Thoughts of BF2, and how evil EA is!

2142 sucks..  I was god at that game and I still quit that game. Im tired of the fing bugs, I tried playing again on titan mode and omg. You stick to the floor, u still lag on the titans like no tomorrow. Im very disappointed they lock ur cd key with ur account name. This is retarded, I was a 3 star general so I quit when I lost key (which I think it was stolen). Im thinking on making my own development team soon. I feel EA ruins games for everyone, look at bf2! amazing game, I love it to death but I get more angry playing that than having fun. The new modes in 2 are just horrible now, u have noobs that leave MORES on the main walkways and just spam nades. 

The only thing wrong with bf2 when it came out was it crashed and the ranking was BS! You had to have 50k to be a corpal lol just plain wow.  Then they started to screw with the gameplay like the dolphin was sweet! I love the fact when I was medic running across enemy fire and jump to prone and shock my guy to life and pop back up and run to the next hurt player. So dolphin dive is gone but lol i have a Nostromo which makes my guns shoot faster and can make me dolphin dive again. Another, BTW im a real soldier.... How do u just take the ability of throwing c4 away? Like I said ive done this in trainning, wtf? I mean you're taking the core away from the game man. I think I talked about the mines and the claymores, wtf is this about EA? Strike on karkland was just plain ole fun man.

For the nubs that never ever played bf2 till the 1.3 patch the game was amazingly fun, it still is but it was a different world of a gameplay style. Strike was an amazing map man, it was the coolest map to actually have fire battles and actually go in the main spawn and just duke it out. You cant do this anymore :-(.. they made it where nubs abuse the claymores so they leave them in the main walk ways of fences so ppl are scared to go in. So bf2 turned into a nade spamming game, thank god im an elite sniper so I just pick them off with my rifle.  I just wish a company will give us options for the type of gameplay we want with ranked servers!

I personally feel Dice was retarded to sell all their shares to EA, Ea sports and EA games are evil as heck in the gaming world. The sad thing you gamers think they care for u and they really dont, I know most companies want money but ubi soft,ID software even valve care for the quality. Crap, look at crytek they know they can make probably billions off of 1 game by making it for the ps3,xbox360, and the pc but they choose to make an ultimate title... I can list games EA rushed and never cared to fix.

Battlefield2.. they just left it after 2142

Battlefield2142... always crashed, the titan modes lags still, so many exploits in glitches.

Madden 06... admitted they didnt care to make it good for the next gen,couldnt create a player

Madden 07.. lol just like EA still buggy and crashes, the game even lagged in the fing menu

Ncaa 07... Only 30 stadiums? No race for the heisman? wtf?

 Superman.. supposely this game was buggy to he ll

Command and Conquer 3.. for a month it was hard for ppl to login, and stay logged in. This is sad it was a pain just to get the patches to actually download from the stupid servers.

Battlefield bad company - if they go just consoles, im gonna freak out.. the series was made for the pc.

Medal of Honor series - decent but call of duty killed it. Also, did u know the IW-cod creators- were ex EA workers that were fired? shows EA they killed them in the WW2 genre.

 no, im not a hater.. I just want a powerful gaming company to care for the quality of the products they release!

I know most companies want money but ubi soft,ID software even valve care for the quality. Crap, look at crytek they know they can make probably billions off of 1 game by making it for the ps3,xbox360, and the pc but they choose to make an ultimate title... I can list games EA rushed and never cared to fix.

tomdelonge0686

ubisoft is notoriously bad for pc games recently, and id hasn't put out a quality pc title in nearly a decade - and will probably never make another good pc game

you're right about ea though - it's depressing that they turn great games series into bastardised serialisation that manage to stay popular with the massmarket due to the brandname

but this is the age of the megapublisher, and it's only going to get worse - i suggest you get used to it 

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I know most companies want money but ubi soft,ID software even valve care for the quality. Crap, look at crytek they know they can make probably billions off of 1 game by making it for the ps3,xbox360, and the pc but they choose to make an ultimate title... I can list games EA rushed and never cared to fix.

A-S_FM

ubisoft is notoriously bad for pc games recently, and id hasn't put out a quality pc title in nearly a decade - and will probably never make another good pc game

you're right about ea though - it's depressing that they turn great games series into bastardised serialisation that manage to stay popular with the massmarket due to the brandname

but this is the age of the megapublisher, and it's only going to get worse - i suggest you get used to it

He shouldn't have to "get use to" crappy software. If enough people vote with their money, EA will do something about it.  

I would like to know what MOS you are? Just so you can prove your a real soldier. Throwing C4's isn't something done in BCT and I would think that real soldiers would use better grammar and not words like noob. Also the only reason to have Battlefield 2 is for Project Reality mod. Project Reality is what Battlefield 2 should have been. With more realistic ballistic's, more realistic unit's and much more teamwork.

But really Project Reality and Battlefield have been beat by the operation flashpoint and arma:combat operations series.

ARMA:Combat operations brings very realistic gameplay. Put it's it on a huge map. Makes it so you need planning and tactics to win and gives your alot of free roam abilty. Hell I get better performance from the co-op mission of ARMA while hosting then I did with bf2.

I don't think the battlefield series is worth playing anymore. Unless you like the run and gun and lonewolf gameplay alot. EA should stop making Battlefield something it's not and let the arcadish player's have there game. Us realistic players have our PR mod and our Armed Assault.

Also sorry for going offtopic I didn't read much of your post.

He shouldn't have to "get use to" crappy software. If enough people vote with their money, EA will do something about it. ChocoKat

of course he shouldn't have to get used to it, no one likes bastardised serialisations - no one with brains wants to play a sequel that's only update is the title going from 2007 to 2008 - i wasn't defending anything

but it's just not going to happen because it relies on the massmarket to make the move, and the massmarket enjoys the drivel EA spoonfeeds them... in cultural matters, supply determines demand - not vice versa, you cannot trust in the massmarket to do anything but buy the junk on the shelves, and probably enjoy it

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I know most companies want money but ubi soft,ID software even valve care for the quality. Crap, look at crytek they know they can make probably billions off of 1 game by making it for the ps3,xbox360, and the pc but they choose to make an ultimate title... I can list games EA rushed and never cared to fix.

ChocoKat

ubisoft is notoriously bad for pc games recently, and id hasn't put out a quality pc title in nearly a decade - and will probably never make another good pc game

you're right about ea though - it's depressing that they turn great games series into bastardised serialisation that manage to stay popular with the massmarket due to the brandname

but this is the age of the megapublisher, and it's only going to get worse - i suggest you get used to it

He shouldn't have to "get use to" crappy software. If enough people vote with their money, EA will do something about it.  

I agree that something should be done, but the fact is tat BF2 and BF2142 are fun games.  Not enough people will abandon the series (just like no one will abandon the other series they own rights to) so there is no reason for them to change.

Fortunately, I feel PC gaming will soon enter a golden age.  As more and more developers lean towards console (iD software, for example) I think the void will be filled with independent developers that use their own sales and download progrms such as Steam.  I would be extremely happy if they never made another BF game, but instead we got Darwinia 2.

I have no idea what the heck you're smoking man? No more battlefield style games? See, I could make the best battlefield game ever. Hear me out on this, if u tk someone it wouldnt do -4 or -8 which is completely lame. The commander wouldnt just be able to sit there and press arty every 2-3 mins, my game would have to make a comannder feel like he's actually commanding a base. I would have to make the commander be at an outpost that is entirely made for his uses, which the game does very well but he just lays down and press bomb here and there.

I would make the game kinda like battlefield 2 in the baby stages of the game life-time cuz most people like me and the vets love the old gameplay. Don't get me wrong I love battlefield 2 but come on man, did the game really needed to be changed so much? Its like taking someone thats use to cs 1.6 and getting them use to a whole new game far more different than css. Another, I wouldnt let snipers abuse the claymores... if you have a retard which I've seen a lot of ppl in game do. They actually see the red skull, the red skull tells u ur getting close to a friendly mine. I would just make it -1 tk for someone so they wouldnt have -8 from a jerk that punishes.

Another thing I would do would have to have destructable environments like walls,houses,buildings,trees and the environment itself. I would make it where u throw nades and it blows up the ground has a huge hole in the ground like a real hole should be. I would have options for my gamers, thats the problem with some companies man no options they make you play it their new way. I feel bf2 and bf2142 was runined with lack of tanks,jets,APC,heli's,jeeps. I'm sticking to this, i quit trying to get into planes and cool stuff cuz ppl would c4 u, make u ram them, or worse hs u with a m95.

Finally, I would ask my fellow gamers what they want in the game and how I personally and my team could make it more fun for them. What ideas they would want for levels, what guns they would want to unlock... I would basically make the game balance.. I would keep the snipering just like bf2 snipering, I love their snipers.. I love the way in bf2 u need 2 hits, 1 good hit in the throat or the head to do a 1 shot kill. Where CSS lol an awp hits u in the toe and boom u die. I also would love to make blood in the game too, you I thought about bf2 only has 2 million or 4 million players the fan base isnt that big at all. 

Im a die hard battlefield player, if I made a same ****game to support 128 man maps. I would ask my fellow gamers u want to pay 5 bucks a month? so I can build massive servers for u guys? See Im not money hungry, I know I would make millions upon millions off u already from buying my product. I dont think World of Warcraft needs 13 bucks from gamers to run servers. 

 But what u think? Cuz im really thinking on making a battefield ****game..

Are you a programmer or even know any serious developers?  Do you have the tens of millions of dollars required to develop a high quality game?

Also...what MOS are you?  I was a soldier too, and was NEVER trained to throw C4...

Honestly...and sorry for sounding rude...you strike me as someone who has absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about...and maybe even a little delusional...

Are you a programmer or even know any serious developers?  Do you have the tens of millions of dollars required to develop a high quality game?

Also...what MOS are you?  I was a soldier too, and was NEVER trained to throw C4...

Honestly...and sorry for sounding rude...you strike me as someone who has absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about...and maybe even a little delusional...

dnuggs40

lol okay. You must've been army or marines cuz they just take anyone. You seem to have common sense jerk, you dont need to be trained to throw c4 to know you can throw it. It's like saying, "you know, I never trained to throw nades before" But you know you can, you just jump in the air and throw as far as you can and there you threw a nade. Samething, with a gun, you dont throw guns in trainning or get trained but you know you can by knowing its not that big and not that much in weight. In bf2 what u could do was jump up and just throw it 5-8 yards over the fence. This was awesome, but now you can't even get it over the fence.

Are you a programmer or even know any serious developers?  Do you have the tens of millions of dollars required to develop a high quality game?

Also...what MOS are you?  I was a soldier too, and was NEVER trained to throw C4...

Honestly...and sorry for sounding rude...you strike me as someone who has absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about...and maybe even a little delusional...

dnuggs40

 My MOS.. " Information Technology " sorry your army or marines doesnt have it. No wonder why you need a 30 to get those branches. They get people like you! Haha.

All I gotta say is "wtf?" tomdelong.

And out of curiosity, what would someone in Information Technology know about throwing C4 in combat?

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Are you a programmer or even know any serious developers?  Do you have the tens of millions of dollars required to develop a high quality game?

Also...what MOS are you?  I was a soldier too, and was NEVER trained to throw C4...

Honestly...and sorry for sounding rude...you strike me as someone who has absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about...and maybe even a little delusional...

tomdelonge0686

lol okay. You must've been army or marines cuz they just take anyone. You seem to have common sense jerk, you dont need to be trained to throw c4 to know you can throw it. It's like saying, "you know, I never trained to throw nades before" But you know you can, you just jump in the air and throw as far as you can and there you threw a nade. Samething, with a gun, you dont throw guns in trainning or get trained but you know you can by knowing its not that big and not that much in weight. In bf2 what u could do was jump up and just throw it 5-8 yards over the fence. This was awesome, but now you can't even get it over the fence.

You are calling me stupid...yet you can't even spell...

Not to mention you DID say you were TRAINED to do it...here...I will point it out:

"Another, BTW im a real soldier.... How do u just take the ability of throwing c4 away? Like I said ive done this in trainning, wtf?"

And for the IT thing...I am a Database Architect/Developer...IT is for people with certifications...I actually have a degree.

I apologize if I hurt your delicate feelings...but I just know when someone is obviously talking about things they really don't know anything about.

oh wow I typed it wrong. But you can throw c4.tomdelonge0686

you can throw C4, but do you?  I dont think so.

[QUOTE="tomdelonge0686"]oh wow I typed it wrong. But you can throw c4.mrbojangles25

you can throw C4, but do you?  I dont think so.

What are you talking about?!?!?!

Dont you know that is standard training for IT people in the navy?  Who do you think they call when war breaks out?  Damn right!  It's those hardcore C4 throwing Navy IT bad mofos!!!

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Are you a programmer or even know any serious developers?  Do you have the tens of millions of dollars required to develop a high quality game?

Also...what MOS are you?  I was a soldier too, and was NEVER trained to throw C4...

Honestly...and sorry for sounding rude...you strike me as someone who has absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about...and maybe even a little delusional...

dnuggs40

lol okay. You must've been army or marines cuz they just take anyone. You seem to have common sense jerk, you dont need to be trained to throw c4 to know you can throw it. It's like saying, "you know, I never trained to throw nades before" But you know you can, you just jump in the air and throw as far as you can and there you threw a nade. Samething, with a gun, you dont throw guns in trainning or get trained but you know you can by knowing its not that big and not that much in weight. In bf2 what u could do was jump up and just throw it 5-8 yards over the fence. This was awesome, but now you can't even get it over the fence.

You are calling me stupid...yet you can't even spell...

Not to mention you DID say you were TRAINED to do it...here...I will point it out:

"Another, BTW im a real soldier.... How do u just take the ability of throwing c4 away? Like I said ive done this in trainning, wtf?"

And for the IT thing...I am a Database Architect/Developer...IT is for people with certifications...I actually have a degree.

I apologize if I hurt your delicate feelings...but I just know when someone is obviously talking about things they really don't know anything about.

I can't spell? fu ck you.

And for the IT thing...I am a Database Architect/Developer...IT is for people with certifications...I actually have a degree.????? Are you a complete idiot? You get certifications for windows and such but get degrees and great job offers. I think the average income for IT comes out around 80-120 k a year to start. 

Another yeah I have good money for a server to hold that many people the machine is only 2-4 k man, money isn't an issue for me. Again, it's not really modding.. most of these fing games that come out are the same game but with different guns and how the guns fire and etc. I would take the engine that it supports and write my own code for it. Write how the guns would fire and how they would look. I honestly thought desert conflict was garbage, sad mod that should've never been released from the start. They had the right idea on making it playable for everyone but failed with the planes never reloading when it should flying over the base.

Why can't you just realize you can throw a c4 pack? how fing hard is it to realize that? Are that geeky and weak you couldnt lift it and just throw it 5 yards? shame on you.

"I think the average income for IT comes out around 80-120 k a year to start.  "

In your DREAMS!!!!! lol

"I can't spell? fu ck you. "

C'mon now...calm down.  The mods will lock this thread if it gets too hostile.

And seriously man...this latest post from you even further shows you have zero idea what you are talking about...

"I think the average income for IT comes out around 80-120 k a year to start.  "

In your DREAMS!!!!! lol

"I can't spell? fu ck you. "

C'mon now...calm down.  The mods will lock this thread if it gets too hostile.

And seriously man...this latest post from you even further shows you have zero idea what you are talking about...

dnuggs40

dude are you kidding me? you really don't think web designers don't make big money? I just made 4k  for doing a simple charter site for a friend. And I just have more references wanting me to do sites for them, also he's willing to give me another 4k for his business site. Like I said lol I know a lot of big people in business bro.. This one guy my mom was gonna marry owned TORO lawnmowers, he also wrote songs for tom petty, and 38 special and lynard skyner. A friend of mine made 80 k and she's only been doing this for like 2 years. I'm good with computers, and I'm gonna open my own business soon... I just love the military.. I'm an E4 bout to hit a 17k for another 3 yeard deal.. I know your job is more technical man.  I think your totally missing the point of me wanting to do something than I know everything and I;m gonan do it tomorrow!

I just don't like EA games or sports, I feel they rush their products just for the money and not the valve and the honor to say you know we made that. That's waht I want to do man, I wanna own a company and say you know I did something good for that person. If was gonna own my own PC shop which I decided not to it was gonna be flat rates, not what these thives charge you 79 an hr and it's only to install a psu and a motheboard. I'm more for the customers than the money, I have all the money I need to be happy.

Show me one job posting for a starting IT job that has a base salary of $80,000-$120,000.  At that income bracket, you will need 3-5 years experience, BA or equivelent experience, and specific job experience for whatever they are hiring for.  So dude...you don't know what you are talking about.

Want to know how I know?  Becuase I have hired IT people...

Here is a pretty accurate breakdown for starting salaries...mind you...these are people with degrees too...

http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/15/pf/college/starting_salaries/

There isn't a job in the world that has a average starting salary of $80k-$120k...well...at least none that I am aware of.  If there is, please tell me...I am in the wrong business then lol.

There isn't a job in the world that has a average starting salary of $80k-$120k...well...at least none that I am aware of. If there is, please tell me...I am in the wrong business then lol.

dnuggs40

There's always med-school :D

Depending on specialty, starting wages can be much higher, and usually are unless you're in FP or IM. 

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There isn't a job in the world that has a average starting salary of $80k-$120k...well...at least none that I am aware of. If there is, please tell me...I am in the wrong business then lol.

Uncle_Tbag

There's always med-school :D

Depending on specialty, starting wages can be much higher, and usually are unless you're in FP or IM. 

Well ya lol...

Actually...don't they have to do a very long intership first? 

[QUOTE="Uncle_Tbag"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

There isn't a job in the world that has a average starting salary of $80k-$120k...well...at least none that I am aware of. If there is, please tell me...I am in the wrong business then lol.

dnuggs40

There's always med-school :D

Depending on specialty, starting wages can be much higher, and usually are unless you're in FP or IM.

Well ya lol...

Actually...don't they have to do a very long intership first?

Typically 1 year internship followed by 3-5 year residency. Residency is really part of schooling though, and pays 40-55k depending on hospital.  

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="Uncle_Tbag"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

There isn't a job in the world that has a average starting salary of $80k-$120k...well...at least none that I am aware of. If there is, please tell me...I am in the wrong business then lol.

Uncle_Tbag

There's always med-school :D

Depending on specialty, starting wages can be much higher, and usually are unless you're in FP or IM.

Well ya lol...

Actually...don't they have to do a very long intership first?

Typically 1 year internship followed by 3-5 year residency. Residency is really part of schooling though, and pays 40-55k depending on hospital.  

Ah ha!

I think we could kinda consider residency their starting salary though...it is a job since they are getting paid. 

Are you a doctor by any chance?

[QUOTE="Uncle_Tbag"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="Uncle_Tbag"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

There isn't a job in the world that has a average starting salary of $80k-$120k...well...at least none that I am aware of. If there is, please tell me...I am in the wrong business then lol.

dnuggs40

There's always med-school :D

Depending on specialty, starting wages can be much higher, and usually are unless you're in FP or IM.

Well ya lol...

Actually...don't they have to do a very long intership first?

Typically 1 year internship followed by 3-5 year residency. Residency is really part of schooling though, and pays 40-55k depending on hospital.

Ah ha!

I think we could kinda consider residency their starting salary though...it is a job since they are getting paid.

Are you a doctor by any chance?

Not yet. I'm in my second year of med-school.

An M.D. without specialization is pretty worthless, unless you want to consult for a pharmaceutical or something along those lines. You can't practice any sort of medicine whatsoever without residency training, so it's really an extension of school. People right out of med-school really don't know diddly regarding the clinical application of medicine. 

wow i think i just became retarded by reading that...wait... wait... yeah, i did.

nice. 

So I'm assuming all you EA haters won't be buying Crysis because it's going to suck to much.blue_sparks

EA is a publisher that also runs inhouse development sutdios

most people who "hate" ea have no problem buying games published by ea (because all the publisher does is print the game, they don't write it - just like a book publisher doesn't write the novels it publishes)... it's the stuff developed inhouse at EA that the "haters" will avoid, because it's almost exclusively rubbish - when ea has full creative control, it's rarely a game to get excited about

but as a pure publisher, ea is just about as good as any other company

so maybe cut down on that assuming 

I own BF2142, but I've never played BF2. I want to though. Any difference between the two besides the time periods and Titan mode?

IMO,

EA > Ubisoft

Everybody's going crazy for Tiberium Wars and it's been created by EA-in house. I don't think it's all rubbish. On the other hand, the games EA publishes are simply amazing: Spore, Crysis, Hellgate London, HalfLife 2 Ep2, etc... . Ubisoft is a total disaster...just look at their "new" Endwar STRATEGY franchise, well it's coming exclusively for consoles. 

sounds to me like you're just angry because you can't dolphin dive and throw C4... you don't see real soldiers running around jumping throwing C4 all over do you?XBSHX

Apparently in his special branch of the military they do it all the time. :roll:

I guess the rules of physics are different in his world too, because the concussion effects from a brick of C-4 going off a few feet away would be pretty extreme.

Sporeunderdark944

[QUOTE="XBSHX"]sounds to me like you're just angry because you can't dolphin dive and throw C4... you don't see real soldiers running around jumping throwing C4 all over do you?Deinonych

Apparently in his special branch of the military they do it all the time. :roll:

I guess the rules of physics are different in his world too, because the concussion effects from a brick of C-4 going off a few feet away would be pretty extreme.