Unreal Engine 4 wtf?

What do you mean "we have Crytek?" Look Here. Crytek is no longer making PC exlusives, so THEY ARE MAKING GAMES FOR CONSOLES. Why would they do that? Because they have WAAAAAYY more copies of CRYSIS pirated than they sold! PC gaming pirates are destroying their own platfrom from the inside out.
woolybear777

Considering you dug this up from early March I think we had Crytek then. Besides that, piracy is just an excuse to drop out of platform exclusivity in favor of selling more games. Saying you were drove out by piracy sounds much nicer than "Hey, guys! I know you're our loyal fans and all... but f*** you! We're a company and our primary goal is money so say bye-bye to exclusivity!"

maybe a year ago, i would've agreed with you 100%, but after a few months ago, i finally realized how pc gaming is dieing. most of games for windows are remakes of console games. I still agree with you that CE2 looks more realistic than Unreal 3 engine, but y else is it called the unreal 3 engine? its made to be unreal. CE2 engine's face detail is mainly for humans, while unreal 3 engine is used on humans and several made up species... and robots. Unreal 3 engine was made for variety, thats why its used in so many games, the engine is easy to use, and is flexible. CE2 engine, on the other hand is time consuming, but the end result is stunning...oh, and bty, i switched from pc gaming to console about a few months ago, i couldnt find any games i like on the pc, and i dont wanna spend hundreds on upgrading my pc,every year so i can play new games. I beileve the collapse of the pc gaming industry is probably because of piracy. Game developers arent making as much as they would, cause a lot of people out there dont wanna pay for their video games...almost forgot, cry engine2 is making it to ps3 and 360, and is expected to run at nearly highest pc settings-for crysis-says ign. they are working on 2 games for pc, that run CE2, and are planning on future projects. so sorry all you pc gamers, consoles have won this round.
pmanruled

Go back to your console.. and meanwhile i'll get ready to play the upcoming PC exclusives:

Starcraft 2

Dawn of War 2

STALKER: Clear Skies

I won't keep going because this post will end up being really really long.. but its not hard to see how many upcoming PC exclusive games there are.. so don't troll here.

I've no idea why people seem so surprised by this. Any game company whose focus is creating an engine (as opposed to focusing on creating a finished game) will have to be focusing on all existing platforms. Hell that's already the case with Unreal Engine 3. Look at how many titles uses the engine, and look at how many of those games have been released on consoles!

What that link really says is "we're not completely brain dead; we're going to focus on ensuring that our next product actually has something useful to offer our potential customers". One of the biggest benefits of using the Unreal Engine 3 is that it makes it fairly easy to release your title on multiple platforms.

Any company that that seeks to sell their engine to other companies in the future is going to make sure that their engine is multiplatform capable. Any company developing engines for s ingle platform need their head examined. (Hell look at how 'successful' Crytech has been licencing their engine compared to Epic).

As for the people using this as a way to argue that 'the PC is dead'.. Just how many outsourced development engines are you seeing out there that only support the X360 or the PS3?

It's not the PC thats dying, it's the idea of platform exculsivity thats dying.

unreal 3 engine is ugly. Geow is ugly! small map with blurry background to hide the limitation of the engine.

http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2007/007/928234_20070108_screen001.jpg

look at the tree on the right and how blurry the whole thing is.

Unreal 4 engine will be an engine for the next gen console, by the time we will have the cry-engine 3 that will make the poor console peasant cry when they will see how the pc master race will laugh at their 8th generation. ;)

Franko_3

Yeah i hate blurry games my eyes hurt lol

And yes engine use smart ways to hide its limitations.

unreal 3 engine is ugly. Geow is ugly! small map with blurry background to hide the limitation of the engine.

http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2007/007/928234_20070108_screen001.jpg

look at the tree on the right and how blurry the whole thing is.

Unreal 4 engine will be an engine for the next gen console, by the time we will have the cry-engine 3 that will make the poor console peasant cry when they will see how the pc master race will laugh at their 8th generation. ;)

Franko_3

exactly. The engine can do NPCs very well (look at Mass Effect) but thats about it... the environments are just awful.

almost forgot, cry engine2 is making it to ps3 and 360, and is expected to run at nearly highest pc settings-for crysis-says ign. pmanruled

If you use just a little brain you will see how its imposible

JUST LOOK AT lets say PS3's configuration. it uses GPU chip from nvidia series 7*** its procesor is somewhat ~ 3 ghz and it doesnt have enough ram.

on other hand you have PC's that are 5 times more powerful and strugle to run game on "nearly highest". And yes there is "secret highest" that cant be run on todays computers

ugh, ive been over Epic since Gears of War. That game was great for two hours, then it sucks once you get over the "wow" factor.

If they want to belittle themselves for the sake of consoles, let them. THat opens up more room for newer, more ambitious developers to make games for PC.

ugh, ive been over Epic since Gears of War. That game was great for two hours, then it sucks once you get over the "wow" factor.

If they want to belittle themselves for the sake of consoles, let them. THat opens up more room for newer, more ambitious developers to make games for PC.

mrbojangles25

Money corrupt people

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...and Unreal Engine 5 focuses on the PC... :(

Seriously Epic needs to get off their high horse and come back down to earth.

...and support the PC like had in the past.

Franko_3

but but they will lose their lamborghini :roll:

I dunno what the point to have that much money. If I had a gaming studio that would be making million seller game, I would just support my game to death, like Valve and Paradox, and throw the rest in a lake. I know that having 200 000$ car and 1 million $ house would never make me happy.

Says you. Lol jk. :P

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[QUOTE="pmanruled"]almost forgot, cry engine2 is making it to ps3 and 360, and is expected to run at nearly highest pc settings-for crysis-says ign. emzeesquared

If you use just a little brain you will see how its imposible

JUST LOOK AT lets say PS3's configuration. it uses GPU chip from nvidia series 7*** its procesor is somewhat ~ 3 ghz and it doesnt have enough ram.

on other hand you have PC's that are 5 times more powerful and strugle to run game on "nearly highest". And yes there is "secret highest" that cant be run on todays computers

And maybe you should have posted in this thread after Crysis 2 was released on PC and also on consoles, you know just so you could prove that most of them were wrong. lol

But you are somewhat right about Crytek, and I also wonder who will we fight in Crysis 2, just the aliens or are the North Koreans also invading? They said that they were inspired by I Am Legend, so who knows, maybe the aliens will infect US soldiers with some virus so you won't fight just the aliens.

No comment about your first sentence, but in this case he is right, but those settings aren't secret, they're just the full potential of Crysis. Crytek said they'll enable those settings through a patch when we'll have hardware that is powerful enough, I do not know how hard it is to accomplish, but unless it's extremely easy, I doubt they'll bother with a game that by that time, it'll probably be 6 years old, maybe more.

Secondly, check the date of this thread, there was no actual data about Crysis 2 or CE 3 at that time.

In case you didn't explore Crysis, it isn't much of a sandbox game, it's linear, very, not corridor shooter linear but linear nonetheless. We do not know how linear the 2nd one will be, it might even be a whole city with checkpoints, not level based as the first one so let's not get ahead of ourselves with the assumptions, all we know so far is the plot and suit functions.

Don't know about you, but it was a memorable game for me, not because it was groundbreaking in terms of gameplay (does it have to be?) but because it felt like a real PC game, not like console games. Believe it or not I was actually a hater, I used to bash it with every occasion, but I played it a 2nd time and it was great, superb even.

I actually like the alien part, for me it was by far the best section of Crysis, the Korean part was lame.

No doubt Crytek is famous for graphics, but I also love the gameplay they supply, and it's getting better (FC was mediocre and filled with lots of stupid decisions, that one really got it's praise only for graphics, of course difficulty too, but that was one of the bad points, one of the stupid decisions).

I'm actually OK with the engine being console focused, it will be light on my PC.rmfd341

I'm actually OK with the engine being console focused, it will be light on my PC.rmfd341

[QUOTE="rmfd341"]I'm actually OK with the engine being console focused, it will be light on my PC.not_wanted

[QUOTE="rmfd341"]I'm actually OK with the engine being console focused, it will be light on my PC.not_wanted

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[QUOTE="rmfd341"]I'm actually OK with the engine being console focused, it will be light on my PC.DanielDust

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[QUOTE="rmfd341"]I'm actually OK with the engine being console focused, it will be light on my PC.millerlight89

UE 3 wasn't impressive and UE4 probably won't be either. Every UE3 FPS game looked damned similar. GodLovesDead

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]UE 3 wasn't impressive and UE4 probably won't be either. Every UE3 FPS game looked damned similar. gamer620

I doubt it. Only if they'll go the same way as this gen. If they'll to go for DX11 hardware then yes, you're right.

not_wanted

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[QUOTE="not_wanted"] I doubt PCs will be able to compete with the next gen consoles in the first year so most likely you'll need latest hardware.

not_wanted

[QUOTE="not_wanted"]I doubt it. Only if they'll go the same way as this gen. If they'll to go for DX11 hardware then yes, you're right.

millerlight89

lol but that would mean they would do a Wii 2.0 sort of thing. If they go for DX 11 by the time they are released, I guess late 2012, PC will most likely have DX 12.

not_wanted

[QUOTE="DanielDust"] I hope you know that PCs already had the Geforce 8 series at that time. millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="DanielDust"] I hope you know that PCs already had the Geforce 8 series at that time. not_wanted

The Gforce 8 series of cards were released in November 2006 the same month that the PS3 was released in the US :-

G80 release date

With regards to the Xbox 360 that has a "slightly altered" X1900XT equivalent card. So the xbox 360 was released in November 2005 and the X1900XT was released on the PC in January 2006 (a whole 2 month difference). So I think it is hard to support the "consoles were ahead of the PC" statement really.

According to Wiki, the PS3 was launched on Nov 11, 2006 and used a modified 7800GTX. The GeForce 8 series launched on Nov 8, 2006.

Anyone care to dispute these data?

If you are over 18 and still playing on console *exclusively* you are a noob.

Its a fact, with my opinion to back it up. Consoles are for noobs, that like noob games. The PC will never die, we may get games fewer and farther between, we will still get games.

Hopefully people un-noob themselves and realize the PC is a supreme gaming machine.

Another nail me thinks lol

If you are over 18 and still playing on console *exclusively* you are a noob.

Its a fact, with my opinion to back it up. Consoles are for noobs, that like noob games. The PC will never die, we may get games fewer and farther between, we will still get games.

Hopefully people un-noob themselves and realize the PC is a supreme gaming machine.

haberman13

If you are over 18 and still playing on console *exclusively* you are a noob.

Its a fact, with my opinion to back it up. Consoles are for noobs, that like noob games. The PC will never die, we may get games fewer and farther between, we will still get games.

Hopefully people un-noob themselves and realize the PC is a supreme gaming machine.

haberman13

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

If you are over 18 and still playing on console *exclusively* you are a noob.

Its a fact, with my opinion to back it up. Consoles are for noobs, that like noob games. The PC will never die, we may get games fewer and farther between, we will still get games.

Hopefully people un-noob themselves and realize the PC is a supreme gaming machine.

o0squishy0o

Yup, driving noobs.

wow, ue3 was focused on consoles... why the surprise? It will look nice while keeping the console limitations in mind, and it will continue to impress everyone but me.

GoW wasn't a bad game...played fine with M and KB....just wasn't a geat game. And all UE based games do look the same....and it doesn't support AA. You have to force AA and hope it sticks...just look at Bioshock 1 and 2. Both games need AA badly even at 19x12 ( assuming they ever fix the WS problem )....don't see how consolers put up with jaggies. AA support should be standard by now.... But if I never saw GoW 2 for the PC I wouldn't loose any sleep....OgreB

Unreal 3 does support AA, the devs just need to program it in, look at mirrors edge for example.\

EDIT: Bioshock 1/2 use a modified unreal 2.5 engine known as vengeance

And not all UE3 games are alike