Overall Total War because of the real time battles. Although I have never played any of the Civ games I can guess the turned based part is better because that is what it is focused around.
Have to go with Total War, as well. It's an amazing gameplay experience. Civ is fun in it's own right, but it's kind of an acquired taste. I remember I almost took Civ II back the day after I purchased but decided to give it one last crack before I did... and quickly became addicted. But any of the games since, where as I've purchased every Total War game since Rome. Can't get enough of Total War.
CIV has a better turn based part, but the battles in TW are AMAZINGLY better than any battle in Civ games ever were... redbaron3
my thoughts exactly. the battles, or lack thereof in Civ makes it a bit lacking IMO, but thats not what Civ is about I know. But the rock paper scissor and the animations are not exactly a reason I use to play Civ. both fun games though and looking forward to empire, and Civ V
I like Civ IV better. The combat in Total War doesn't really do much for me actually. Maybe it's that the AI does some rather funny crap such that I basically never lose unless I am grossly outnumbered. Supposedly the battles are tactical, but I find that battles tend to pan out in more or less the same manner most of the time. I kind of wish there were no real time battles in the series actually. I know they can be skipped, but then I'll just lose more units, or I might even lose the battle where I would have easily won by letting the AI do its usual predictably stupid maneuvers if I had actually played it. So, that is supposed to be the big draw of the series. Now onto the turn based portion...
The interface for the Total War games is rather bad in some kind of obvious ways. I don't like the way diplomacy works in the game at all; it's just more tedious micromanagement. There is no easy way to cycle through your noncombat units. The easiest method is to go into the menu and pick them all individually, which is just really dumb. There are some other problems with the game's controls and interface that one would think they would have resolved after five games, but I can't remember all of them right now.
Even if Total War was Turn Based only... it would still be better... in TW units have different strengths and weaknesses... units gain veterency and upgrades to perform better... every faction was unique as far as units/structures and objectives... Civ was not... every faction has the same units... every unit has a strength and a weakness (riflemen > artillery > tanks > riflemen etc... it just went in a circle) and all factions have the same units... all factions are the same apart from bonuses (like US has better production than others/Britain has better naval units)... apart from the bonuses... everything was the same... Civ was a good game 20 years ago... but if you make the same game over and over with no changes for 20 years... that is bad...
Even if Total War was Turn Based only... it would still be better... in TW units have different strengths and weaknesses... units gain veterency and upgrades to perform better... every faction was unique as far as units/structures and objectives... Civ was not... every faction has the same units... every unit has a strength and a weakness (riflemen > artillery > tanks > riflemen etc... it just went in a circle) and all factions have the same units... all factions are the same apart from bonuses (like US has better production than others/Britain has better naval units)... apart from the bonuses... everything was the same... Civ was a good game 20 years ago... but if you make the same game over and over with no changes for 20 years... that is bad...
Squeets
If you really think that Civ IV is the same as the first game, or even the same as Civ III, I have to say that I think that you, sir, are crazy.
Overall Total War because of the real time battles. Although I have never played any of the Civ games I can guess the turned based part is better because that is what it is focused around.flacracker173
Considering the fact that he is only asking about the turn-based parts of the games... I would say Civ, because since Civ is ultimately only a turn-based game it has a lot more depth in that field, while Total War(depending on how recent the game is) usually doesn't. But it is still up to what you prefer. In Total War you actually move armies around the campaign, but in Civ you move maybe a max of like 15 (which would be considered an Army to me in that game). Now Civ also focuses at keeping your Civilization under control rather than fighting where as (at least in Rome) it was basically fighting and you could have almost everything automated, which could end up making the game an RTS with an end turn button, depending on if you liked to manually do stuff with towns or not. I wouldn't say i like one over the other because it would depend on what i want to do. The want to play Civ is entirely different than the want to play Total War so it is hard to say which one i really like more.
Civilization is better than Total War any day. Total War has more realistic real time battles but if you are upto matured turn based strategy game - then go for Civ series.
Total War episodes are more entertaining for me because battles are in great quality. Civilization series looks more like board game. Mz vote is for Total War.
Total War. I love Civ, but I still cannot get past the fact that the Civ battles are basically just random, you can do your best and still get pwned by the enemy just because you got unlucky, I can't stand that. On the other side, a little more depth on the campaign map would do TW a lot of good, but I think that's taken care of with Empire. :)
They are both fun in their own way, I think. Civ IV is great because of the strategy involved, and haven't found another game wtih better AI. Total War is cool because of the big real time battles of massive amount of unites. I am a little disappointed with the AI, however. Definitely a great game, though. I just wish I had my copy with me to play with and with Empire: TW around the corner, not going to buy another copy of Medieval 2.
Total War for me. I've been playing it for years-I love the real time battles and building an empire. Always fun to me, I could probably go back and play any of the Total War games and enjoy it as much as the day I was playing it.
Log in to comment