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#1 jstamm33
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I have a x2 550be, and when I unlock the 3rd and 4th cores, it works great right up until I start playing BFBC2. Then my comp shuts off. Is this due to cpu temps or what? I used to play it with the cores unlocked too.

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#2 ravenguard90
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Have you been checking your temperatures? And how much voltage are you running through your chip? Unlocked chips tend to require a bit more voltage to keep things going.

If that doesn't work, then your situation is probably caused by the same reason that led to those cores being locked. Unlocked cores may not show signs of instability until later on. I would suggest you try relocking those cores and see if that helps.

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#3 hofuldig
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I have a x2 550be, and when I unlock the 3rd and 4th cores, it works great right up until I start playing BFBC2. Then my comp shuts off. Is this due to cpu temps or what? I used to play it with the cores unlocked too.

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you do know that when you unlock the other 2 cores you are supposed to lower the CPU speed by about 1 or 200 MHz. my friend got the 550BE to and when in standard dual core mode its something like 3.1GHz but when it gets unlocked we but all the cores to -2 so it comes out at like 3GHz even. it wont even boot unless we do this.
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#4 jun_aka_pekto
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Thank goodness I only have one core to unlock (Phenom II X3 720BE). It's been six months and so far so good. It's survived repeated gameplay in both FSX and Crysis/Warhead, both hogs of a game esp FSX which is CPU-bound. Hopefully my CPU won't suffer the same fate.

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#5 jstamm33
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[QUOTE="jstamm33"]

I have a x2 550be, and when I unlock the 3rd and 4th cores, it works great right up until I start playing BFBC2. Then my comp shuts off. Is this due to cpu temps or what? I used to play it with the cores unlocked too.

hofuldig
you do know that when you unlock the other 2 cores you are supposed to lower the CPU speed by about 1 or 200 MHz. my friend got the 550BE to and when in standard dual core mode its something like 3.1GHz but when it gets unlocked we but all the cores to -2 so it comes out at like 3GHz even. it wont even boot unless we do this.

how exactly do i lower the ghz
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#6 JigglyWiggly_
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lower the speed of your hyper transport bus.
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#7 kilerchese
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No offense, but if you know nothing of overclocking you shouldn't of have bought a dual core CPU to unlock the other two cores to save yourself some money.

You should of just bought a quad core to start off with to save yourself the hassle.

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#8 jstamm33
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No offense, but if you know nothing of overclocking you shouldn't of have bought a dual core CPU to unlock the other two cores to save yourself some money.

You should of just bought a quad core to start off with to save yourself the hassle.

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I'm not a noob with computers and overclocking. I just didn't have the money for a quadcore. And I bought this processor with the intent to eventually overclock it. I'm just trying to figure out if there is a program (other than bios) to underclock it once I have the other cores unlocked. Is there a program like AMD overdrive that can do this?
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#9 JigglyWiggly_
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Why? The BIOS is the most straight forward.

Just because the GUI is crap, and it isn't inside Windows, doesn't mean it's not good.

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#10 kilerchese
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No offense again, but you just made two contradicting posts.

You say your not a noob with computers and overclocking, but you don't even know how to lower the speed of your CPU.

FYI, most overclockers, like myself and other people from the Extreme Overclocking Forums, will tell you the best way to overclock is to use the BIOS.

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#11 JigglyWiggly_
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No offense again, but you just made two contradicting posts.

You say your not a noob with computers and overclocking, but you don't even know how to lower the speed of your CPU.

FYI, most overclockers, like myself and other people from the Extreme Overclocking Forums, will tell you the best way to overclock is to use the BIOS.

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lol overclocking is redic easy, no need to scare him away from it. It's just dialing in numbers and praying
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#12 jstamm33
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Why? The BIOS is the most straight forward.

Just because the GUI is crap, and it isn't inside Windows, doesn't mean it's not good.

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okay, ill do that. But could someone give me a step by step guide, on after unlocking the 3rd and 4th cores, to lower it from 3.1 to like 2.8?
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#13 kungfool69
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is it too late to return it for an AMD athlon II x4 620....? they are CHEAP!

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The two cores on my 550 BE died around 3 months ago... there's a reason why they were locked, its now running as a dual core at 3.5GHz and in all honesty I don't believe I have noticed anything different in terms of performance for me to want to upgrade to a quad core any time soon the 550 will do for another year or so.
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#15 djdarkforces
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its all down to ur luck when u unlock the other 2 cores some people are lucky and dont have a problem some people cant get em stable most of the time its luck

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#16 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

Why? The BIOS is the most straight forward.

Just because the GUI is crap, and it isn't inside Windows, doesn't mean it's not good.

jstamm33
okay, ill do that. But could someone give me a step by step guide, on after unlocking the 3rd and 4th cores, to lower it from 3.1 to like 2.8?

Depends on your BIOS, and I've never owned an amd, but I'd imagine they just have another phoenix bios. Should be in like advanced section, click something to manual, and change the hyper transport frequency.
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You have to realize that the cores are usually deactivated for a reason. Given your situation, I suggest trying to play that game with the CPU at it default configuration and see if it still happens. Because, I would think that a bad core would cause the system to freeze, not turn off. If the PC still shuts off, then something else is wrong with your system, if not then it has to be one or both of those unlocked cores.

You can try underclocking the CPU, but I suggest to try it as an X3 CPU, first. You may still be able to overclock it, by activated only 1 core instead of 2.

I have a 555 X2, and I have it working like an X3, currently. I too had problems activating all the 4 cores. Flash applications inside the Internet Browser would randomly freeze up my PC with the 2 extra cores unlocked. But it works fine with only 1 extra core unlocked. What I find strange though is that it doesn't matter which of the 2 deactivated cores, I activate for it to quit freezing. Which make me think that it's not so much a bad core problem, but that the bios/motherboard just can't handle unlocking 2 extra cores. I bought the cheapest AM3 motherboard I could find.... a $60 dollar ASrock board. I guess, I got what I paid for.

As for your question of how to underclock the CPU, easiest way would be to lower the multiplier.

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#18 jstamm33
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You have to realize that the cores are usually deactivated for a reason. Given your situation, I suggest trying to play that game with the CPU at it default configuration and see if it still happens. Because, I would think that a bad core would cause the system to freeze, not turn off. If the PC still shuts off, then something else is wrong with your system, if not then it has to be one or both of those unlocked cores.

You can try underclocking the CPU, but I suggest to try it as an X3 CPU, first. You may still be able to overclock it, by activated only 1 core instead of 2.

I have a 555 X2, and I have it working like an X3, currently. I too had problems activating all the 4 cores. Flash applications inside the Internet Browser would randomly freeze up my PC with the 2 extra cores unlocked. But it works fine with only 1 extra core unlocked. What I find strange though is that it doesn't matter which of the 2 deactivated cores, I activate for it to quit freezing. Which make me think that it's not so much a bad core problem, but that the bios/motherboard just can't handle unlocking 2 extra cores. I bought the cheapest AM3 motherboard I could find.... a $60 dollar ASrock board. I guess, I got what I paid for.

Threesixtyci
How do I unlock just one extra core?
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#19 Threesixtyci
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How do I unlock just one extra core? jstamm33
Your bios may not be the same as mine. But on my bios it was just under the ACC option of off/auto/on. Had an option under the ACC that showed different core configurations. Can't really remember it by memory, but on my bios the cores were labeled as Core 0, Core 1, Core 2, and Core 3. I figured that the default cores were Core 0 and Core 1 (because it was the only configuration to activate duel cores) and that Core 2 and Core 3 were the deactivated ones. The ACC options on my bios had these fiver options: Core 0, Core 0/1, Core 0/1/2, Core 0/1/3, and Core 0/1/2/3. So, I was able to activate 3 cores, by choosing either Core 0/1/2, or Core 0/1/3. Also, that extra option selection would only activate if I turned ACC on. If I set the ACC to Auto those options were be grayed out. And of course if ACC was set to OFF (which is the default for ACC) it would also, be grayed out.
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#20 jstamm33
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[QUOTE="jstamm33"]How do I unlock just one extra core? Threesixtyci
Your bios may not be the same as mine. But on my bios it was just under the ACC option of off/auto/on. Had an option under the ACC that showed different core configurations. Can't really remember it by memory, but on my bios the cores were labeled as Core 0, Core 1, Core 2, and Core 3. I figured that the default cores were Core 0 and Core 1 (because it was the only configuration to activate duel cores) and that Core 2 and Core 3 were the deactivated ones. The ACC options on my bios had these fiver options: Core 0, Core 0/1, Core 0/1/2, Core 0/1/3, and Core 0/1/2/3. sounds exactly like my bios... ill give it a shot when I get home tonight from work, and report back with the results. Thanks So, I was able to activate 3 cores, by choosing either Core 0/1/2, or Core 0/1/3. Also, that extra option selection would only activate if I turned ACC on. If I set the ACC to Auto those options were be grayed out. And of course if ACC was set to OFF (which is the default for ACC) it would also, be grayed out.

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#21 gmaster456
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No offense, but if you know nothing of overclocking you shouldn't of have bought a dual core CPU to unlock the other two cores to save yourself some money.

You should of just bought a quad core to start off with to save yourself the hassle.

kilerchese
My thoughts exactly saving $30 bucks isn't worth the hassle in my opinion
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#22 jstamm33
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I went into ACC in my bios, and the options are (auto, disabled, all cores, per core) and then (normal, hybrid) the then there is core0, core1,core2, and core3 with 2% next to all of them, what do i do?

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I went into ACC in my bios, and the options are (auto, disabled, all cores, per core) and then (normal, hybrid) the then there is core0, core1,core2, and core3 with 2% next to all of them, what do i do?

jstamm33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huKVYW4duiU

Watch the vid, it should tell you everything you need to know (well its mainly just about unlocking but if you maybe missed a step the first time around, it may help).

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#24 Threesixtyci
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I went into ACC in my bios, and the options are (auto, disabled, all cores, per core) and then (normal, hybrid) the then there is core0, core1,core2, and core3 with 2% next to all of them, what do i do?

jstamm33
I know the listing you are talking about (I just left mine at -2%), but there is another listing on my bios either above that one or under it (don't remember). Anyway, our bios' are not the same, because I don't have anything on mine listed as hybrid or normal. So, either it's buried somewhere else on you bios or your bios just doesn't have the option for it. Anyway, on the bright side, most games don't take advantage of multi-core CPU's. And a duel core should be able to overclock easier than a quad core.