turning my piece of poop pc into a decent one

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#1 akdiuuuryttt
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ok so heres what i got

radeon x1950

pentium D processor

so yea just by this you can tell that my motherboard is going to also be a piece of crap. i already got a new power supply that was like 200 bucks just because the old one broke. and i got 4gb of ram which is fine. ive made threads like this before, but now i can actually order things online

so what do u guys think? just get new graphics card, mother board, and processor and ill be good. i just want to play the original crysis on medium-high on 60 fps. so cheapest possible while still being as good as possible for how cheap it can be.. ty

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#2 Truth_Hurts_U
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Your best off starting over and if your PSU is any good that would be the only thing to keep.
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#3 akdiuuuryttt
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why though? im fine with my ram and my dvd drives. fine with the fan 2.

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#4 Truth_Hurts_U
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Pentium D is super old. You would need to prob replace just about everything in your PC. Most mother boards these days only come with sata connectors and no IDE. Your RAM would be incompatable with new boards as well.
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#5 akdiuuuryttt
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wow ok its not like ram costs a lot. and yea pentium d is crap as hell but i would just replace it like i said in the OP

pentium d is a prossesor

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#6 Truth_Hurts_U
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It really would not be worth your time to fiddle with it. I'm guessing by your video card that your system was built around 2006? If so, You might be using DDR memory. Possibly DDR2. Your drives are more then not IDE. What you could do is buy an old board with CPU and ram installed. If you wanted to stay legacy.
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alright well i dont really know what im talking about then. lets just say i keep my case and power supply. what do you think is the cheapest possible but at the same time the best possible for how cheap it is. i already got a brand new monitor and have a mouse and nice keyboard. im thinking about just going looking further down in this forum through to see if theres similar threads to mine

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#8 adamosmaki
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keep the power supply, case,hard drive and Dvd drive You are gonna need motherboard, cpu ,Gpu and RAM ( you have ddr2 and only ddr3 works with new mobos the last 3-4years ) I'd say about 150-160 for a quad core fx4100 and an Am3+ motherboard add about 35-40 for 4gb of Ram and about 100-130 for a decent gpu like a 6770 or 6850 and for about 300 you got a pretty good pc
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#9 ionusX
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It really would not be worth your time to fiddle with it. I'm guessing by your video card that your system was built around 2006? If so, You might be using DDR memory. Possibly DDR2. Your drives are more then not IDE. What you could do is buy an old board with CPU and ram installed. If you wanted to stay legacy.Truth_Hurts_U
pentium D's were generally paired with ddr2 ram. its salvageable. so is the ahrd drive and optical drive.

truth.. much here is actually salavageable. get an am2+/am3 motherboard, get yourself an athlon II x3, get yourself a enw gpu.. bam tc is in buisness

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#10 kungfool69
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if ti was LGA 775 and ur mobo bios is compatible, u could jump to a second hand core 2 duo e6600 or similar.

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#11 smokerope187
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Your best off starting over and if your PSU is any good that would be the only thing to keep.Truth_Hurts_U
or hdd
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#13 smokerope187
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better off just getting a prebuilt.

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-CM1740-US-2AD-ASUS-CM1740-US-2AD-Desktop/dp/B007B5PVK6/ref=sr_du_1_map?ie=UTF8&qid=1335115278&sr=8-1

556$ freeshipping

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#14 ionusX
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better off just getting a prebuilt.

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-CM1740-US-2AD-ASUS-CM1740-US-2AD-Desktop/dp/B007B5PVK6/ref=sr_du_1_map?ie=UTF8&qid=1335115278&sr=8-1

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lol no.. he would be in fact regressing in certain aspects. while the cpu is alot better his gpu would be noticeably worse.

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#15 smokerope187
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[QUOTE="smokerope187"]

better off just getting a prebuilt.

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-CM1740-US-2AD-ASUS-CM1740-US-2AD-Desktop/dp/B007B5PVK6/ref=sr_du_1_map?ie=UTF8&qid=1335115278&sr=8-1

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ionusX

lol no.. he would be in fact regressing in certain aspects. while the cpu is alot better his gpu would be noticeably worse.

lies x1950 is terribly dated
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]It really would not be worth your time to fiddle with it. I'm guessing by your video card that your system was built around 2006? If so, You might be using DDR memory. Possibly DDR2. Your drives are more then not IDE. What you could do is buy an old board with CPU and ram installed. If you wanted to stay legacy.ionusX

pentium D's were generally paired with ddr2 ram. its salvageable. so is the ahrd drive and optical drive.

truth.. much here is actually salavageable. get an am2+/am3 motherboard, get yourself an athlon II x3, get yourself a enw gpu.. bam tc is in buisness

the most reasonable and price sensitive advice in this thread.

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#17 Truth_Hurts_U
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the most reasonable and price sensitive advice in this thread.GummiRaccoon
There is no point in doing a "minor" upgrade. You can get a store bought PC for $500 with better specs then old tech. Just swap the PSU and grab a video card.
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#18 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="smokerope187"]

better off just getting a prebuilt.

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-CM1740-US-2AD-ASUS-CM1740-US-2AD-Desktop/dp/B007B5PVK6/ref=sr_du_1_map?ie=UTF8&qid=1335115278&sr=8-1

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smokerope187

lol no.. he would be in fact regressing in certain aspects. while the cpu is alot better his gpu would be noticeably worse.

lies x1950 is terribly dated

but is still pretty pungent. 1950 = hd 2900xt. ill assure you, you can do alot with a 2900xt

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]the most reasonable and price sensitive advice in this thread.Truth_Hurts_U
There is no point in doing a "minor" upgrade. You can get a store bought PC for $500 with better specs then old tech. Just swap the PSU and grab a video card.

All I ever do are minor upgrades. And going from a pentium D to an athlon II x3 is no minor upgrade.

for 250 bucks he can have a pretty decent rig.

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All I ever do are minor upgrades. And going from a pentium D to an athlon II x3 is no minor upgrade. for 250 bucks he can have a pretty decent rig.GummiRaccoon
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Piano-Black-Inspiron-620-Desktop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i3-2120-Processor-4GB-Memory-500GB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium-Monitor-Not-Inclu/19590889 Swap PSU and get a GPU... Less head ache and much better tech. Much better off going a few hundred more and getting a store bought PC.
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#21 ionusX
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]the most reasonable and price sensitive advice in this thread.GummiRaccoon

There is no point in doing a "minor" upgrade. You can get a store bought PC for $500 with better specs then old tech. Just swap the PSU and grab a video card.

All I ever do are minor upgrades. And going from a pentium D to an athlon II x3 is no minor upgrade.

for 250 bucks he can have a pretty decent rig.

yeah

mobo $75:http://www.amazon.com/Biostar-Motherboard-A780L3G-Express2-Microatx/dp/B004HCPMPK/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1335150486&sr=8-5

cpu $78:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103886

gpu $90:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161395

=$243 before handling (shipping already calculated)

tc already has a good enough power supply. carry over your ram sticks and the rest of your computer.. you have yourself one heck of a union of old and new

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klveJSpUse8

heres a rough idea of expected preformance:

GTA IV: Episiodes for liberty city: high
Starcraft II: Wings of liberty: high

Warhammer 40000, dawn of war II: retribution: maximum

battlefield: bad company 2: high

Stalker: call of pripyat: maximum with SSAO (as opposed to hbao)

Crysis: high

metro 2033: high

Call of Duty: modern warefare 3: Maximum

the elder scrolls chapter 5: skyrim: high - maximum

Saints row: the third: high

when you can afford something more meaty just go buy a phenom II x4/x6 off tigerdirect and a non-reference cooler, more ram and a new gpu to absolutely dominate next gen console ports

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alright well i dont really know what im talking about then. lets just say i keep my case and power supply. what do you think is the cheapest possible but at the same time the best possible for how cheap it is. i already got a brand new monitor and have a mouse and nice keyboard. im thinking about just going looking further down in this forum through to see if theres similar threads to mine

akdiuuuryttt

what i recommend is getting a celeron g520, it beats alot of the AMD cpus for gaming and it only costs $50 sometimes $40 :O Then get an intel z68 motherboard, 4gigs of ram and a radeon 6770.

so that is $50 + $100 + $30 + $100 = $280, throw in an extra $20 for a dvd burner and you got a pretty decent setup. The best part of this build is the fact that you can upgrade the cpu to an ivy bridge processor down the road....

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=406

The gaming results are seriously pathetic imo. AMD needs to step up seriously.

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#23 ionusX
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[QUOTE="akdiuuuryttt"]

alright well i dont really know what im talking about then. lets just say i keep my case and power supply. what do you think is the cheapest possible but at the same time the best possible for how cheap it is. i already got a brand new monitor and have a mouse and nice keyboard. im thinking about just going looking further down in this forum through to see if theres similar threads to mine

blaznwiipspman1

what i recommend is getting a celeron g520, it beats alot of the AMD cpus for gaming and it only costs $50 sometimes $40 :O Then get an intel z68 motherboard, 4gigs of ram and a radeon 6770.

so that is $50 + $100 + $30 + $100 = $280, throw in an extra $20 for a dvd burner and you got a pretty decent setup. The best part of this build is the fact that you can upgrade the cpu to an ivy bridge processor down the road....

im not doubting you but i want proof of a 40 dollar celery and benchmarks he would then also need to consider ram ( a 40 dollar investment for anything worthwhile) and im going to doubt his power supplys ability to handle a 6770. or for that matter if it would fit into the price. your math looks to me more like

52 (cpu celeron g530)+ 28 (ram 4gb ddr3, patriot or amd)+ 60 (mobo asrock icafe)+110 (6770 HiS or Powercolor)+60 (psu rosewill 500 watt)= $310 and we havent even discussed shipping or handling yet

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#24 blaznwiipspman1
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="akdiuuuryttt"]

alright well i dont really know what im talking about then. lets just say i keep my case and power supply. what do you think is the cheapest possible but at the same time the best possible for how cheap it is. i already got a brand new monitor and have a mouse and nice keyboard. im thinking about just going looking further down in this forum through to see if theres similar threads to mine

ionusX

what i recommend is getting a celeron g520, it beats alot of the AMD cpus for gaming and it only costs $50 sometimes $40 :O Then get an intel z68 motherboard, 4gigs of ram and a radeon 6770.

so that is $50 + $100 + $30 + $100 = $280, throw in an extra $20 for a dvd burner and you got a pretty decent setup. The best part of this build is the fact that you can upgrade the cpu to an ivy bridge processor down the road....

im not doubting you but i want proof of a 40 dollar celery and benchmarks

the cpu is actually the g620 but in reality its pretty close performance wise to the g520

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=406

and here is teh cpuhttp://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06MNHJ/

cost $42 canadian, dunno how much it costs in the states