Upgrading laptop video card!!

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#1 arvind_ramki
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Can I upgrade my HP laptop which has intel acc X1300 graphics and put in an 8400 card in thr??

Can someone tell me how to put in a new video card into my laptop??

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#2 sabbath2gamer
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you cant upgrade a laptop video card
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#3 yoyo462001
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you cant upgrade video cards on laptops (literally on like 0.001% of laptop could probably have video card upgraded) best bet is to add more RAM and see where that gets you in terms of performance.
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#4 hoser_eh
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not according to some. my Hp laptop dv6000 has a intel 950 GMA graphics card and somebody said it could be upgraded i just don't know how or where and even if i can for sure. Anyone ine this area of expertise that could answer would be helpful. thanks.
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#5 DGFreak
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You think we're lying? It's integrated onto your motherboard; it cannot be replaced.
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#6 SearchMaster
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not according to some. my Hp laptop dv6000 has a intel 950 GMA graphics card and somebody said it could be upgraded i just don't know how or where and even if i can for sure. Anyone ine this area of expertise that could answer would be helpful. thanks.hoser_eh
you did say it on your own. Intel graphics are intergrated which means theres no way to upgrade it
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#7 Kiwi_1
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(Added in edit) My apology to the OP on this. I got fixated on the mention of the Intel IGP (I really hate those crappy POS's!)

Only if you are both extremely lucky and knew enough to pay extra to have it available (in which case you would already have at least a "Medium" level video circuit board included in the PC, and you probably wouldn't need to ask us about upgrades), would your laptop be suitable for an upgrade. The percentages are that roughly 95 of every 100 laptops sold have only the IGP chips, and none of those are ever upgradeable. Out of the remaining five per hundred, 4.9 would have had the video circuit board made into a permanent part of the laptop. It can't come out, so nothing new can go in.

When you have paid the cost to have a separate video card be removable, the only place you can get a higher performance card is the original factory that assembled your laptop. If you did have such a rare machine, you could ship it to the factory, and they would perform the upgrade there. That's the only way it works for NEW cards. There are used, salvaged parts from old laptops sold occasionally on Amazon and eBay, but you are taking a gamble buying that way, and you need to be highly skilled in tech before starting to follow that route (and once again, it's a case that you would have to have one of the very rare laptops with removeable cards).

Intel graphics are intergrated which means theres no way to upgrade itSearchMaster

In case anyone with a desktop PC happens to read this, the above is totally accurate about a laptop. When the PC is a desktop running on its IGP (onboard graphics chip), in the majority of cases, some sort of video bus interface usually is available, sitting empty. Pay attention when I say this: for 3D games, you MUST have a real video bus. Plain PCI is a slow, shared non-video bus that runs at half the base speed of AGP, and doesn't allow video accelleration, so that there are IGPs from ATI and nVIDIA that are better than the typical plain PCI cards, meaning not good enough.

The presence of a real video bus isn't a guarantee, of course, since there are laptop-equivalent desktop PCs made particularly cheaply, that do not have a real video interface in them, because it's less expensive to produce that way (was much more common in the AGP bus era, due to the comparatively higher cost of AGP over PCI-e{16} ). If such a junker has plain PCI slots, THOSE DON'T COUNT.

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#8 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="SearchMaster"]Intel graphics are intergrated which means theres no way to upgrade itKiwi_1

In case anyone with a desktop PC happens to read this, the above is totally accurate about a laptop. When the PC is a desktop running on its IGP (onboard graphics chip), in the majority of cases, some sort of video bus interface usually is available, sitting empty.

Not always true, of course, since there are equivalent desktop PCs made particularly cheaply that do not have a real video interface in them, because it's less expensive to produce that way (was much more common in the AGP bus era, due to the comparatively higher cost of AGP over PCI-e{16} ).

i was just about to post something on the lines of thise but kiwi has basically said everything you need to know..for anyone reading this who doesn't have a PCI-e or AGP slot, there are always PCI slots which you can put a graphics card in (not high end GPus though).
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#9 Jacobistheman
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Can I upgrade my HP laptop which has intel acc X1300 graphics and put in an 8400 card in thr??

Can someone tell me how to put in a new video card into my laptop??

arvind_ramki

Upgrading your laptop is just like upgrading a mac.

Throw it in the trash and buy a new one.

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#10 Kiwi_1
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I have added an edit to my reply, and apologized to the OP for overlooking his own question at first. His answer is now appended; as is a rebuttal of sorts.

Please, everyone, do not ever confuse the noobs about what plain PCI slots are all about. The ATI/AMD Xpress200 onboard chip offers better performance than the best PCI-only card, because it actually has the PCI-e bus going for it, so it is far faster. Even the rather weak nVIDIA nForce 6100/ 6150 IGPs are better than a plain PCI card, no matter if it's an 8500 GT (and one such part is supposed to exist). That level of performance is OK for an MMO, because those have such low requirements, but not for ordinary current game releases.

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#11 El-Rey-Del-Flow
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My Laptop has a 7150m but i want a 8400m too
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#12 Kiwi_1
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My Laptop has a 7150m but i want a 8400m tooEl-Rey-Del-Flow

An 8400 is as poor as the onboard chips are. There wouldn't be enough improvement to cover driving to Best Buy to pick up a free one if they were giving them away, at today's high fuel costs. The HD 2400 and Geforce 8400 are darn close to being total crap -- pretty much in the same extra poor quality bracket as any ordinary Intel video chip!

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#14 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="El-Rey-Del-Flow"]My Laptop has a 7150m but i want a 8400m tooKiwi_1

An 8400 is as poor as the onboard chips are. There wouldn't be enough improvement to cover driving to Best Buy to pick up a free one if they were giving them away, at today's high fuel costs. The HD 2400 and Geforce 8400 are darn close to being total crap -- pretty much in the same extra poor quality bracket as any ordinary Intel video chip!

No they arent any way near as bad as on-board chips.
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#15 Kiwi_1
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Don't be silly!

The minimum for gaming is a "600". When we look at what a proper gaming card can do, it is so proportionately superior to a crappy HD 2400 / 8400 GS, that those two junkers most certainly are "Extra VERY Low Quality", unlike the Geforce 7300 GS and GT of last year, and the X1300s, all of which had the same Medium Level memory system as the GF 8600 GT and the Radeon X1650 XT do (128 Bits wide, not merely 64).

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#16 Spybot_9
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Don't be silly!

The minimum for gaming is a "600". When we look at what a proper gaming card can do, it is so proportionately superior to a crappy HD 2400 / 8400 GS, that those two junkers most certainly are "Extra VERY Low Quality", unlike the Geforce 7300 GS and GT of last year, and the X1300s, all of which had the same Medium Level memory system as the GF 8600 GT and the Radeon X1650 XT do (128 Bits wide, not merely 64).

Kiwi_1

While what you are saying is totally correct I just wanted to point out that the 8400GS is definitely much better than intel integrated graphics.

That does not mean the 8400GS is good for gaming I know that.

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#17 TheSystemLord1
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This is why I've chosen to wait and see if Dell ever makes the 9600 or 9650 available on their laptops...laptop GPU's are just too fussy to mess with.