Tired of buggy web browsers

Just throwing this out, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

Download https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all.html

ESR builds take a FF base and only update it for security/bug patches. It is on a yearly schedule.

I stopped using Chrome because they constantly update it and make the browser unstable. I dislike the built in flash player, it's really old and crashes the whole browser sometimes for me. (That yellow bar on the top telling me shockwave has crashed?, that happens too often)

Firefox's normal build is also kind iffy, they just update it too much and I get a few random crashes here and there.

I found out about Firefox's ESR build and I've been using it for about two months now. It's way more stable than any of the other browsers except maybe Opera. Opera is nice but the bookmarks manager, synching, tab design is really weird. I used that for about two weeks and it was pretty messy.

I liked firefox best when it was on the 3.6~ release where they just focused on making it as stable as possible, and these ESR builds are even better.

Current ESR base is on FF 17, the latest stable FF right now is 22.

Firefox always had this annoying thing where if my internet lagged then it would just hang for like 30 seconds. Also, it memory leaked with its past releases way too often, including 3.5-3.6.

On the other hand I've never really had any issues with Chrome. Maybe a memory leak once a month but that's it.

Firefox was making me pull my hair out, switched to Chrome and haven't had a single problem yet.

Thanks for that, Jiggs...  been having minor but nagging issues with FF ever since they started speeding-up their updates.  I also use Chrome but find their way of saving bookmarks not to my liking, being used to have 'em at the left in FF.  Having an "Imported from Firefox" folder which you have to browse isn't my idea of a good layout...

I can't understand how so many people have issues with FF. I always use it and never have problems with it. Sure, some random website won't load properly but that happens with every browser.FelipeInside

I agree, FF is very stable for me.

Oh and I agree with jiggly, I am using Chrome at the moment and the built in flash player crashes all the time. Very annoying :evil:

Chrome has the absolute worst flash player ever. I only really use Flash when I'm on Hulu and the image either freezes while the audio continues to  play or the whole thing crashes completely. Otherwise,  I like Chrome just fine.

Alright trying it right now. Hopefully no more youtube/flash crashing.

Alright trying it right now. Hopefully no more youtube/flash crashing.

Bikouchu35

So far, so good with me... :)

I can't understand how so many people have issues with FF. I always use it and never have problems with it. Sure, some random website won't load properly but that happens with every browser.FelipeInside

It's not with FF itself but with Flashplayer.  Ever since Adobe took over it's been buggy as hell and makes FF crash, especially on Youtube.  I even had complete PC lock-ups and blue-screens from it...

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I can't understand how so many people have issues with FF. I always use it and never have problems with it. Sure, some random website won't load properly but that happens with every browser.JimmyJumpy

It's not with FF itself but with Flashplayer.  Ever since Adobe took over it's been buggy as hell and makes FF crash, especially on Youtube.  I even had complete PC lock-ups and blue-screens from it...

[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I can't understand how so many people have issues with FF. I always use it and never have problems with it. Sure, some random website won't load properly but that happens with every browser.FelipeInside

It's not with FF itself but with Flashplayer.  Ever since Adobe took over it's been buggy as hell and makes FF crash, especially on Youtube.  I even had complete PC lock-ups and blue-screens from it...

FF is set to update automatically, so I've always used the latest versions.  I did a fresh Win7 install on June 9th and still had it.  Now that I've reverted to FF ESR 17 I seem to be crash-free...

I just switched from Chrome to FF. It was mainly for security reasons. I don't like relying on Google as much. Call me paranoid, but, I like having as much anonymity as possible.

Firefox was making me pull my hair out, switched to Chrome and haven't had a single problem yet.

FaustArp

THIS. omg THIS.

I just switched from Chrome to FF. It was mainly for security reasons. I don't like relying on Google as much. Call me paranoid, but, I like having as much anonymity as possible.

soolkiki

Perfectly understandable in this day and age. Verizon is already in a scandal by letting the government go thru all their customers personal info illegally and they are getting away with it. Im all for privacy.

Just throwing this out, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

Download https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all.html

ESR builds take a FF base and only update it for security/bug patches. It is on a yearly schedule.

 

I stopped using Chrome because they constantly update it and make the browser unstable. I dislike the built in flash player, it's really old and crashes the whole browser sometimes for me. (That yellow bar on the top telling me shockwave has crashed?, that happens too often)

Firefox's normal build is also kind iffy, they just update it too much and I get a few random crashes here and there.

 

I found out about Firefox's ESR build and I've been using it for about two months now. It's way more stable than any of the other browsers except maybe Opera. Opera is nice but the bookmarks manager, synching, tab design is really weird. I used that for about two weeks and it was pretty messy.

I liked firefox best when it was on the 3.6~ release where they just focused on making it as stable as possible, and these ESR builds are even better.

Current ESR base is on FF 17, the latest stable FF right now is 22.

JigglyWiggly_

Thanks for the heads up.

I have firefox and chrome... They are both c***. Grey_Eyed_Elf

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]I have firefox and chrome... They are both c***. FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]I have firefox and chrome... They are both c***. Grey_Eyed_Elf

[QUOTE="soolkiki"]

I just switched from Chrome to FF. It was mainly for security reasons. I don't like relying on Google as much. Call me paranoid, but, I like having as much anonymity as possible.

_SKatEDiRt_

Perfectly understandable in this day and age. Verizon is already in a scandal by letting the government go thru all their customers personal info illegally and they are getting away with it. Im all for privacy.

[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

[QUOTE="soolkiki"]

I just switched from Chrome to FF. It was mainly for security reasons. I don't like relying on Google as much. Call me paranoid, but, I like having as much anonymity as possible.

soolkiki

Perfectly understandable in this day and age. Verizon is already in a scandal by letting the government go thru all their customers personal info illegally and they are getting away with it. Im all for privacy.

[QUOTE="soolkiki"]

[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

Perfectly understandable in this day and age. Verizon is already in a scandal by letting the government go thru all their customers personal info illegally and they are getting away with it. Im all for privacy.

FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="soolkiki"]I know, and Google isn't much better. I feel stupid for having all the plugins installed on my browser that blocks companies from tracking me and getting my browser info, but I just hate being profiled and targeted for anything.

soolkiki

[QUOTE="soolkiki"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Wasn't Chrome the browser that continuously sends info back to Google?FelipeInside

I think you're unaware of what the world is actually like.

My only beef with FF is it being a memory hog. But, with plenty of RAM, it's a non-issue. Plus, FF is the only browser that seem to render the web pages I make  consistently.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="soolkiki"]Yes haha More-so than others. I even use a different search engine called duckduckgo that doesn't release my I.P. Address, and it works just as well without catering the info that I get when searching. That facility they set up in Utah (if I remember right about which state) is what made me go over the edge and try to muddy my tracks.

GummiRaccoon

I think you're unaware of what the world is actually like.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="soolkiki"]Yes haha More-so than others. I even use a different search engine called duckduckgo that doesn't release my I.P. Address, and it works just as well without catering the info that I get when searching. That facility they set up in Utah (if I remember right about which state) is what made me go over the edge and try to muddy my tracks.

GummiRaccoon

I think you're unaware of what the world is actually like.

This is a cruel world and you can never be too careful.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I think ur a bit too paranoid. FelipeInside

I think you're unaware of what the world is actually like.

If you lock your car or your house when you leave it unattended, then you have no excuse for not protecting your online self.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I think you're unaware of what the world is actually like.

GummiRaccoon

If you lock your car or your house when you leave it unattended, then you have no excuse for not protecting your online self.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I well aware what the world is like, but I'm also aware that some things u just have to let go or else u don't enjoy life.FelipeInside

If you lock your car or your house when you leave it unattended, then you have no excuse for not protecting your online self.

you guys have more problems, not less.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

If you lock your car or your house when you leave it unattended, then you have no excuse for not protecting your online self.

GummiRaccoon

you guys have more problems, not less.

Well, I'm not going to be telling you to do what I did, but there is no reason to insult. It took me 20 minutes to set these things up, and what do you know, no ads, my I.P. address stays with me, Google isn't giving away my emails, and I get the same results that I did before. There's no reason to call me too paranoid when it took me a tiny bit of time to have the knowledge that I am legally safe with my personal information. The Government does not need to document me or take my information without my say so (which is actually illegal here in the states). I'm not barring myself from "enjoying life" as you say by taking precautions.

Again, you don't need to do what I did, but I don't need you insulting me for my decisions.

An article about the facility.

The biggest-ever data complex, to be completed in Utah in 2013, may take American citizens into a completely new reality where their emails, phone calls, online shopping lists and virtually entire lives will be stored and reviewed.

 

 

Uuhhh...no thanks.

Well, I'm not going to be telling you to do what I did, but there is no reason to insult. It took me 20 minutes to set these things up, and what do you know, no ads, my I.P. address stays with me, Google isn't giving away my emails, and I get the same results that I did before. There's no reason to call me too paranoid when it took me a tiny bit of time to have the knowledge that I am legally safe with my personal information. The Government does not need to document me or take my information without my say so (which is actually illegal here in the states). I'm not barring myself from "enjoying life" as you say by taking precautions.

Again, you don't need to do what I did, but I don't need you insulting me for my decisions.

soolkiki

[QUOTE="soolkiki"]

Well, I'm not going to be telling you to do what I did, but there is no reason to insult. It took me 20 minutes to set these things up, and what do you know, no ads, my I.P. address stays with me, Google isn't giving away my emails, and I get the same results that I did before. There's no reason to call me too paranoid when it took me a tiny bit of time to have the knowledge that I am legally safe with my personal information. The Government does not need to document me or take my information without my say so (which is actually illegal here in the states). I'm not barring myself from "enjoying life" as you say by taking precautions.

Again, you don't need to do what I did, but I don't need you insulting me for my decisions.

FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="soolkiki"]

Well, I'm not going to be telling you to do what I did, but there is no reason to insult. It took me 20 minutes to set these things up, and what do you know, no ads, my I.P. address stays with me, Google isn't giving away my emails, and I get the same results that I did before. There's no reason to call me too paranoid when it took me a tiny bit of time to have the knowledge that I am legally safe with my personal information. The Government does not need to document me or take my information without my say so (which is actually illegal here in the states). I'm not barring myself from "enjoying life" as you say by taking precautions.

Again, you don't need to do what I did, but I don't need you insulting me for my decisions.

soolkiki

[QUOTE="soolkiki"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I wasn't insulting dude, I was just asking why so paranoid, there's a difference. Sorry if you took it that way. I was just wondering your situation to why you need to take so many precautions. That's why I put the example of living in the US since I hear lots of stories there.FelipeInside

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I didn't say I don't protect my online self, just that some things people do are a bit extreme. There's a difference between locking my house with a key or putting 30 doors with 237 locks on it. It could be cause I live in Australia and we don't have as many problems with the spy thing as the US???FelipeInside

you guys have more problems, not less.

Just because you aren't, doesn't mean you made the right choice.  Your government has more control over your internet access than the US has here.  The reason they don't have as much here is because we cause a huge uproar. (so it may make our problem seem like it is bigger).

You say we are overreacting?  I say you are underreacting.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

you guys have more problems, not less.

GummiRaccoon

Just because you aren't, doesn't mean you made the right choice.  Your government has more control over your internet access than the US has here.  The reason they don't have as much here is because we cause a huge uproar. (so it may make our problem seem like it is bigger).

You say we are overreacting?  I say you are underreacting.

I hadn't used Firefox ESR, so I'm curious to check it out, but I've resigned myself to have to use multiple browsers no matter what. Chrome I like for the overall interface, the multi-computer sync capabilities, and Adblock although the Modern UI version blows and it sucks compared to IE on my touchscreen devices. IE I have to use for Sharepoint integration and other internally developed utilities, plus IE absolutely smokes other browsers on touchscreen devices because of native scrolling and zooming acceleration (both the Desktop and Modern UI versions fly even on Atom based devices). Firefox I use when the other two have failed me in some capacity.

-Byshop

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Really? You don't see me going all crazy about online security, or any of my friends who live here. Every time I read something about NSA or Online Security etc, it's coming from the US. I don't blame them though, the US is the most targeted country in the world, so they have to patrol as much as they can, even if it means forgetting private disclosure.FelipeInside

Just because you aren't, doesn't mean you made the right choice.  Your government has more control over your internet access than the US has here.  The reason they don't have as much here is because we cause a huge uproar. (so it may make our problem seem like it is bigger).

You say we are overreacting?  I say you are underreacting.

You should do some research on that yourself since it effects you directly.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

 

Just because you aren't, doesn't mean you made the right choice.  Your government has more control over your internet access than the US has here.  The reason they don't have as much here is because we cause a huge uproar. (so it may make our problem seem like it is bigger).

 

You say we are overreacting?  I say you are underreacting.

GummiRaccoon

You should do some research on that yourself since it effects you directly.

I hadn't used Firefox ESR, so I'm curious to check it out, but I've resigned myself to have to use multiple browsers no matter what. Chrome I like for the overall interface, the multi-computer sync capabilities, and Adblock although the Modern UI version blows and it sucks compared to IE on my touchscreen devices. IE I have to use for Sharepoint integration and other internally developed utilities, plus IE absolutely smokes other browsers on touchscreen devices because of native scrolling and zooming acceleration (both the Desktop and Modern UI versions fly even on Atom based devices). Firefox I use when the other two have failed me in some capacity.

-Byshop

Byshop

Firefox has sync too, ESR build has it too. Works fine for me.JigglyWiggly_

Yeah, I'm sure it does. Firefox got replaced by Chrome for me years ago because I was experiencing issues with the Flash plugin where I would lose audio on Youtube videos until I rebooted (killing the Firefox and Flash processes didn't do it). Since there are multiple browsers and I wasn't particularly commited to any one of them with dozens of shortcuts or tweaks, it was easier just to switch rather than spend any more time troubleshooting the issue. If I start running into problems with Chrome, then I'll check it out again.

-Byshop

Well, I'm not going to be telling you to do what I did, but there is no reason to insult. It took me 20 minutes to set these things up, and what do you know, no ads, my I.P. address stays with me, Google isn't giving away my emails, and I get the same results that I did before. There's no reason to call me too paranoid when it took me a tiny bit of time to have the knowledge that I am legally safe with my personal information. The Government does not need to document me or take my information without my say so (which is actually illegal here in the states). I'm not barring myself from "enjoying life" as you say by taking precautions.

Again, you don't need to do what I did, but I don't need you insulting me for my decisions.

An article about the facility.

The biggest-ever data complex, to be completed in Utah in 2013, may take American citizens into a completely new reality where their emails, phone calls, online shopping lists and virtually entire lives will be stored and reviewed.

 

 

Uuhhh...no thanks.

soolkiki

Your my hero XD