Upgrading PC not worth it anymore because of Piracy?

Well I like PC alot, and I am planning on buying a new fully upgraded PC with a Cuad and graphics card. I will focus my computer into gaming as much as animation and 3D rendering, but MAC has impressed me on that field. Dont get me wrong, a PC I would feel more safe into getting but after hearing all the rumors about Piracy and PC gaming collapsing has kinda frighten me into getting a PC =[ I am not sure if even buying a fully loaded PC and the PC market siezing where I have built a PC for nothing. So now I am back into the debate if I should go with mac for its popularity in the creative/developement field. So now im worried, I know there are pirates on here who dont care that they are the key of crippling the PC market but I dont know what to do. "But if piracy impacts MAC gaming just as much as PC gaming"=If I am to get a MAC, its not for gaming, its for design, but PC gives me variety into making my computer equal in design and gaming. Is PC gaming dead soon? =[

Mac has games?kemar7856

I REALLY don't think piracy is that big of a deal that it will kill PC gaming, every single person who plays online games will have to have paid for their copy, therefore there is a lot of games that are not fully pirated. Xiloa

[QUOTE="kemar7856"]Mac has games?FingerSub

[QUOTE="Xiloa"]I REALLY don't think piracy is that big of a deal that it will kill PC gaming, every single person who plays online games will have to have paid for their copy, therefore there is a lot of games that are not fully pirated. Gamerkat

What games do you play that only have hundreds of people online..every game I play has tons..to name a few: WC3, SC, CS, Guild Wars, WoW, Warhammer, Call of Duties, Age of Empires, Red Alert 3, TF2, Left 4 Dead etc. I also believe that many have and do buy PC games, and maybe just pirate some. Who knows I just think that pirating should not hinder much of true pc gaming, which is online.

[QUOTE="Gamerkat"][QUOTE="Xiloa"]I REALLY don't think piracy is that big of a deal that it will kill PC gaming, every single person who plays online games will have to have paid for their copy, therefore there is a lot of games that are not fully pirated. Xiloa

What games do you play that only have hundreds of people online..every game I play has tons..to name a few: WC3, SC, CS, Guild Wars, WoW, Warhammer, Call of Duties, Age of Empires, Red Alert 3, TF2, Left 4 Dead etc. I also believe that many have and do buy PC games, and maybe just pirate some. Who knows I just think that pirating should not hinder much of true pc gaming, which is online.

WC3,SC, and CS have have Lan Server that I think are totally legal to run that have thousands playing on them.

My point is people don't always buy the game to play it online.

PC gaming is neither dying nor is it going to die.

I do think Piracy is a huge issue in todays PC Gaming industry. However, I think it's a temorary thing. There has always been piracy and there will always be piracy. Right now it's at an all time high. Games are being copied 5-10 times as often as they are sold. With that said.

- PC gaming has been around for 20+ years. There currently more PC's out there than ever before (estimated to be as much as 1 billion PCs). Possibly as much as 200 million or more PC's that can run a fair number of the newer games. The potential is HUGE. That alone will mean that PC Gaming will not die.

- There are plenty of high profile games in development. While some developers are looking to the consoles while PC sales are low, there's still more PC games being release than games for any other console.. and thats without counting smaller indie games, flash projects, mods and what have you.

- At worst, PC gaming will change, not die. We will probably see more altrnative payment style game (adverticement based, micro transaction based, more and diffrent types of DRM). We'll probably also see more multiplatform releases that are being delayeda month or two after the console releases to prevent piracy from reducing console sales.

However at the end of the day PC gaming will still be around when the x360 and PS3 are mainly used for door stops and bookend.

[QUOTE="Gamerkat"][QUOTE="Xiloa"]I REALLY don't think piracy is that big of a deal that it will kill PC gaming, every single person who plays online games will have to have paid for their copy, therefore there is a lot of games that are not fully pirated. Xiloa

What games do you play that only have hundreds of people online..every game I play has tons..to name a few: WC3, SC, CS, Guild Wars, WoW, Warhammer, Call of Duties, Age of Empires, Red Alert 3, TF2, Left 4 Dead etc. I also believe that many have and do buy PC games, and maybe just pirate some. Who knows I just think that pirating should not hinder much of true pc gaming, which is online.

[QUOTE="Xiloa"]

[QUOTE="Gamerkat"] The issue is that most games never get to be played online by more than a couple hundred people. Those are the games that suffer from piracy. That is about 90% of pc games. There is alot of data that states about 10% of gamers actually buy games on pc. Others pirateGamerkat

What games do you play that only have hundreds of people online..every game I play has tons..to name a few: WC3, SC, CS, Guild Wars, WoW, Warhammer, Call of Duties, Age of Empires, Red Alert 3, TF2, Left 4 Dead etc. I also believe that many have and do buy PC games, and maybe just pirate some. Who knows I just think that pirating should not hinder much of true pc gaming, which is online.

[QUOTE="Gamerkat"][QUOTE="Xiloa"]

What games do you play that only have hundreds of people online..every game I play has tons..to name a few: WC3, SC, CS, Guild Wars, WoW, Warhammer, Call of Duties, Age of Empires, Red Alert 3, TF2, Left 4 Dead etc. I also believe that many have and do buy PC games, and maybe just pirate some. Who knows I just think that pirating should not hinder much of true pc gaming, which is online.

Captain__Tripps

Yes it is dead and I think you should most definitely buy that Mac. You may also buy a "Nintendo DS" - they have this game called Cooking Mama on it. Its no Deus Ex but its close!! Ohhh I uhh must go now sorry. The removalists are here and they're closing down the PC Board as we speak..biggest_loser

lol the pc gaming repo-man lol.

quit your moaning fool and upgrade your pc. spend some money on something you clearly enjoy.its not like pc gaming will die by the time the next MAC comes out (same **** different packaging). Is not like PC gaming will die by the time you set up your new PC. In fact PC gaming wont ever die..its too stubborn. Consumers need to start investing in new technologies for the PC. Its the best way to grow PC gaming. none of this bullcrap "OH CRYSIS DOESN'T RUN ON MY RIVA TNT2! WHAT A HORRIBLE UNOPTIMISED PIECE OF DOO DOO". Get out there and inject money into the PC from all fronts and you'll see a rise in PC Gaming investments.

why settle for a MAC (which has no games of quality and save for the operating systems and design decisions is basically a PC inside) when you can have a fully loaded PC at a lower price, customise the hell out of it and enjoy so many other benefits. If PC gmaing is headed for an end of days then hell id rather blow some cash and spend my days pulveriszing my eyes with the grandest of stages for gaming and enjoy every last beautiful second of its demise.

----but MAC has impressed me on that field.-----

Kamekazi_69

you don't need any reason to justify buying yourself a MAC.

and if you can afford a MAC machine, I don't see how it's difficult to have a mid-range gaming rig with windows at the same time.

moot thread.

there's piracy on the consoles too, sure they can't play online but the piracy is eveywhere.

PC gaming is dead? when PC games wouldn't be sold anymore then it's dead...stop saying "PC gaming is dead" it's annoying

Let me leave a question...

Why do you buy new pcs or upgrades for your existing one?What makes this industry profit?

----but MAC has impressed me on that field.-----

you don't need any reason to justify buying yourself a MAC.

and if you can afford a MAC machine, I don't see how it's difficult to have a mid-range gaming rig with windows at the same time.

moot thread.

Well I like PC alot, and I am planning on buying a new fully upgraded PC with a Cuad and graphics card. I will focus my computer into gaming as much as animation and 3D rendering, but MAC has impressed me on that field. Dont get me wrong, a PC I would feel more safe into getting but after hearing all the rumors about Piracy and PC gaming collapsing has kinda frighten me into getting a PC =[ I am not sure if even buying a fully loaded PC and the PC market siezing where I have built a PC for nothing. So now I am back into the debate if I should go with mac for its popularity in the creative/developement field. So now im worried, I know there are pirates on here who dont care that they are the key of crippling the PC market but I dont know what to do. "But if piracy impacts MAC gaming just as much as PC gaming"=If I am to get a MAC, its not for gaming, its for design, but PC gives me variety into making my computer equal in design and gaming. Is PC gaming dead soon? =[

Kamekazi_69

If I had a nickel everytime someone said pc gaming is dead, I'd have enough money to buy a supercomputer.:roll:

And yes piracy is bad, unfortunately this world will always be filled with bad people, all we can hope is there are more good then bad, and we can minimize the effects of piracy as much as possible.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

Well I like PC alot, and I am planning on buying a new fully upgraded PC with a Cuad and graphics card. I will focus my computer into gaming as much as animation and 3D rendering, but MAC has impressed me on that field. Dont get me wrong, a PC I would feel more safe into getting but after hearing all the rumors about Piracy and PC gaming collapsing has kinda frighten me into getting a PC =[ I am not sure if even buying a fully loaded PC and the PC market siezing where I have built a PC for nothing. So now I am back into the debate if I should go with mac for its popularity in the creative/developement field. So now im worried, I know there are pirates on here who dont care that they are the key of crippling the PC market but I dont know what to do. "But if piracy impacts MAC gaming just as much as PC gaming"=If I am to get a MAC, its not for gaming, its for design, but PC gives me variety into making my computer equal in design and gaming. Is PC gaming dead soon? =[

GPAddict

If I had a nickel everytime someone said pc gaming is dead, I'd have enough money to buy a supercomputer.:roll:

And yes piracy is bad, unfortunately this world will always be filled with bad people, all we can hope is there are more good then bad, and we can minimize the effects of piracy as much as possible.

[QUOTE="GPAddict"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

Well I like PC alot, and I am planning on buying a new fully upgraded PC with a Cuad and graphics card. I will focus my computer into gaming as much as animation and 3D rendering, but MAC has impressed me on that field. Dont get me wrong, a PC I would feel more safe into getting but after hearing all the rumors about Piracy and PC gaming collapsing has kinda frighten me into getting a PC =[ I am not sure if even buying a fully loaded PC and the PC market siezing where I have built a PC for nothing. So now I am back into the debate if I should go with mac for its popularity in the creative/developement field. So now im worried, I know there are pirates on here who dont care that they are the key of crippling the PC market but I dont know what to do. "But if piracy impacts MAC gaming just as much as PC gaming"=If I am to get a MAC, its not for gaming, its for design, but PC gives me variety into making my computer equal in design and gaming. Is PC gaming dead soon? =[

PredatorRules

If I had a nickel everytime someone said pc gaming is dead, I'd have enough money to buy a supercomputer.:roll:

And yes piracy is bad, unfortunately this world will always be filled with bad people, all we can hope is there are more good then bad, and we can minimize the effects of piracy as much as possible.

(but then we are talking about right and wrong, both of which are only views and opinions on how someone, or a group of someones, think something should be.) but their are situations when it comes to music too, where i listen to some music that you cannot find on cd,,, anywhere------ including online.. so i have to download it, but if i find the cd later or they re-release it, i buy the disk.....

not everyone that has pirated anything is bad... and here is a cold hard fact, alot of the people that sit here and complain about people pirating games, are complaining as they are pirating a game, movie or music... so i laugh when i read people talk about how bad piracy is lol... the world is full of hypocrits,, though everyone EVERYONE has contradicted what they have said before........ and will do so again.

It's true that it's kind of hard to NOT pirate in this day and age. With Broadband/ADSL 10mbit + connections. You can often download a movie before you even get dressed to leave and go and buy it from the store (LMFAO).. What I don't like though is that people often come out with crap exscuses for why they pirate. This is what I really dislike as they're not taking responsibility for their actions. At the end of the day if you pirate somethign when you had intentions of buying it then you're hurting the industry. And this is something that should be remembered before you pirate something. If you really had intentions of buying the product then buy it, don't download it.

It's true that it's kind of hard to NOT pirate in this day and age. With Broadband/ADSL 10mbit + connections. You can often download a movie before you even get dressed to leave and go and buy it from the store (LMFAO).. What I don't like though is that people often come out with crap exscuses for why they pirate. This is what I really dislike as they're not taking responsibility for their actions. At the end of the day if you pirate somethign when you had intentions of buying it then you're hurting the industry. And this is something that should be remembered before you pirate something. If you really had intentions of buying the product then buy it, don't download it.

ShimmerMan

well if you read my post, i have pirated music i fully intended to buy, because i could not find it anywhere,(including to purchase it online) no matter how hard i look, so yeah i download it..

but if i come across that cd in a store (re-release) or whatever, online.. i make it a point to buy it because i downloaded it.

2 examples.

1. parasite eve soundtrack.

2. quake 3 (noise) by sonic mayhem.

yeah i downloaded them... but if you look in my cd collection you will see both factory retail copies now... since i could find them to buy.

i prefer it off the disk or a legal download anyway, much better file quality... much better sound quality.

Well I like PC alot, and I am planning on buying a new fully upgraded PC with a Cuad and graphics card. I will focus my computer into gaming as much as animation and 3D rendering, but MAC has impressed me on that field. Dont get me wrong, a PC I would feel more safe into getting but after hearing all the rumors about Piracy and PC gaming collapsing has kinda frighten me into getting a PC =[ I am not sure if even buying a fully loaded PC and the PC market siezing where I have built a PC for nothing. So now I am back into the debate if I should go with mac for its popularity in the creative/developement field. So now im worried, I know there are pirates on here who dont care that they are the key of crippling the PC market but I dont know what to do. "But if piracy impacts MAC gaming just as much as PC gaming"=If I am to get a MAC, its not for gaming, its for design, but PC gives me variety into making my computer equal in design and gaming. Is PC gaming dead soon? =[

If I had a nickel everytime someone said pc gaming is dead, I'd have enough money to buy a supercomputer.:roll:

And yes piracy is bad, unfortunately this world will always be filled with bad people, all we can hope is there are more good then bad, and we can minimize the effects of piracy as much as possible.

[QUOTE="GPAddict"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

Well I like PC alot, and I am planning on buying a new fully upgraded PC with a Cuad and graphics card. I will focus my computer into gaming as much as animation and 3D rendering, but MAC has impressed me on that field. Dont get me wrong, a PC I would feel more safe into getting but after hearing all the rumors about Piracy and PC gaming collapsing has kinda frighten me into getting a PC =[ I am not sure if even buying a fully loaded PC and the PC market siezing where I have built a PC for nothing. So now I am back into the debate if I should go with mac for its popularity in the creative/developement field. So now im worried, I know there are pirates on here who dont care that they are the key of crippling the PC market but I dont know what to do. "But if piracy impacts MAC gaming just as much as PC gaming"=If I am to get a MAC, its not for gaming, its for design, but PC gives me variety into making my computer equal in design and gaming. Is PC gaming dead soon? =[

Kamekazi_69

If I had a nickel everytime someone said pc gaming is dead, I'd have enough money to buy a supercomputer.:roll:

And yes piracy is bad, unfortunately this world will always be filled with bad people, all we can hope is there are more good then bad, and we can minimize the effects of piracy as much as possible.

1998 diablo SV.. oh yeah

Well I like PC alot, and I am planning on buying a new fully upgraded PC with a Cuad and graphics card. I will focus my computer into gaming as much as animation and 3D rendering, but MAC has impressed me on that field. Dont get me wrong, a PC I would feel more safe into getting but after hearing all the rumors about Piracy and PC gaming collapsing has kinda frighten me into getting a PC =[ I am not sure if even buying a fully loaded PC and the PC market siezing where I have built a PC for nothing. So now I am back into the debate if I should go with mac for its popularity in the creative/developement field. So now im worried, I know there are pirates on here who dont care that they are the key of crippling the PC market but I dont know what to do. "But if piracy impacts MAC gaming just as much as PC gaming"=If I am to get a MAC, its not for gaming, its for design, but PC gives me variety into making my computer equal in design and gaming. Is PC gaming dead soon? =[

If I had a nickel everytime someone said pc gaming is dead, I'd have enough money to buy a supercomputer.:roll:

And yes piracy is bad, unfortunately this world will always be filled with bad people, all we can hope is there are more good then bad, and we can minimize the effects of piracy as much as possible.

[QUOTE="PredatorRules"][QUOTE="GPAddict"]

If I had a nickel everytime someone said pc gaming is dead, I'd have enough money to buy a supercomputer.:roll:

And yes piracy is bad, unfortunately this world will always be filled with bad people, all we can hope is there are more good then bad, and we can minimize the effects of piracy as much as possible.

Kamekazi_69

Pc gaming wont die if all the C'ish dev's leave and start to make games for consoles!

It probably go something like this:

Dev's: So guys we have this great idea for a game... Blablabla these advanced stuff and it will be next gen stuff!

Pub: Wow well here you go you have this long time and this much money! Get going!

Dev's: Well ok dear gamers these are the things we will have in the game: *make list of 100 things completly new and never seen before stuff*

Gamer's: Cool!

Pub: Ok so how many copies are you going to sell?

Dev's: Well we are 100% sure 1m!

Pub: $.$

*release day*

*Game sold 50000 first week and people downloaded it, They talked to their friends and said the game is a bugy piece of crap game that is overhyped.*

Pub: So... Why did you not sell?

Dev's: ITS THE PIRATES I TELL YOU! THE PIRATES! NOW WE WILL MOVE TO CONSOLES AND MAKE **** GAMES FOR IT INSTEAD... Umh did i say ****? i meant great!

KalDurenik

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="PredatorRules"] funny, and I disagree with you about saying people who pirate games are bad people, ever thought about countries where games sold at abnormal prices force people to download and pirate games? in other way force them to do bad things but we can't blame them it's like think for a sec prices of food will rise to such level people wouldn't be able to afford them to buy, what will they do? die from hunger? NO! they'll start stealing, sure stealing is bad thing but the prices forced them to do that..PredatorRules

Uhmm... PC Gaming isnt going anywhere, piracy is a big issue, but isnt that big.

as for mac gaming... WHUT? when did that happen?