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For a screen 40" in size should I bite the bullet, save myself some money, and go 720p?TheSystemLord1I got a 1080p this week. Gears of war looks amazing (although it probably looks just as good on a 720p-TV...). The main reason I got a 1080p-TV is the new HD-format. HD-DVDs look phenomenal compared to regular DVDs.
Save your money. 1080p is nothing but hype in my opinion. Just like the guys at Best Buy saying that RP HDTV's are antiquated technology.BadAndy642Heh, that "hype" sure does look pretty... I have not tried to play my PC-games on my TV, but I'm sure they will look way better than on a 720p-TV (I hope most games support that resolution).
37 inches, big enough for me. :) I wanted to buy the 42-model, but it's not in stores yet and it's expensive as hell. Point is: with a great signal going into the back of your TV, you don't have to own a 50-incher to see the difference. Here is my TV: Grundig Fine Arts 37".Artur what size is your screen? And I'm sittin about 7 feet away.
TheSystemLord1
[QUOTE="BadAndy642"]Save your money. 1080p is nothing but hype in my opinion. Just like the guys at Best Buy saying that RP HDTV's are antiquated technology.artur79Heh, that "hype" sure does look pretty... I have not tried to play my PC-games on my TV, but I'm sure they will look way better than on a 720p-TV (I hope most games support that resolution).
Naturally they would, but not everyone has a computer that can display that high. But there is really no reason to have a 1080p HDTV that is smaller than 50 inches. If you like yours that is great, but to the guy buying a new HDTV, use the extra money that you saved by getting the 720p one on something like more games, surround sound, or a HD DVD player.
Heh, that "hype" sure does look pretty... I have not tried to play my PC-games on my TV, but I'm sure they will look way better than on a 720p-TV (I hope most games support that resolution).[QUOTE="artur79"][QUOTE="BadAndy642"]Save your money. 1080p is nothing but hype in my opinion. Just like the guys at Best Buy saying that RP HDTV's are antiquated technology.BadAndy642
Naturally they would, but not everyone has a computer that can display that high. But there is really no reason to have a 1080p HDTV that is smaller than 50 inches. If you like yours that is great, but to the guy buying a new HDTV, use the extra money that you saved by getting the 720p one on something like more games, surround sound, or a HD DVD player.
Well, I have not seen a 40 inch 1080p side by side with a 720p (same size) with a 1080p-signal (BR/HD-DVD), but I bet I would be able to see the difference. 1080p costs a lot of money, I agree on that one. It's not something school-kids can afford. But if you have money to buy such a TV, you probably have enough money to buy a decent PC too. It all comes down to what you are going to use your LCD for. TV and DVDs look great on a 720p, as do today's console games. So 1080p is pointless unless you have an HD-DVD-/Blueray-player or a decent GPU in your rig.[QUOTE="BadAndy642"]Heh, that "hype" sure does look pretty... I have not tried to play my PC-games on my TV, but I'm sure they will look way better than on a 720p-TV (I hope most games support that resolution).[QUOTE="artur79"][QUOTE="BadAndy642"]Save your money. 1080p is nothing but hype in my opinion. Just like the guys at Best Buy saying that RP HDTV's are antiquated technology.artur79
Naturally they would, but not everyone has a computer that can display that high. But there is really no reason to have a 1080p HDTV that is smaller than 50 inches. If you like yours that is great, but to the guy buying a new HDTV, use the extra money that you saved by getting the 720p one on something like more games, surround sound, or a HD DVD player.
Well, I have not seen a 40 inch 1080p side by side with a 720p (same size) with a 1080p-signal (BR/HD-DVD), but I bet I would be able to see the difference. 1080p costs a lot of money, I agree on that one. It's not something school-kids can afford. But if you have money to buy such a TV, you probably have enough money to buy a decent PC too. It all comes down to what you are going to use your LCD for. TV and DVDs look great on a 720p, as do today's console games. So 1080p is pointless unless you have an HD-DVD-/Blueray-player or a decent GPU in your rig.I agree 100%. But it is not how much money you have, but how you want to and choose to spend it. And I will say that my HD DVD player looks just fine on my Hitachi 51F59A displaying at 1080i, glad to see someone supporting HD DVD as well.
I agree 100%. But it is not how much money you have, but how you want to and choose to spend it. And I will say that my HD DVD player looks just fine on my Hitachi 51F59A displaying at 1080i, glad to see someone supporting HD DVD as well.
Sadly, this TV will go more for Blu-Ray probably. I hate to say it but HD-DVD just was not handled right and has probably all but lost this little format war. For evidence look no farther than the commercials for DVD and Blu-Ray Disc movies over well...the maybe 2 HD-DVD movie commercials I've seen.
Like my dad told me, "Who cares if the pimple on some guy's ass shows up clearer and more red on a TV a thousand dollars more, what else could you do with the money you used to see that pimple." Good advice...but I don't think he understands :P
Didn't want to start a new thread, but I just went to my xbox dashboard and the 1080p option is now available. It is a pre hdmi model. This option was never there before. Out of curiousity I clicked the video setting and it worked. What gives? I haven't really examined the picture, but I was under the impression I needed hdmi for 1080p.
[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]37 inches, big enough for me. :) I wanted to buy the 42-model, but it's not in stores yet and it's expensive as hell. Point is: with a great signal going into the back of your TV, you don't have to own a 50-incher to see the difference. Here is my TV: Grundig Fine Arts 37". Sorry to burst your bubble, but you are not actually seeing 1080p on your 37" set from 7' away. Sure the TV is putting out 1080p resolution, but at 7' your eyes can not tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. A same quality, same sized 720p set would look exactly the same at that distance.Artur what size is your screen? And I'm sittin about 7 feet away.
artur79
Geez, I just noticed this is a very old thread I'm wasting my time on...rastanoh well. its a pretty good subject. and it never hurts to give info for others that havent seen this thread. so....... how far would i have to set from a 40` 1080 p tv to get the best picture? i heard anyting under 50 is a waste of time and the extra money. is that true?
Didn't want to start a new thread, but I just went to my xbox dashboard and the 1080p option is now available. It is a pre hdmi model. This option was never there before. Out of curiousity I clicked the video setting and it worked. What gives? I haven't really examined the picture, but I was under the impression I needed hdmi for 1080p.
Heirren
You could of made a new thread mate.
Anyway, it's probably 1080i if not over HDMI or DVI.
Also, the xbox will simply upscale the image as it doesn't actually render 1080.
[QUOTE="rastan"]Geez, I just noticed this is a very old thread I'm wasting my time on...monson21502oh well. its a pretty good subject. and it never hurts to give info for others that havent seen this thread. so....... how far would i have to set from a 40` 1080 p tv to get the best picture? i heard anyting under 50 is a waste of time and the extra money. is that true? You can't just have a blanket statement like "anything under 50 is a waste. The reason for this is that if you sit within 6' of a 50" set, then yes you can see the difference between 720p and 1080p. However over 6', then your eyes can't see the difference even on a 50" set. This graph represents the distance you need to sit from a set size Tv to see a specific resolution: http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html
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Didn't want to start a new thread, but I just went to my xbox dashboard and the 1080p option is now available. It is a pre hdmi model. This option was never there before. Out of curiousity I clicked the video setting and it worked. What gives? I haven't really examined the picture, but I was under the impression I needed hdmi for 1080p.
Tezcatlipoca666
You could of made a new thread mate.
Anyway, it's probably 1080i if not over HDMI or DVI.
Also, the xbox will simply upscale the image as it doesn't actually render 1080.
IIRC it's that the 360 is capable of outputting 1080p over component, but most *televisions* refuse to accept 1080p over component, so the 360 detects that it's not a valid resolution and doesn't bother showing you.[QUOTE="Heirren"]
Didn't want to start a new thread, but I just went to my xbox dashboard and the 1080p option is now available. It is a pre hdmi model. This option was never there before. Out of curiousity I clicked the video setting and it worked. What gives? I haven't really examined the picture, but I was under the impression I needed hdmi for 1080p.
Tezcatlipoca666
You could of made a new thread mate.
Anyway, it's probably 1080i if not over HDMI or DVI.
Also, the xbox will simply upscale the image as it doesn't actually render 1080.
[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
Didn't want to start a new thread, but I just went to my xbox dashboard and the 1080p option is now available. It is a pre hdmi model. This option was never there before. Out of curiousity I clicked the video setting and it worked. What gives? I haven't really examined the picture, but I was under the impression I needed hdmi for 1080p.
shawty1984
You could of made a new thread mate.
Anyway, it's probably 1080i if not over HDMI or DVI.
Also, the xbox will simply upscale the image as it doesn't actually render 1080.
VERY few games render at 1080. I never said it couldn't output 1080, it upscales. Halo 3: 640p; CoD4: 600p. Most games render at 720p.
Also very few TV's can display 1080p over component. That is the opposite with HDMI/DVI.
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]
You could of made a new thread mate.
Anyway, it's probably 1080i if not over HDMI or DVI.
Also, the xbox will simply upscale the image as it doesn't actually render 1080.
Tezcatlipoca666
VERY few games render at 1080. I never said it couldn't output 1080, it upscales. Halo 3: 640p; CoD4: 600p. Most games render at 720p.
Also very few TV's can display 1080p over component. That is the opposite with HDMI/DVI.
[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
The 360 can output native 1080p.shawty1984
VERY few games render at 1080. I never said it couldn't output 1080, it upscales. Halo 3: 640p; CoD4: 600p. Most games render at 720p.
Also very few TV's can display 1080p over component. That is the opposite with HDMI/DVI.
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]
VERY few games render at 1080. I never said it couldn't output 1080, it upscales. Halo 3: 640p; CoD4: 600p. Most games render at 720p.
Also very few TV's can display 1080p over component. That is the opposite with HDMI/DVI.
KHAndAnime
Yea, he's wrong, but what difference does it make - his point remains and 360 games aren't 1080P. The difference between 360 being able to output 1080P is absolutely nil. ;)[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
You said it doesnt render 1080. It does render 1080, you were wrong. Regardless at how often it does, the main point is it can and does, hence you were wrong.shawty1984
I'm aware that most games are sub "hd" and that things are upscaled to 1080p. My query was more how I'm getting 1080p through component. I thought it was restricted because it's unprotected.
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Yea, he's wrong, but what difference does it make - his point remains and 360 games aren't 1080P. The difference between 360 being able to output 1080P is absolutely nil. ;)
KHAndAnime
Old topic should be locked and all tvs are 1080p now days. X360PS3AMD05
No they are not.rastanwell they are alot cheaper now. and seem to get even cheaper every year. kinda makes getting a 720 p tv kinda pointless this day in age imo.
[QUOTE="rastan"]No they are not.monson21502well they are alot cheaper now. and seem to get even cheaper every year. kinda makes getting a 720 p tv kinda pointless this day in age imo.
Also, the point that is often missed is that often 720p sets will look better with 720p material-aka your cable TV feeds and 360/ps3 than an upconverted 1080p signal as the upconversion can add it's own problems. Fortunately there are some good upscalers out there, but they are not usually found in low end sets. You need only look at what your sd material looks like upconverted to higher resolutions to see the more obvious issues with upscaling.rastanDisagree, the TV is just garbage. Will have to depend on the source, only thing i know of is Fox which is garbage HD in the first place, 1080 is the way to go and i already owned a 768p plasma. If upconversion is creating problems then have a different device take care of it, won't be noticeable, but watching a Blu-ray on a big screen probably will. 8) I saw 52'' 1080p LCDs and 60'' 1080p DLPs for $700, so i think this whole debate is pretty much over.
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