Things to ban instead of videogames

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Whenever something bad happens and videogames are a linked source of material, everyone always chases after it and wants them gone. If you think about it, the amount of damage that videogames cause compared to other things is insignificant. If videogames deserves to be banned so do cars and guns because they cause far more damage than videogames ever will. Books are greater sources of violent tendencies than video games by a factor of several times yet few people ever complain about books because they are considered to be protected by the first amendment in the United States. The thing is, videogames hardly cause any damage to society.

This is a list of all deaths said to be caused by videogames (taken from Destructoid.com). According to this list, 26 people have died in relation to videogames. These are DIRECT causes of death by videogames NOT INDIRECT. That means that person who strangled the other person with a controller would not count unless it was because of the game they were playing. If you make comparisons, videogames average maybe 2 deaths a year or 3 if you're synical about it. Spread this out throughout the time that videogames have been around and you have 1 death maybe every 4 or 5 years which is extremely low.

Apr 1999 - Columbine Massacre - 13 dead
Nov 2001 - Everquest suicide - 1 dead
Jun 2003 - Dustin Lynch - 1 dead
Jun 2003 - Devin Moore - 3 dead
Jun 2003 - Buckner brothers - 1 dead, 1 wounded
Feb 2004 - Murder of Stephen Pakeerah - 1 dead
Oct 2004 - Qiu Chengwei - 1 dead
Aug 2005 - Lee Seung Seop dies after playing Starcraft - 1 dead
Sep 2007 - Man dies in Guangzhou after 3-day binge - 1 dead
Dec 2007 - Beating in Russia - 1 dead
Oct 2008 - Brandon Crisp - 1 dead
Sep 2008 - Daniel Petric - 1 dead, 1 wounded

If you want to point out Virginia Tech, keep in mind that videogames were not related in any way in that incident. Seung-Hui Cho wrote violent literature and Sonic the Hedgechog isn't exactly the most violent character you could relate him to. His massacre was attributed to his writing and not videogames.

Alcohol:

Alcohol causes problems for the body but it also impairs judgment and the senses. For statistics, alcohol can be related to about 100000 deaths each year which is around 270 each day. Drunk driving kills people. It also makes people do things they normally wouldn't do such as beat up friends and families. Alcohol doesn't only cause violence related problems. If a guy and a girl get drunk and with their impaired judgment sleep with each other and have a child, the child is something they would be responsible for the rest of their life. Not to mention they might do other things like trash other people's property or make themselves seem like they need to be submitted to a mental institution.

Cars:

Bigger cars cause bigger deaths. A SUV is more likely to kill someone than a moped. Cars are convient for us in our every day life because it allows us to get around. On average, 100 people around the world die from a car crash EVERY day. This does not include injuries or permanent disabilities caused by these accidents. A lot of crimes also require cars to commit. Mostly the robbery types require a car but so do hit and runs and drive by shootings. Without cars these probably wouldn't happen. In one case in 2006, George Russell Weller killed 10 people in a single crash. That is almost as bad as the worst on the videogames list. Also, you can't exlcude it to a few bad drivers because videogames are generalized as well so the same case can be made about cars. Can't get to work? You better start learning how to ride a bicycle but the odds of a bicycle actually killing someone on impact is much lower than if a car hit the person. Even then chances are bicycles will still be more dangerous than videogames.

Guns:

Guns made it very easy to kill people. Just point at whatever you want to die and pull the trigger. Accidents also happen because it is too easy to use a gun. The United States has the highest death to population ratio in the world yet for some reason the neighboring country of Canada has hardly any despite having looser gun control laws. For those who argue that the United States allows guns to be owned because of the second amendment, the second amendment allows a state to form a militia (the National Guard) not for private citizens to have guns in their houses where people might hurt themselves. Around 70 people die each day because of guns in the United States. Guns also make it easier to steal and hurt others. Take away guns and people are less likely to do this.
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Ahhh, air also shoud be banned, it has obvious addictive qualities.

Anything in the wrong hands are bad, so you can't ban everything. And people will just find a way around it

Ban rap and death metal music!!

Hehe just kidding, there are just too many people looking to be politically correct and too many people looking for things to blame when bad things happen. I think its just a matter of people realizing that we as a society are never going to be perfect and there are always gonna be the potential for things around us to provide negative influences. I mean things like linking video games to fueling teenagers to go around and kill/injure people is like saying people will go around and start shooting people cuz they like watching james bond movies or wateva. People have to take responsibility for themselves and use some common sense!

despite the critical attitude,very few games have actually been banned over the years, and when they are, only in a few countries. i'm gonna be honest here....i think the average gaming community is just as paranoid as the anti-game crusaders are.gamers just can't stand their toys being criticized, even when alot of these claims areindeed valid and have alarmed even the law enforcers and psychologists. i for one am keeping an open mind if these professionals are to investigate and analyze the cultural/social phenomenon behind video gaming. we cannot afford to take things lightly just becoz it's affecting our fun.

Anything in the wrong hands are bad, so you can't ban everything. And people will just find a way around it

Jekken6

I agree with the TC that alcohol and cars totally diminish the death toll of a f-ing computer game.-No comparison...AT ALL!

[QUOTE="Jekken6"]

Anything in the wrong hands are bad, so you can't ban everything. And people will just find a way around it

Kh1ndjal

Oh Boy, another TC that rambles on with no facts. Gotta love these.

[QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"][QUOTE="Jekken6"]

Anything in the wrong hands are bad, so you can't ban everything. And people will just find a way around it

krazyorange

Thankfully the opinions of those who were not born or live in the United States don't count. You take care of your country and we will take care of ours :)

[QUOTE="Jekken6"]

Anything in the wrong hands are bad, so you can't ban everything. And people will just find a way around it

Kh1ndjal

I hunt, I shoot trap and skeet, I shoot in a pistol league, or I just go shoot one of my rifles for fun at the rifle range or up at my cabin. Its a sport its fun and I have never hurt anyone.

[QUOTE="krazyorange"][QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"] list the good things you can do with gunsSEANMCAD

majority of gun related deaths are commited accidentently.

you also have a better chance of having your own gun used against you in a robbery then you do to use it in protection.

additionally you dont have to kill someone to protect yourself, that is overkill.

Saggy breasts!!!!

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

majority of gun related deaths are commited accidentently.

you also have a better chance of having your own gun used against you in a robbery then you do to use it in protection.

additionally you dont have to kill someone to protect yourself, that is overkill.

SEANMCAD

So we can put a man on the moon but there is nothing that exists that can shoot a projectile into a person without killing them?

What about sleeping darts? I mean COME ON!

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][SEANMCAD

Guns are like hammers, saws, staplers etc. They are a tool with a very focused and specific purpose and its NOT to protect because there are many other tools that can exist that can protect and not kill.

So my core issue with personal gun ownership is that the owners do not face up to the fact that their tool is designed for one and only one purpose which is to kill. I don't care if someone is forkilling or not, what I care about is people who don't have the balls to admit it.

I really have nothing left to say to a bunch of cowards who cant even admit what the tool is designed for. Once they do that, then I might be willing to hear them out.

That doesn't even make sense at all...

Guns are for protection, and they have been used like that for hundreds of years. They have OTHER uses as well, but you dismiss the defense aspect all together and that couldn't be further from the truth.

A gun has multiple uses, including hunting, warfare, defense, leisure (target practice, skeet shooting, ect) your dismissal of this show that you are the one who has something they cannot admit.

A tool can have more then one use ;)

[QUOTE="Jekken6"]

Anything in the wrong hands are bad, so you can't ban everything. And people will just find a way around it

Kh1ndjal

[QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"][QUOTE="Jekken6"]

Anything in the wrong hands are bad, so you can't ban everything. And people will just find a way around it

arijit_2404

"For whatever reason they seem to be terrified to admit that the gun actually does kill"

Who doesn't admit that lol? Of course guns can kill. You seem to create these arguments in your head...

"You are telling me flat out that the only way to subdue a person is to kill them because in our wonderful technology age we have not found a way to do it by any other method."

Nobody ever said that, thats an argument you have made up for yourself. At any rate, there are other ways to subdue people...but the fact of the matter is a gun is by far the most effective way. And your rant is pretty dumb too...because people HAVE come up with other deterrents like alarm systems, having guard dogs, tazers, ect, ect. Guns are a last line of defense.

And a question...why do you feel it necessary to call gun owners "cowardly pansies" lol? I was a SGT in the 82nd Airborne and served in combat (Afghanistan)...and most of the people I know who own guns are former military as well.

And cops? They a bunch of "pansies"? They are out there everyday serving the public and dealing with the trash of society...putting their LIVES on the line every single day.

You need to reevaluate yourself and the way you look at other people...

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]You were done before you even started...your "statistics" are bunk, and your opinions don't match up to reality.SEANMCAD

A nail gun is designed to put nails in a wall easy and fast and companies spend money and time researching and engineering it to do that.

A nail gun can kill.

A gun is designed, tested and engineered to kill.

HUGE difference.

Just agree with that. or can you?

If a guy and a girl get drunk and with their impaired judgment sleep with each other and have a child, the child is something they would be responsible for the rest of their life. yupeizuan

You had me until that quote... "I AINT GOT NO MONEY!"

MTV

erm, ban tampon adverts thats some scary s*** right there.

Just ban humans, no matter what, they'll find a way to cause harm to themselves and those around them.

::::sniff, sniff:::::.......I smell a bleeding heart liberal. I am going to leave this thread before I get some on my shoe!! :)

I listen to death metal, play violent video games and watch violent tv and movie, drink lots of hard liqour, and have premarital sex alot. I have surived 24 years without killing anybody.

There is never a rhyme or reason to a persons barbaric and tragic behavior but the person themself. A gun, knife, xbox controller, or even pencil can't kill somebody by itself, the person wielding it makes that decision.

Whenever something bad happens and videogames are a linked source of material, everyone always chases after it and wants them gone. If you think about it, the amount of damage that videogames cause compared to other things is insignificant. If videogames deserves to be banned so do cars and guns because they cause far more damage than videogames ever will. Books are greater sources of violent tendencies than video games by a factor of several times yet few people ever complain about books because they are considered to be protected by the first amendment in the United States. The thing is, videogames hardly cause any damage to society.

This is a list of all deaths said to be caused by videogames (taken from Destructoid.com). According to this list, 26 people have died in relation to videogames. These are DIRECT causes of death by videogames NOT INDIRECT. That means that person who strangled the other person with a controller would not count unless it was because of the game they were playing. If you make comparisons, videogames average maybe 2 deaths a year or 3 if you're synical about it. Spread this out throughout the time that videogames have been around and you have 1 death maybe every 4 or 5 years which is extremely low.

Apr 1999 - Columbine Massacre - 13 dead
Nov 2001 - Everquest suicide - 1 dead
Jun 2003 - Dustin Lynch - 1 dead
Jun 2003 - Devin Moore - 3 dead
Jun 2003 - Buckner brothers - 1 dead, 1 wounded
Feb 2004 - Murder of Stephen Pakeerah - 1 dead
Oct 2004 - Qiu Chengwei - 1 dead
Aug 2005 - Lee Seung Seop dies after playing Starcraft - 1 dead
Sep 2007 - Man dies in Guangzhou after 3-day binge - 1 dead
Dec 2007 - Beating in Russia - 1 dead
Oct 2008 - Brandon Crisp - 1 dead
Sep 2008 - Daniel Petric - 1 dead, 1 wounded

If you want to point out Virginia Tech, keep in mind that videogames were not related in any way in that incident. Seung-Hui Cho wrote violent literature and Sonic the Hedgechog isn't exactly the most violent character you could relate him to. His massacre was attributed to his writing and not videogames.

Alcohol:

Alcohol causes problems for the body but it also impairs judgment and the senses. For statistics, alcohol can be related to about 100000 deaths each year which is around 270 each day. Drunk driving kills people. It also makes people do things they normally wouldn't do such as beat up friends and families. Alcohol doesn't only cause violence related problems. If a guy and a girl get drunk and with their impaired judgment sleep with each other and have a child, the child is something they would be responsible for the rest of their life. Not to mention they might do other things like trash other people's property or make themselves seem like they need to be submitted to a mental institution.

Cars:

Bigger cars cause bigger deaths. A SUV is more likely to kill someone than a moped. Cars are convient for us in our every day life because it allows us to get around. On average, 100 people around the world die from a car crash EVERY day. This does not include injuries or permanent disabilities caused by these accidents. A lot of crimes also require cars to commit. Mostly the robbery types require a car but so do hit and runs and drive by shootings. Without cars these probably wouldn't happen. In one case in 2006, George Russell Weller killed 10 people in a single crash. That is almost as bad as the worst on the videogames list. Also, you can't exlcude it to a few bad drivers because videogames are generalized as well so the same case can be made about cars. Can't get to work? You better start learning how to ride a bicycle but the odds of a bicycle actually killing someone on impact is much lower than if a car hit the person. Even then chances are bicycles will still be more dangerous than videogames.

Guns:

Guns made it very easy to kill people. Just point at whatever you want to die and pull the trigger. Accidents also happen because it is too easy to use a gun. The United States has the highest death to population ratio in the world yet for some reason the neighboring country of Canada has hardly any despite having looser gun control laws. For those who argue that the United States allows guns to be owned because of the second amendment, the second amendment allows a state to form a militia (the National Guard) not for private citizens to have guns in their houses where people might hurt themselves. Around 70 people die each day because of guns in the United States. Guns also make it easier to steal and hurt others. Take away guns and people are less likely to do this.
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Ahhh, air also shoud be banned, it has obvious addictive qualities.

yupeizuan

[QUOTE="yupeizuan"]

Whenever something bad happens and videogames are a linked source of material, everyone always chases after it and wants them gone. If you think about it, the amount of damage that videogames cause compared to other things is insignificant. If videogames deserves to be banned so do cars and guns because they cause far more damage than videogames ever will. Books are greater sources of violent tendencies than video games by a factor of several times yet few people ever complain about books because they are considered to be protected by the first amendment in the United States. The thing is, videogames hardly cause any damage to society.

This is a list of all deaths said to be caused by videogames (taken from Destructoid.com). According to this list, 26 people have died in relation to videogames. These are DIRECT causes of death by videogames NOT INDIRECT. That means that person who strangled the other person with a controller would not count unless it was because of the game they were playing. If you make comparisons, videogames average maybe 2 deaths a year or 3 if you're synical about it. Spread this out throughout the time that videogames have been around and you have 1 death maybe every 4 or 5 years which is extremely low.

Apr 1999 - Columbine Massacre - 13 dead
Nov 2001 - Everquest suicide - 1 dead
Jun 2003 - Dustin Lynch - 1 dead
Jun 2003 - Devin Moore - 3 dead
Jun 2003 - Buckner brothers - 1 dead, 1 wounded
Feb 2004 - Murder of Stephen Pakeerah - 1 dead
Oct 2004 - Qiu Chengwei - 1 dead
Aug 2005 - Lee Seung Seop dies after playing Starcraft - 1 dead
Sep 2007 - Man dies in Guangzhou after 3-day binge - 1 dead
Dec 2007 - Beating in Russia - 1 dead
Oct 2008 - Brandon Crisp - 1 dead
Sep 2008 - Daniel Petric - 1 dead, 1 wounded

If you want to point out Virginia Tech, keep in mind that videogames were not related in any way in that incident. Seung-Hui Cho wrote violent literature and Sonic the Hedgechog isn't exactly the most violent character you could relate him to. His massacre was attributed to his writing and not videogames.

Alcohol:

Alcohol causes problems for the body but it also impairs judgment and the senses. For statistics, alcohol can be related to about 100000 deaths each year which is around 270 each day. Drunk driving kills people. It also makes people do things they normally wouldn't do such as beat up friends and families. Alcohol doesn't only cause violence related problems. If a guy and a girl get drunk and with their impaired judgment sleep with each other and have a child, the child is something they would be responsible for the rest of their life. Not to mention they might do other things like trash other people's property or make themselves seem like they need to be submitted to a mental institution.

Cars:

Bigger cars cause bigger deaths. A SUV is more likely to kill someone than a moped. Cars are convient for us in our every day life because it allows us to get around. On average, 100 people around the world die from a car crash EVERY day. This does not include injuries or permanent disabilities caused by these accidents. A lot of crimes also require cars to commit. Mostly the robbery types require a car but so do hit and runs and drive by shootings. Without cars these probably wouldn't happen. In one case in 2006, George Russell Weller killed 10 people in a single crash. That is almost as bad as the worst on the videogames list. Also, you can't exlcude it to a few bad drivers because videogames are generalized as well so the same case can be made about cars. Can't get to work? You better start learning how to ride a bicycle but the odds of a bicycle actually killing someone on impact is much lower than if a car hit the person. Even then chances are bicycles will still be more dangerous than videogames.

Guns:

Guns made it very easy to kill people. Just point at whatever you want to die and pull the trigger. Accidents also happen because it is too easy to use a gun. The United States has the highest death to population ratio in the world yet for some reason the neighboring country of Canada has hardly any despite having looser gun control laws. For those who argue that the United States allows guns to be owned because of the second amendment, the second amendment allows a state to form a militia (the National Guard) not for private citizens to have guns in their houses where people might hurt themselves. Around 70 people die each day because of guns in the United States. Guns also make it easier to steal and hurt others. Take away guns and people are less likely to do this.
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Ahhh, air also shoud be banned, it has obvious addictive qualities.

Johnny_Rock

haha, It's the author.

but law makers enjoy alcohol and drugs and big cars so they'll make us suffer instead.

I listen to death metal, play violent video games and watch violent tv and movie, drink lots of hard liqour, and have premarital sex alot. I have surived 24 years without killing anybody.

There is never a rhyme or reason to a persons barbaric and tragic behavior but the person themself. A gun, knife, xbox controller, or even pencil can't kill somebody by itself, the person wielding it makes that decision.

-Rivfader-

Amen.

I happen to know that in america there are more tiolet seat related deaths than there are deaths from video games.

I know that sounds stupid but it is actually true, in america more people are killed bya tiolet seat related injuries than video games.

Personally I think there are alot of things that should be banned...

[QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"][QUOTE="Jekken6"]

Anything in the wrong hands are bad, so you can't ban everything. And people will just find a way around it

krazyorange

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"] defend yourself from what? other people with guns? if they ban guns it is highly unlikely that evildoers will be running around with them in the first placekrazyorange

It's amazing to me that no one pays attention to the fact that the crime rate is always higher in the places with the most draconian gun laws. But I'm just the opposite of most. I don't want to ban anything. Legalize drugs and prostitution and tax the hell out of it and leave me alone. And look at the money they would save in the failed war against both. Oh wait I'm talking about the government, never mind.

[QUOTE="krazyorange"][QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"] list the good things you can do with gunsKh1ndjal

note. when people are criminals they tend to i dont know break the law... take away guns from non-criminals... and you can find yourself with lots of happy Criminals who still have their guns...