Trying to build a somewhat futureproofed rig

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#1 gearsofhalogeek
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At the moment Im building a gaming rig and trying to futureproof it a bit. I admit, I havent built a rig for almost a decade, and feel like a noobie again. How much life can i expect from this setup? im hoping at least 5 years.

EVGA Clasified SR2 Mobo (forgive spelling- profanity filter:oops: )

12-2 gig corsair ram

1500w silverstone PSU

4-Nvidia GeForce EVGA 570

1- 1TB caviar blue WD HDD

1- 80 gig Intel SSD (only using for OS)

2- Intel Xeon E5620 Quad Core Server Processors

1- Lite on Blu Ray burner

Custom case from Mountain Mods

Im also thinking about liquid cooling the video cards and processors, would this kit work with this setup?

I already have the Mobo, ram, and blu ray, and just ordered the case, HDD, SDD and PSU.

What do you guys think? will this setup get 5 years?

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Sorry to say this but its a waste of money. The way tech moves you will be lucky to have top ended hardware to stay above the average for about three years. Water cooling isnt need also. I would get only 8gb of memory, get a I7 2600K cpu(much faster then the cpu you selected), and just pick up a HAF X case and just pick up one GTX 570 for now and pick up one later on down the road. Because in three years top ended Pc hardware such as the cpu and gpu power will be most likely at least 3x faster

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#3 C_Rule
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Lol, wow. I don't know what else to say...
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#4 Tezcatlipoca666
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Dude no. Get this instead:

-P67 mobo (LGA 1155)

-i5 2500k CPU or i7 2600k (the i7 will not be of much use for gaming making the i5 better value in a gaming rig)

-2x4GB DDR3 RAM

-2xHD 6970 or 2xGTX 570

-950W Corsair PSU

-2x1TB WD Caviar Black (raid 0 them)

-blu-ray burner

-nice mid-tower case with good airflow (HAF 932, Antec 1200, etc)

Windows 7 64-bit OEM

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And no, making a rig last 5 years (games still playable at high settings) is not feasible without updates after 2-3 years.

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it's better to spend a more modest amount now and upgrade later on. you'll probably save money as opposed to throwing it all down now, too.
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#6 gearsofhalogeek
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Sorry to say this but its a waste of money.
The way tech moves you will be lucky to have top ended hardware to stay above the average for about three years. Water cooling isnt need also.
I would get only 8gb of memory, get a I7 2600K cpu(much faster then the cpu you selected), and just pick up a HAF X case. 04dcarraher
the EVGA Sr2 ****fied is a very large MOBO (13.6 inches long 15 inches wide) not to mention the case needs 10 pci slots to utilize 4 way sli. These are the only chasis that support it without modification (and even some of these need modified)
* Lian Li PC-V2120
* Mountain Mods U2-UFO, Extended U2-UFO, Ascension, Extended Ascension, Pinnacle 18 or Pinnacle 24 with HPTX tray assembly
* Lian Li PC-P80
* Danger Den Black-Series - LDR - Tower 29
* LittleDevil PC-V10

from the EVGA forums (supported chasis)

The SR2 only supports, Intel 5600 and 5500 sockets, . I prefer using video cards instead of a processor with glorified integrated graphics built into it.

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Dude no. Get this instead:

-P67 mobo (LGA 1155)

-i5 2500k CPU or i7 2600k (the i7 will not be of much use for gaming making the i5 better value in a gaming rig)

-2x4GB DDR3 RAM

-2xHD 6970 or 2xGTX 570

-950W Corsair PSU

-2x1TB WD Caviar Black (raid 0 them)

-blu-ray burner

-nice mid-tower case with good airflow (HAF 932, Antec 1200, etc)

Windows 7 64-bit OEM

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And no, making a rig last 5 years (games still playable at high settings) is not feasible without updates after 2-3 years.

Tezcatlipoca666

Add a SSD and then he's good to go.

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#8 Adam_the_Nerd
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The best way to futureproof yourself in my opinion is to get a motherboard with ample RAM slots, a high bus speed, and space for multiple videocards - then upgrade every 3 years or so. I mean, the server processors, the 24GB of RAM, and a solid state hard drive will not "future proof" your computer. Unless you're rendering videos or hosting multiple virtual servers or something, most of what you have there is a complete waste.
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#9 gearsofhalogeek
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it's better to spend a more modest amount now and upgrade later on. you'll probably save money as opposed to throwing it all down now, too.paullywog
you may be right, i might just go with one processor and one geforce gtx 580 until i start seeing the framerates drop then sli 3 more when the time comes and buy the extra processor then.
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#10 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="paullywog"]it's better to spend a more modest amount now and upgrade later on. you'll probably save money as opposed to throwing it all down now, too.gearsofhalogeek
you may be right, i might just go with one processor and one geforce gtx 580 until i start seeing the framerates drop then sli 3 more when the time comes and buy the extra processor then.

Dude... You don't need a dual socket mobo for gaming. Just use a Sandy Bridge CPU.
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#11 jtcraft
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The dual cpu mobo's (which is what the SR-2 is) are not meant for gaming. I don't know of any games that will use both cpu's. I'm not sure you can go 4-way SLI with the 570. That may be a feature for the 480 and 580. I know you could only do Tri-SLI with the 470.
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At the moment Im building a gaming rig and trying to futureproof it a bit. I admit, I havent built a rig for almost a decade, and feel like a noobie again. How much life can i expect from this setup? im hoping at least 5 years.

EVGA Clasified SR2 Mobo (forgive spelling- profanity filter:oops: )

12-2 gig corsair ram

1500w silverstone PSU

4-Nvidia GeForce EVGA 570

1- 1TB caviar blue WD HDD

1- 80 gig Intel SSD (only using for OS)

2- Intel Xeon E5620 Quad Core Server Processors

1- Lite on Blu Ray burner

Custom case from Mountain Mods

Im also thinking about liquid cooling the video cards and processors, would this kit work with this setup?

I already have the Mobo, ram, and blu ray, and just ordered the case, HDD, SDD and PSU.

What do you guys think? will this setup get 5 years?

gearsofhalogeek

And how much will this cost?

When it comes to a futureproof rig, cost and years have an exponential relationship. Put cost on the y axis, and years on the y axis. Once you get to a certain cost, perhaps $2000 for example, any extra funds spent on the PC will only increase the life of the PC by shorter periods of time.

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#13 gearsofhalogeek
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Dude no. Get this instead:

-P67 mobo (LGA 1155)

-i5 2500k CPU or i7 2600k (the i7 will not be of much use for gaming making the i5 better value in a gaming rig)

-2x4GB DDR3 RAM

-2xHD 6970 or 2xGTX 570

-950W Corsair PSU

-2x1TB WD Caviar Black (raid 0 them)

-blu-ray burner

-nice mid-tower case with good airflow (HAF 932, Antec 1200, etc)

Windows 7 64-bit OEM

.

And no, making a rig last 5 years (games still playable at high settings) is not feasible without updates after 2-3 years.

Tezcatlipoca666

well ive already got the mobo, and ram (wife got it for me as a christmas present), and the case, power supply and HDD and SSD are in the mail. So im locked into those choices already. im just wondering if the processors and videocards i chose, but havent bought yet, in your guys opinion, how much mileage i could get out of them if i choose to get them.

(and i know i dont need liquid cooling, but i plant to eventually overclock, when the time comes)

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#14 gearsofhalogeek
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[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="paullywog"]it's better to spend a more modest amount now and upgrade later on. you'll probably save money as opposed to throwing it all down now, too.C_Rule
you may be right, i might just go with one processor and one geforce gtx 580 until i start seeing the framerates drop then sli 3 more when the time comes and buy the extra processor then.

Dude... You don't need a dual socket mobo for gaming. Just use a Sandy Bridge CPU.

yeah, i know its not need for gaming, i already got it as a. christmas present, so im going to use it. wouldnt you? and im not really impressed with what i have read about the sandy bridge, it sounds like just a new fangled integrated graphics, or am i mistaken?
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#15 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

:?

Dude no. Get this instead:

-P67 mobo (LGA 1155)

-i5 2500k CPU or i7 2600k (the i7 will not be of much use for gaming making the i5 better value in a gaming rig)

-2x4GB DDR3 RAM

-2xHD 6970 or 2xGTX 570

-950W Corsair PSU

-2x1TB WD Caviar Black (raid 0 them)

-blu-ray burner

-nice mid-tower case with good airflow (HAF 932, Antec 1200, etc)

Windows 7 64-bit OEM

.

And no, making a rig last 5 years (games still playable at high settings) is not feasible without updates after 2-3 years.

gearsofhalogeek

well ive already got the mobo, and ram (wife got it for me as a christmas present), and the case, power supply and HDD and SSD are in the mail. So im locked into those choices already. im just wondering if the processors and videocards i chose, but havent bought yet, in your guys opinion, how much mileage i could get out of them if i choose to get them.

(and i know i dont need liquid cooling, but i plant to eventually overclock, when the time comes)

Damn, what waste. This is why I don't let people choose computer gear for me.

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#18 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"] you may be right, i might just go with one processor and one geforce gtx 580 until i start seeing the framerates drop then sli 3 more when the time comes and buy the extra processor then.

Dude... You don't need a dual socket mobo for gaming. Just use a Sandy Bridge CPU.

yeah, i know its not need for gaming, i already got it as a. christmas present, so im going to use it. wouldnt you? and im not really impressed with what i have read about the sandy bridge, it sounds like just a new fangled integrated graphics, or am i mistaken?

You are mistaken, very mistaken. And no, I probably wouldn't use it, I'd rather sell it and get something better.
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[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="C_Rule"] Dude... You don't need a dual socket mobo for gaming. Just use a Sandy Bridge CPU.C_Rule
yeah, i know its not need for gaming, i already got it as a. christmas present, so im going to use it. wouldnt you? and im not really impressed with what i have read about the sandy bridge, it sounds like just a new fangled integrated graphics, or am i mistaken?

You are mistaken, very mistaken. And no, I probably wouldn't use it, I'd rather sell it and get something better.

Agreed. By buying Server parts, you have spent far more than you needed to. You could have gotten an i7, an excellent mobo, and had some more money for a gpu.

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#21 gearsofhalogeek
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[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]

[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

:?

Dude no. Get this instead:

-P67 mobo (LGA 1155)

-i5 2500k CPU or i7 2600k (the i7 will not be of much use for gaming making the i5 better value in a gaming rig)

-2x4GB DDR3 RAM

-2xHD 6970 or 2xGTX 570

-950W Corsair PSU

-2x1TB WD Caviar Black (raid 0 them)

-blu-ray burner

-nice mid-tower case with good airflow (HAF 932, Antec 1200, etc)

Windows 7 64-bit OEM

.

And no, making a rig last 5 years (games still playable at high settings) is not feasible without updates after 2-3 years.

C_Rule

well ive already got the mobo, and ram (wife got it for me as a christmas present), and the case, power supply and HDD and SSD are in the mail. So im locked into those choices already. im just wondering if the processors and videocards i chose, but havent bought yet, in your guys opinion, how much mileage i could get out of them if i choose to get them.

(and i know i dont need liquid cooling, but i plant to eventually overclock, when the time comes)

Damn, what waste. This is why I don't let people choose computer gear for me.

hey im not complaining. it was extremely thoughtful of her to give me a gift that she thought would interest me and that i would use, instead of something she knew i couldnt.
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#22 gearsofhalogeek
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="C_Rule"] Dude... You don't need a dual socket mobo for gaming. Just use a Sandy Bridge CPU.

yeah, i know its not need for gaming, i already got it as a. christmas present, so im going to use it. wouldnt you? and im not really impressed with what i have read about the sandy bridge, it sounds like just a new fangled integrated graphics, or am i mistaken?

You are mistaken, very mistaken. And no, I probably wouldn't use it, I'd rather sell it and get something better.

yeah, i do that, and i got the couch for a month. no thanks. to take a gift and sell it is very insensitive. why would i? i used to like building systems, and plan to enjoy building this one. So, in your opinion, whats so great about the new sandy bridges?
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#23 jtcraft
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If you already have most of the parts then go for that cpu. Though you might get better advice about those cpu's at a different hardware forum. There aren't a whole lot of people on this board that are using the Xeon cpu's. Some other forums like overclock.net, extremesystems.org, or Guru 3d forums would probably have people that could give you better advice on the Xeon cpu's. I would say just go for two (or possibly three) GTX 570's rather than 4 (which I'm not sure that the 570's can do quad SLI).
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The new sandy bridges are much much faster than their predecessors from the P55 chipset. The 2500k and 2600k overclock VERY VERY easily, and can rival the i7 980x extreme in gaming performance. I hear they can go over 4ghz on regular air cooling with no heat issues. Less power consumption also.
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"] yeah, i know its not need for gaming, i already got it as a. christmas present, so im going to use it. wouldnt you? and im not really impressed with what i have read about the sandy bridge, it sounds like just a new fangled integrated graphics, or am i mistaken? Urworstnhtmare

You are mistaken, very mistaken. And no, I probably wouldn't use it, I'd rather sell it and get something better.

Agreed. By buying Server parts, you have spent far more than you needed to. You could have gotten an i7, an excellent mobo, and had some more money for a gpu.

well, again, the mobo was a gift, as was the ram, and the blu ray. the moneys not an issue, as ive stated a few times already, this thread was not meant to be recommendation to buy other stuff because its cheaper, it was meant to gauge an estimate the mileage i might be able to get in year/months/days of the items listed in the original post. I do thank you all for your recommendations though.
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#26 deathxxshark
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I think you should go to the EVGA forums. They have a section dedicated to the SR-2. You should be able to find a lot more help there. No one really uses the SR-2 for gaming though, as no games will use 12 cores. The SR-2 was made for for just pro overclockers who wanted to set records (hence the name "super record - 2") or people who run folding@home. Its hard to tell how much gaming mileage you'd get out of this, but I would say probably not much more than the gaming mileage you would get off a regular i7 build with 3 gtx570s.
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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="C_Rule"] You are mistaken, very mistaken. And no, I probably wouldn't use it, I'd rather sell it and get something better.gearsofhalogeek

Agreed. By buying Server parts, you have spent far more than you needed to. You could have gotten an i7, an excellent mobo, and had some more money for a gpu.

this thread was not meant to be recommendation to buy other stuff because its cheaper, it was meant to gauge an estimate the mileage i might be able to get in year/months/days of the items listed in the original post. I do thank you all for your recommendations though.

Well then....let me just rip out my crystal ball and tell you how much Years, Months and Days you will get out of this gaming rig. :roll:

Seriously though the answer is infinity amount of time. You will get as much years as possible out of this rig until your standards become higher as newer tech comes out. Once you notice the performance of the rig slowing down, and you find it impossible to max out games (if those are your standards). Than this might be the time you upgrade/build a new PC.

No one here can tell you the exact amount of time you'll get out of this rig (as i've already stated before) but just by estimation here i'm claiming 3-4 years easily. BUT please do go Sandy Bridge, it's meant for gaming purposes ;)

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#28 mucgoo
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2500k+ duel 570 should be lasting 3 years and will cost have the price. Then you can used the saved money+ plus the resale money on your next upgrade.
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2500k for gaming rig (2600k IF doing photoshop, movie editing etc)

Asus P8P67 Pro

4-8GB's Corsair Vengeance RAM (its 1.5v so best for SB memory controller)

GTX570-GTX580 or ATI equivalent

1000w Antec PSU

Samsung F3 1TB HDD

Crucial C300 SSD

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

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#30 emperorzhang66
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Either get SB or wait for Bulldozer or even the 2011 socket. don't get anything on an old socket since it will all be replaced soon and their pretty much maxed performance. Whats average on a new socket now has the potential to be triple the speed of current rigs when you plan to upgrade.
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#31 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="emperorzhang66"]Either get SB or wait for Bulldozer or even the 2011 socket. don't get anything on an old socket since it will all be replaced soon and their pretty much maxed performance. Whats average on a new socket now has the potential to be triple the speed of current rigs when you plan to upgrade.

This is also good advise, I approve!
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i just hope you didn't get that WC kit because if you did not i would say go for the Swiftech Ultima+

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#33 middle-earth88
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At the moment Im building a gaming rig and trying to futureproof it a bit. I admit, I havent built a rig for almost a decade, and feel like a noobie again. How much life can i expect from this setup? im hoping at least 5 years.

EVGA Clasified SR2 Mobo (forgive spelling- profanity filter:oops: )

12-2 gig corsair ram

1500w silverstone PSU

4-Nvidia GeForce EVGA 570

1- 1TB caviar blue WD HDD

1- 80 gig Intel SSD (only using for OS)

2- Intel Xeon E5620 Quad Core Server Processors

1- Lite on Blu Ray burner

Custom case from Mountain Mods

Im also thinking about liquid cooling the video cards and processors, would this kit work with this setup?

I already have the Mobo, ram, and blu ray, and just ordered the case, HDD, SDD and PSU.

What do you guys think? will this setup get 5 years?

gearsofhalogeek

Buy four 6970's instead. Those cards have 2gb of GDDR5 which may be more future proof.

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#34 wis3boi
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Might as well put that stuff to use and run a few servers off of that....lol

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At the moment Im building a gaming rig and trying to futureproof it a bit. I admit, I havent built a rig for almost a decade, and feel like a noobie again. How much life can i expect from this setup? im hoping at least 5 years.

EVGA Clasified SR2 Mobo (forgive spelling- profanity filter:oops: )

12-2 gig corsair ram

1500w silverstone PSU

4-Nvidia GeForce EVGA 570

1- 1TB caviar blue WD HDD

1- 80 gig Intel SSD (only using for OS)

2- Intel Xeon E5620 Quad Core Server Processors

1- Lite on Blu Ray burner

Custom case from Mountain Mods

Im also thinking about liquid cooling the video cards and processors, would this kit work with this setup?

I already have the Mobo, ram, and blu ray, and just ordered the case, HDD, SDD and PSU.

What do you guys think? will this setup get 5 years?

gearsofhalogeek

Why would you buy a CPU server? Just wondering ? :D