFBC2 feels like I'm a unit in CoH, which feels just incredible. Different strokes...

Played the demo on 360 and I thought it was awesome. The destruction, the vehicle, the distant sound affects(liking hearing a gun fire or yell far away), and the gameplay was great. I want to get into the PC beta though to see how well my rig can handle it.

I played some BF BC 2 beta at a friend since I didn't manage to get a key and I'm disappointed, extremely, the gameplay is pretty average my only hope is that the high video settings from the full game makes it visually better, because gameplay won't change much, if at all from the beta. If I'd have to say something about this game it's that BF 2, even BF2142 obliterates it, crush is an understatement.DanielDust

the only multiplayer game to take me away from tf2 was l4d2 (go valve!). but i am eagerly awaiting bc2 also :)

In Team Fortress 2. I can only play small doses, after a while (1-2 games), I get bored. That is a fun while though. I put over 72 hours into the BFBC beta and enjoyed all of them. One map and one game type over and over without getting bored. Quite a feat, I say. Or that may just be the best map.

comparing an apple to an orange i see... very nice.

ehh, yeah its pretty phenomenal, nothing wrong with your statement. Its a very good game but i wanna see the full product!dakan45

For once i agree with this guy, at first i didn't like it much, but after playing more and getting used to the mechanics i can say it really does feel like a battlefield (no pun intended), with tanks blasting away at each other, snipers picking off those careless enough to be left out in the open, infantry rattling away at each other and explosions occuring all over the place, all of this causing environmental destruction.

I'm getting the full game for sure.

After a few hours of playing the beta i was a little disappointed, i had more fun with battlefield 2142, maybe it is too early to judge though. I didn't like that i couldn't prone and something about the shooting part just didn't feel right but that could be because i didn't play long enough. I liked the environmental destruction but i didn't really like the graphics, maybe because high textures are missing from beta and the game also needs more optimization.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]ehh, yeah its pretty phenomenal, nothing wrong with your statement. Its a very good game but i wanna see the full product!with_teeth26

For once i agree with this guy, at first i didn't like it much, but after playing more and getting used to the mechanics i can say it really does feel like a battlefield (no pun intended), with tanks blasting away at each other, snipers picking off those careless enough to be left out in the open, infantry rattling away at each other and explosions occuring all over the place, all of this causing environmental destruction.

I'm getting the full game for sure.

After a few hours of playing the beta i was a little disappointed, i had more fun with battlefield 2142, maybe it is too early to judge though. I didn't like that i couldn't prone and something about the shooting part just didn't feel right but that could be because i didn't play long enough. I liked the environmental destruction but i didn't really like the graphics, maybe because high textures are missing from beta and the game also needs more optimization.

Apssei

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After a few hours of playing the beta i was a little disappointed, i had more fun with battlefield 2142, maybe it is too early to judge though. I didn't like that i couldn't prone and something about the shooting part just didn't feel right but that could be because i didn't play long enough. I liked the environmental destruction but i didn't really like the graphics, maybe because high textures are missing from beta and the game also needs more optimization.

zomglolcats

I had heard that prone was not an option but still i kept pressing the usual prone buttons out of habit.

I wonder why no prone though? is it because it is hard to aim small targets with controllers?

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After a few hours of playing the beta i was a little disappointed, i had more fun with battlefield 2142, maybe it is too early to judge though. I didn't like that i couldn't prone and something about the shooting part just didn't feel right but that could be because i didn't play long enough. I liked the environmental destruction but i didn't really like the graphics, maybe because high textures are missing from beta and the game also needs more optimization.

zomglolcats

saying TF2 looks dated and plays like an old hat is a bit of a stretch in my opinion, it is still a great game and fun to play and the community will still be there for many years to come.

If you are thinking that bc 2 beta better then tf2,you must try AVP. the demo is about to relese tommarow.

I wonder why no prone though? is it because it is hard to aim small targets with controllers?

Apssei

DICE said that in consoles, since the lesser resolution, aiming prone players was harder than in PC, making the game more oriented to camping and turning the gameplay slower. They wanted more action and movement, so they disabled prone position.

I think that they were succesful because the matches has gradually less and less recons sniping and more of them playing with shotguns and using the C4 charges to blast armored vehicles or helping to assault/defend targets.

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I wonder why no prone though? is it because it is hard to aim small targets with controllers?

Ondoval

DICE said that in consoles, since the lesser resolution, aiming prone players was harder than in PC, making the game more oriented to camping and turning the gameplay slower. They wanted more action and movement, so they disabled prone position.

I think that they were succesful because the matches has gradually less and less recons sniping and more of them playing with shotguns and using the C4 charges to blast armored vehicles or helping to assault/defend targets.

Thank you for the information. About the snipers my experience was different though, people were complaining about them (snipers) being too many in some of the matches i played

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After a few hours of playing the beta i was a little disappointed, i had more fun with battlefield 2142, maybe it is too early to judge though. I didn't like that i couldn't prone and something about the shooting part just didn't feel right but that could be because i didn't play long enough. I liked the environmental destruction but i didn't really like the graphics, maybe because high textures are missing from beta and the game also needs more optimization.

DJ_Headshot

saying TF2 looks dated and plays like an old hat is a bit of a stretch in my opinion, it is still a great game and fun to play and the community will still be there for many years to come.

spektor_21000

Well it should look dated, its years old. But yes the gameplay of TF2 is sublime in its simple "perfection" (actually Heavy, Pyro and Engineer need work), and the community is huge but with all the things BFBC2 offers, TF2 feels boring to me now.

If you are thinking that bc 2 beta better then tf2,you must try AVP. the demo is about to relese tommarow.

Nirkaw

I most certainly WILL be playing the demo and I've already pre-ordered it on Steam. Can't wait! :)

Havent said this in a while but, I like the way EA is going.i-like-pie

I have to agree with you there